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Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#429 Sep 5, 2012
Mr_Know it all wrote:
<quoted text>
Crazy (Southern) Baptist,
You received no response from Pastor Nalson for this was muchado about nothing. I myself rarely respond to outright foolishness.
Though you're the 1st poster on this forum to bring this "out of context" statement to this forum probably taken from an off-shoot SDA website.
I couldnt help but notice how you failed to acknowledged that earlier this year RICK WARREN pastor of one the LARGEST churches in the Southern Baptist Convention and the Country stated that IN ARABIAN God is indeed called Allah.
There are other evangelical groups that also recognizes this fact www.christiananswers.net/g-eden/allah.html
I do wonder what do you think of Paul's evangelist effort to the agnostic people of Athen when he equated the altar that beared the description "TO THE UNKNOWN GOD" as being the one and the same that we serve? Acts 17:22-25.
Using yours logic as you have done with Nelson statement I'm surprise that you or others haven't yet claimed that Paul was teaching unbelievers and Christians to bow to idols and that a graven image could be make of God.
In conclusion here the facts:
Arab Christians STILL refer to God as Allah in Arabian. The difference which you and others fail to see because of your bigotry to all things Moslem is the Arab Christian's understanding of God's true character, nature and purpose in our lives.
I really curious to know if the Southern Baptist church is actively pursuiting Moslems for Christ especially in Arabian lands.
KIA says: You received no response from Pastor Nalson for this was muchado about nothing.

CB replies: False Teacher Nelson didn't reply to me because he already said in his he was not going to.

CB replies: False teacher nelson didn't reply to me because he has no fear of the Almighty or of His first commandment.

KIA says: You received no response from Pastor Nalson for this was muchado about nothing. I myself rarely respond to outright foolishness.

CB replies: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is foolishness to those who are perishing. False teacher Nelson didn't reply to me because he has no respect for this command: 1 Peter 3:15 .......Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,

KIA says: Though you're the 1st poster on this forum to bring this "out of context" statement to this forum....

CB replies: Shows what you know - I was not the first.

KIA says: "out of context" statement to this forum probably taken from an off-shoot SDA website.

CB replies: You imply that we are all too dumb to understand what we all HEARD the man say with his own mouth.

1) It was off of a you tube video.
2) He said what he said and what he said was not taken out of context.

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend (OR YOUR PASTOR) secretly entices you, saying,“Let us go and worship other gods”(gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.

The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.

NOT the gods that neither you nor your fathers have known.

CB

Since: Aug 10

Pacific Northwest USA

#430 Sep 5, 2012
martinezjosei wrote:
Liberal democrats voted to keep the word "God" and "Jerusalem" from the Democratic Convention platform!!!
I will not be surprised if Danno, DJCon, Rockroller, Denis, Gerhard, et al are democRATS !!!
I bet Chris is not, she must be a Christian loving Republican.
There is some CONNECTION between those that hate the Jews of Jerusalem with those that hate the word GOD" but love the word ALLAH !!!
and the "connection" is ...
SATAN !!!!
" and he will deceive even the elect--if that were possible." Matthews 24:24
" and he will deceive even Rockroller, DANNO, DJCon, and et al--if that were possible." Matthews 24:24
Danno and Gerhard are not Americans, so are neither Democrat nor Republican.

Since: Jan 11

Jackson, TN

#431 Sep 6, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
<quoted text>
CB replies: False Teacher Nelson didn't reply to me because he already said in his he was not going to.
CB replies: False teacher nelson didn't reply to me because he has no fear of the Almighty or of His first commandment.
CB replies: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is foolishness to those who are perishing. False teacher Nelson didn't reply to me because he has no respect for this command: 1 Peter 3:15 .......Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,
CB replies: Shows what you know - I was not the first.
CB replies: You imply that we are all too dumb to understand what we all HEARD the man say with his own mouth.
1) It was off of a you tube video.
2) He said what he said and what he said was not taken out of context.
NOT the gods that neither you nor your fathers have known.
CB
Crazy Baptist,

As usually I see you're still rather take issue with minors than majors.

Readers take note how Crazy Baptist totally attempt to ignore the embarassing fact that one from his own affilliated Southern Baptist church most influential pastors RICK WARREN even acknowledges that Allah in Arabic is the name for God.

Notice how Crazy B avoided answering how Paul could use the analogy of the altar/stature adressed "to the UNKNOWN GOD" in demonstrating to the Athen people that this was indeed the same God that he and they worship yet NOT be false accused of teaching heresy. Acts 17:18-25

The Athen's people indeed believe in a higher power but their understanding of God were distorted. Notice how Crazy B couldn't provide any facts about what his S.B church have done to actively witness to Moslems. Unfortunately the awful truth of the matter is that the false prophet Pat Robertson and Jim Hagee a self proclaimed Christian Zionist (and past admitted adulterer) have poison the Southern Baptist thinking about the truth what Moslems actually believes.

CB I highly suggest you get yourself educated about what Islam ACTUALLY teaches before you ever make any attempts to witness to them, any attempt by you or any naive others to equate their belief of God to being associated with a moon god will only bring you to serverely insulting their intelligence.

BTW couldn't help but notice I find it extremely ODD that you of all persons would dare quote 1 Peter 3:15 to me in reference to Pastor Nelson when I have "planted" that text on you numerous of time in order to get you to defend or answer any questions concerning "your particular version" of the Pre-Tri rapture teachings.

To this day you're STILL not competent to respond to mine inquiries.

Why use a text that says "be always ready to give an answer for your belief" when you're one of it's biggest offenders of this counsel?
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#432 Sep 6, 2012
Mr_Know it all wrote:
<quoted text>
Crazy Baptist,
As usually I see you're still rather take issue with minors than majors.
Readers take note how Crazy Baptist totally attempt to ignore the embarassing fact that one from his own affilliated Southern Baptist church most influential pastors RICK WARREN even acknowledges that Allah in Arabic is the name for God.
Notice how Crazy B avoided answering how Paul could use the analogy of the altar/stature adressed "to the UNKNOWN GOD" in demonstrating to the Athen people that this was indeed the same God that he and they worship yet NOT be false accused of teaching heresy. Acts 17:18-25
The Athen's people indeed believe in a higher power but their understanding of God were distorted. Notice how Crazy B couldn't provide any facts about what his S.B church have done to actively witness to Moslems. Unfortunately the awful truth of the matter is that the false prophet Pat Robertson and Jim Hagee a self proclaimed Christian Zionist (and past admitted adulterer) have poison the Southern Baptist thinking about the truth what Moslems actually believes.
CB I highly suggest you get yourself educated about what Islam ACTUALLY teaches before you ever make any attempts to witness to them, any attempt by you or any naive others to equate their belief of God to being associated with a moon god will only bring you to serverely insulting their intelligence.
BTW couldn't help but notice I find it extremely ODD that you of all persons would dare quote 1 Peter 3:15 to me in reference to Pastor Nelson when I have "planted" that text on you numerous of time in order to get you to defend or answer any questions concerning "your particular version" of the Pre-Tri rapture teachings.
To this day you're STILL not competent to respond to mine inquiries.
Why use a text that says "be always ready to give an answer for your belief" when you're one of it's biggest offenders of this counsel?
Bow down to your moon god dude. I won't judge you.

Who knows, maybe moon god allah will send his son Jesus to die for your sins.

Oh.........

That's right.........

moon god allah does not have a son named Jesus.

Guess you and false teacher nelson are SOL.

CB

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#433 Sep 6, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
<quoted text>Bow down to your moon god dude. I won't judge you.

Who knows, maybe moon god allah will send his son Jesus to die for your sins.

Oh.........

That's right.........

moon god allah does not have a son named Jesus.

Guess you and false teacher nelson are SOL.

CB
That was great !!!

Since: Aug 08

Christchurch New Zealand

#434 Sep 6, 2012
GrammyJoanne wrote:
<quoted text>What makes you feel that Eve disobeyed her marriage vows and put them "asunder?"
Joanne.
You really answered your own question.
EVE ate the fruit and therefore was no longer clothed in light.
This perplexed ADAM as now he had not sinned and they were divided.
To stay with EVE ADAM quickly sinned.
Marriage is based on comunication COME LET US REASON TOGETHER and this had not happened. These are well known facts.
Like the SABBATH marriage was created as part of this world.
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#435 Sep 6, 2012
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
That was great !!!
You are a complete moron!

John 8:44

"Ye (GOD-FORSAKEN JEWS) are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#436 Sep 6, 2012
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
That was great !!!
The illiterate hillbilly KIA needs a healthy does of the unadulterated truth.

Did you notice he never replied?

I imagine it's damned hard to reconcile how Nelson is right and allah is our God yet has no son named Jesus.

CB
Earthcaller

Indialantic, FL

#437 Sep 7, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
<quoted text>
The illiterate hillbilly KIA needs a healthy does of the unadulterated truth.
Did you notice he never replied?
I imagine it's damned hard to reconcile how Nelson is right and allah is our God yet has no son named Jesus.
CB
You should look into Rick Warren, he is also ecumenical.

Since: Nov 11

United States

#438 Sep 7, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
<quoted text>You are a complete moron!

John 8:44

"Ye (GOD-FORSAKEN JEWS) are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
Hey Dude!!! Jesus was talking to those specific Jews back them!!!

You keep confusing the past with the present and the future !!!

Read the verse before it !!!

To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." (John 8:31, 32 NIV)

Since: Nov 11

United States

#439 Sep 7, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
<quoted text>The illiterate hillbilly KIA needs a healthy does of the unadulterated truth.

Did you notice he never replied?

I imagine it's damned hard to reconcile how Nelson is right and allah is our God yet has no son named Jesus.

CB
"yet has no son named Jesus." !!!

BINGO!!!

That is the ROOT of all the problem with the Allah of Islam,

Actually,

It is the ONLY spiritual problem!!

While Islam is as bad as a mafia cartel and has a history of tears, death and destruction they can not kill the soul only the body!!!

But teaching that Jesus is NOT the son of God is a different gospel, is the satanic gospel.

Notice that Mexican mafia does not preaches that, neither the Italian mafia nor the Russian mafia gangsters teaches that !!!

No large evil organization teaches that!!!

Even the Catholic have NO PROBLEM confessing and repeating the Testimony of Jesus!!!

What is the Testimony of Jesus?

The Spirit of the Prophecy in the book of Revelation! Rev 19:10

But then..,

What is the Spirit of the Prophecy of Revelation? The Spirit of the Prophecy book?

The testimony of Jesus!!!

But what is the " Testimony of Jesus", which is also the "Spirit of THE Prophecy book"?

...for this is the witness [marturia] of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness [marturia] in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record [marturia] that God gave of his Son. And this is the record [marturia], that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 1 John 5:9-11

THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD !!!
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#440 Sep 7, 2012
The problem with Marto's response is that the Triune Trinity brings with it its own load of heresy.

Marto has not yet grasped [same as the Brampton Ffarter] the Triune Trinity presents the same predicament.

Otherwise the amn with the pointy hat in NOSTRA AETATE could nbot say the god of the Friday Mob was the same as theirs.

Of course the SDAs accepted this in 1980 in their 27FBs and the SHowpony from Andrews is leading the way

Since: Jan 11

Jackson, TN

#441 Sep 7, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
<quoted text>
The illiterate hillbilly KIA needs a healthy does of the unadulterated truth.
Did you notice he never replied?
I imagine it's damned hard to reconcile how Nelson is right and allah is our God yet has no son named Jesus.
CB
Is insults all you have?

Crazy Baptist true character always reveals itself under pressure. You have shown yours on many occasions, such as this and the picture is not too pretty.

Allow me to use your shallow reasoning skills against you.

Since you seem to believe that ALL Moslem worship the Moon god then it is indeed rational for those of us who are Sabbath-keepers to consider ALL those who worship on Sunday, worship the "Sun god" instead of worship on Sunday since Christ was resurrected from the grave as Sunday worshippers have often long claimed.

You do know the PAGAN origins of Sunday worship?

Here is what the Koran actually states concerning any worship of any alleged sun god in 41:37

"Among his signs are the Night and Day and the Sun and Moon, propstrate not to the Sun nor Moon but prostrate to Allah, who created them, it is him ye wish to serve."

This Islamic text plainly reveals that Moslem worshipped the Creator God who made all things.

Were you not aware that there are several respected bible translators such as Wycliffe Bible Translations, Summer Institute of Linguistics, Frontiers that are now or going to be replacing the word Allah in place of God the Father in an effort to reach the Moslem community. These translators understand that in the Arabic word for God is Allah. The bible paraphrase "The Message" have already done so.

Rick Warren who is part of your great Southern Baptist faith have only confirmed the obvious.


Since: Aug 10

Pacific Northwest USA

#442 Sep 7, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
The problem with Marto's response is that the Triune Trinity brings with it its own load of heresy.
Marto has not yet grasped [same as the Brampton Ffarter] the Triune Trinity presents the same predicament.
Otherwise the amn with the pointy hat in NOSTRA AETATE could nbot say the god of the Friday Mob was the same as theirs.
Of course the SDAs accepted this in 1980 in their 27FBs and the SHowpony from Andrews is leading the way
Anyone who pretends to understand and fully comprehend the godhead (the Trinity, or whatever you choose to call it), is fooling him/herself! It is not meant to be understood by the finite mind of humans!!! But no worries - We'll understand it when we sit at His feet.
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#443 Sep 7, 2012
Mr_Know it all wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know the PAGAN origins of Sunday worship?
Here is what the Koran actually states concerning any worship of any alleged sun god in 41:37
"Among his signs are the Night and Day and the Sun and Moon, propstrate not to the Sun nor Moon but prostrate to Allah, who created them, it is him ye wish to serve."

This Islamic text plainly reveals that Moslem
worshipped the Creator God who made all things.

Were you not aware that there are several respected bible translators such as Wycliffe Bible Translations, Summer Institute of Linguistics, Frontiers that are now or going to be replacing the word Allah in place of God the Father in an effort to reach the Moslem community. These translators understand that in the Arabic word for God is Allah. The bible paraphrase "The Message" have already done so.
The ecumenism abounds - the apologies for those who worship on Friday - it never ends and its all being sponsored by SDAs
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#444 Sep 7, 2012
GrammyJoanne wrote:
<quoted text>Anyone who pretends to understand and fully comprehend the godhead (the Trinity, or whatever you choose to call it), is fooling him/herself! It is not meant to be understood by the finite mind of humans!!! But no worries - We'll understand it when we sit at His feet.
When one pontificates like Joanna here, one knows they do not know thier Bible and how the Incarnation impacted on teh Godhead.

Next time - explain the Triune Trinity and do it with Bible. The readers know you cannot. God warns about false worship in Rev 14 and all throughout the Bible - Joanna forgotten what the Scriptures state about God and false worship having already ascented and bowed to the image of the beast, the central doctrine of the LH.

Unfortunately for the ongoing genre of ignorance being displayed by Joanna - poor Joanna prefers to keep the Laodicean intent alive all despite the assurance of what Jesus said in JOHN 16:13

Since: Aug 10

Pacific Northwest USA

#445 Sep 7, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
When one pontificates like Joanna here, one knows they do not know thier Bible and how the Incarnation impacted on teh Godhead.
Next time - explain the Triune Trinity and do it with Bible. The readers know you cannot. God warns about false worship in Rev 14 and all throughout the Bible - Joanna forgotten what the Scriptures state about God and false worship having already ascented and bowed to the image of the beast, the central doctrine of the LH.
Unfortunately for the ongoing genre of ignorance being displayed by Joanna - poor Joanna prefers to keep the Laodicean intent alive all despite the assurance of what Jesus said in JOHN 16:13
Blah, blah, blah... Thank you for demonstrating what I had posted!
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#446 Sep 7, 2012
GrammyJoanne wrote:
<quoted text>Blah, blah, blah... Thank you for demonstrating what I had posted!
More of the bigotted mindset: Joanna unable to recognise the Scriptures; but thats what happens when you lunge from caldron of Laodicea into the Evangelical heretical fire.

What Joanna will not do, and has not done, is prove the Triune Trinity from the Scriptures; the readers can expect just the usual nosey know nothing unhelpful attitude. Poor Joanna is blinded by the mesmerising lerv doctrine to unify the Friday mob
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#447 Sep 7, 2012
Mr_Know it all wrote:
<quoted text>
Is insults all you have?
Crazy Baptist true character always reveals itself under pressure. You have shown yours on many occasions, such as this and the picture is not too pretty.
Allow me to use your shallow reasoning skills against you.
Since you seem to believe that ALL Moslem worship the Moon god then it is indeed rational for those of us who are Sabbath-keepers to consider ALL those who worship on Sunday, worship the "Sun god" instead of worship on Sunday since Christ was resurrected from the grave as Sunday worshippers have often long claimed.
You do know the PAGAN origins of Sunday worship?
Here is what the Koran actually states concerning any worship of any alleged sun god in 41:37
"Among his signs are the Night and Day and the Sun and Moon, propstrate not to the Sun nor Moon but prostrate to Allah, who created them, it is him ye wish to serve."
This Islamic text plainly reveals that Moslem worshipped the Creator God who made all things.
Were you not aware that there are several respected bible translators such as Wycliffe Bible Translations, Summer Institute of Linguistics, Frontiers that are now or going to be replacing the word Allah in place of God the Father in an effort to reach the Moslem community. These translators understand that in the Arabic word for God is Allah. The bible paraphrase "The Message" have already done so.
Rick Warren who is part of your great Southern Baptist faith have only confirmed the obvious.
You and EC are wrong......moreover, you are both in cults for this very reason, you NEVER tested the source that was feeding you.
All of those who follow the commandments of Christ written in the NT know to TEST the source, investigate.

But you two, make your ugly remarks, and without reservation bear false witness of another, including CB.

You owe Rick Waren and CB and apology.

Will you ask their forgiveness........NO

For you have no regard for the commandments of Christ

READ THIS

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Comment: To whom it may concern:

Hello. My name is Johnny Montgomery. I work for Pastor Rick Warren at Saddleback Church. It has come to our attention that you have posted the article,“Rick Warren and Allah,” in response to Pastor Rick’s involvement with the Muslim community and the recent article reported in Orange County Register.

As you may know, Pastor Rick has strongly opposed the idea that he is attempting to merge Christianity and Islam. An interview with the Christian Post was recently posted in which Pastor Rick answered many questions on the same topic. We ask that you, at the very least, post the interview in full on your website. The link for the interview, as posted on Saddleback’s website, is http://saddleback.com/blogs/newsandviews/news –views-030212/.

Saddleback Church grants you full permission to post the interview in full. We hope and pray that you would allow Pastor Rick and Saddleback Church to depend our integrity.

God Bless.

Time: Monday March 5, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#448 Sep 7, 2012
GrammyJoanne wrote:
<quoted text>Blah, blah, blah... Thank you for demonstrating what I had posted!
Go back to sleep and remain the bigotted
ex SDA, evangelical & dumbed down.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d...

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