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The Wages of Sin is Not Death for a Christian

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Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#1 Sep 23, 2012
All mankind is condemned by Adam's sin

All mankind has a sinful nature, is in a sinful state

18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. 19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous. Rom 5

The wages of sin is death Rom 6:23

Sin is trangression of the law

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness 1 Jn 3:4

WHOEVER SINS HAS NEITHER SEEN JESUS WHO WAS MANIFESTED TO TAKE MANS SINS AWAY, NOR KNOWS JESUS 1Jn 3:5,6

IN JESUS THERE IS NO SIN

Thus all mankind is doomed to death without Jesus

But the second part of Rom 6:23 is a part most all of you do not mention,

23 For the wages of sin is death,
second part
( but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.)

Those who accept Christ Jesus receive the Gift of eternal life
and receive the Holy Spirit as a guarantee.

They are set free from sin Rom 6:22 They are set free from
a law that convicts them as a sinner to death Rom 8:1,2

A Christ follower(Christian) shall never be condemned and has passed from death to life. Jn 3:18 Jn 5;24 (placed into a state of life with Christ in Him Gal 2;20)

Whoever has been born of God does not sin 1 Jn 3:9
He can not sin (a sin unto death), for God is in Him, and he cannot sin.

Conclusion;

The wages of sin is death for all mankind who does not accept Jesus Christ as their Savior Jn 3;16 Jn 5:24 they are condemned to death.

Whoever accepts Jesus Christ is not subject to the law which
declares sin to be a wage of death.

The wages of sin for a Christian is not death.

Christian who continues to sin while having a liberty from the old
law Gal 5:1,13 will be chastin by the Lord Heb 12:7 and if they continue to disobey, even removed from earth prematurely 1 Cor 30-32

but the wages of sin for a Christian is not death

the wages of sin is death for the unGodly
DANNO

London, UK

#2 Sep 23, 2012
Shadrach

Why wont you tell the readers that you REFUSE to say LORDS PRAYER more than 2 times this year?

And not even 3 times last year?

Why wont you tell the readers the TRUE REASON why you dont like saying the LORDS PRAYER?

Dan
birdman

Arthur, IL

#3 Sep 23, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
All mankind is condemned by Adam's sin
All mankind has a sinful nature, is in a sinful state
18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. 19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous. Rom 5
The wages of sin is death Rom 6:23
Sin is trangression of the law
Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness 1 Jn 3:4
WHOEVER SINS HAS NEITHER SEEN JESUS WHO WAS MANIFESTED TO TAKE MANS SINS AWAY, NOR KNOWS JESUS 1Jn 3:5,6
IN JESUS THERE IS NO SIN
Thus all mankind is doomed to death without Jesus
But the second part of Rom 6:23 is a part most all of you do not mention,
23 For the wages of sin is death,
second part
( but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.)
Those who accept Christ Jesus receive the Gift of eternal life
and receive the Holy Spirit as a guarantee.
They are set free from sin Rom 6:22 They are set free from
a law that convicts them as a sinner to death Rom 8:1,2
A Christ follower(Christian) shall never be condemned and has passed from death to life. Jn 3:18 Jn 5;24 (placed into a state of life with Christ in Him Gal 2;20)
Whoever has been born of God does not sin 1 Jn 3:9
He can not sin (a sin unto death), for God is in Him, and he cannot sin.
Conclusion;
The wages of sin is death for all mankind who does not accept Jesus Christ as their Savior Jn 3;16 Jn 5:24 they are condemned to death.
Whoever accepts Jesus Christ is not subject to the law which
declares sin to be a wage of death.
The wages of sin for a Christian is not death.
Christian who continues to sin while having a liberty from the old
law Gal 5:1,13 will be chastin by the Lord Heb 12:7 and if they continue to disobey, even removed from earth prematurely 1 Cor 30-32
but the wages of sin for a Christian is not death
the wages of sin is death for the unGodly
SHADRACH TWISTING AGAIN!!
SHADRACH DENIES GOD!
SHADRACH DENIES GOD'S DAY!
SHADRACH SAYS DONT OBEY GOD AND HIS LAW
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#4 Sep 23, 2012
The Law of Liberty are the Sayings, Teachings, Words, and Commands of Jesus Matt 7:25 Jn 15:14

24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”

WHAT DID JESUS SAY?

28 And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings,

that the people were astonished at His teaching,

DO YOU PEOPLE TEACH AND FOLLOW THE SAYINGS AND TEACHINGS AND COMMANDMENTS OF JESUS

DO YOU KNOW THEM
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#5 Sep 23, 2012
The people only knew the law of Moses

the Ten C's and asociated rituals, feasts,

which are all written in THEIR Book of the Law of Moses, their Covenant

they were astonished
birdman

Arthur, IL

#6 Sep 23, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
The Law of Liberty are the Sayings, Teachings, Words, and Commands of Jesus Matt 7:25 Jn 15:14
24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.
26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”
WHAT DID JESUS SAY?
28 And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings,
that the people were astonished at His teaching,
DO YOU PEOPLE TEACH AND FOLLOW THE SAYINGS AND TEACHINGS AND COMMANDMENTS OF JESUS
DO YOU KNOW THEM
SHADRACH IS A FALSE TEACHER

Since: Sep 12

Clarkston, Wa.

#7 Sep 23, 2012
Shad, what was in the ark Gods laws or moses's law?, or better yet did God use his finger to write His own laws or the laws of man think about it my friend if Gods law was good then why would he have a need to CHANGE it , and when did it change not even Jesus can change God for if you have seen me then you have seen the Father, or he would have told us that it did change right so stop twisting the bible and saying that every one els is twisting it man come on stop it , just stop it
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#8 Sep 23, 2012
2all wrote:
Shad, what was in the ark Gods laws or moses's law?, or better yet did God use his finger to write His own laws or the laws of man think about it my friend if Gods law was good then why would he have a need to CHANGE it , and when did it change not even Jesus can change God for if you have seen me then you have seen the Father, or he would have told us that it did change right so stop twisting the bible and saying that every one els is twisting it man come on stop it , just stop it
The Ten C's a Covenant with Israel Deut 4:13 and old covenant, it was in the ark placed below the Mercy Seat,,,which is the New Covenant, it take prescedence over the old covenant

by Jesus shed blood, is the only way can go to the Father

This means

The wages of sin is not death for those who accept Christ as their Savior.....the Mercey Seat
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#9 Sep 23, 2012
This also why God declares Jesus died in vain for those who stay under the Ten C's Gal 2:21

cursed are those who do this
DANNO

London, UK

#10 Sep 23, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
This also why God declares Jesus died in vain for those who stay under the Ten C's Gal 2:21
cursed are those who do this
All these quotes below CONDEMN you!

ROM 2: 13 & ROM 7: 12 & 1st John 2: 7 & 1st John 3: 4 & John 9: 31 & REV 14: 12 & REV 12: 17 & Psalms 119: 142 & JAMES 2: 10

REPENT REPENT! and say the LORDS PRAYER!

Dan
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#11 Sep 23, 2012
My witness to the Biblical Fact

that the wages of sin is not death to a Christian,

is in the New Covenant.

The New Testament is my witness.

We will hear all kinds of nutcases make their ugly remarks without any substance and lie like the dickens..showing their fruit, and who they represent,

but no one will be able to present God condemning a Christian

it is EXTREMELY antiscriptual

and antiChrist...

For God so Loved the World He gave His only begotten Son to save us from our sinful nature.
birdman

Arthur, IL

#12 Sep 23, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
My witness to the Biblical Fact
that the wages of sin is not death to a Christian,
is in the New Covenant.
The New Testament is my witness.
We will hear all kinds of nutcases make their ugly remarks without any substance and lie like the dickens..showing their fruit, and who they represent,
but no one will be able to present God condemning a Christian
it is EXTREMELY antiscriptual
and antiChrist...
For God so Loved the World He gave His only begotten Son to save us from our sinful nature.
Christ did not die for your willful denial
Diane

San Diego, CA

#14 Sep 23, 2012
birdman wrote:
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Christ did not die for your willful denial
All sin is willful. God does not let you get away with willful sins by the way. He wants His kids to do right. Will your own father disown you if you go against his wishes ? No, but you will get spanked.

Since: Aug 08

Christchurch New Zealand

#15 Sep 23, 2012
birdman wrote:
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Christ did not die for your willful denial
You amaze me.
birdman

Arthur, IL

#16 Sep 24, 2012
robert two wrote:
<quoted text>
You amaze me.
Why? do you not read your Bible?
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#17 Sep 24, 2012
birdman wrote:
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Christ did not die for your willful denial
This discussion does not indicate the lie you are trying to create to discredit it...you were taught this technique, the art of negating the truth

This discussion, reveals man is in a sinful state based on Adams initial sin, and the teaching that all sin leads to death

"the wages of sin is death"

thus whoever accepts Christ as their Savior has passed from death(the wage of being in a sinful state, to life in Christ, and shall NEVER EVER be CONDEMNED

Jn 3:18 Jn 5:24

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

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24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

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thus the wage of sin is not death for a Christian, impossible,

and to clearly reveal your deception THAT YOU CREATED,

I presented the fact, God does not allow willful sin of a Christian

but you said I did, like ALWAYS bearing false witness of others,

an evil practice of yours

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You are a chronic liar birdman and need to apologize and repent
birdman

Arthur, IL

#18 Sep 24, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
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This discussion does not indicate the lie you are trying to create to discredit it...you were taught this technique, the art of negating the truth
This discussion, reveals man is in a sinful state based on Adams initial sin, and the teaching that all sin leads to death
"the wages of sin is death"
thus whoever accepts Christ as their Savior has passed from death(the wage of being in a sinful state, to life in Christ, and shall NEVER EVER be CONDEMNED
Jn 3:18 Jn 5:24
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
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24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
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thus the wage of sin is not death for a Christian, impossible,
and to clearly reveal your deception THAT YOU CREATED,
I presented the fact, God does not allow willful sin of a Christian
but you said I did, like ALWAYS bearing false witness of others,
an evil practice of yours
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You are a chronic liar birdman and need to apologize and repent
INCORRECT, the only liar in this post is you SHADRACH with your twisting of God's Word and the denial of it.

Most everyone on here knows you are a Liar when it comes to god's Word.

the only ones who dont see is those who also reject the Word of God.
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#19 Sep 24, 2012
birdman wrote:
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INCORRECT, the only liar in this post is you SHADRACH with your twisting of God's Word and the denial of it.
Most everyone on here knows you are a Liar when it comes to god's Word.
the only ones who dont see is those who also reject the Word of God.
Provide the evidence of me, teaching God allows willful sin.

You are a chronic liar

You have been labeled unstable for quite some time

Here is more proof.

Where did I teach...God allows willful sin?

present it

or leave the forum, you need help,
DANNO

London, UK

#20 Sep 24, 2012
Shadrach

Why do you believe the Christian DOES NOT NEED to REPENT when he SINS?

Dan
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#21 Sep 24, 2012
DANNO wrote:
Shadrach
Why do you believe the Christian DOES NOT NEED to REPENT when he SINS?
Dan
You are a chronic liar

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