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JParker

Mesquite, NV

#1 Dec 17, 2012
How can you tell the difference between a child of God and a child of the devil?
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#2 Dec 17, 2012
JParker wrote:
How can you tell the difference between a child of God and a child of the devil?
Easy! Test them as John told you to do! The test IF they teach MORE than what Jesus said and taught and given to us by His eyewitnesses Matthew and John--stay the heck away from them! Paul, LUke, EGW and many others teach much more than what Jesus said and taught! Have nothing to do with them--as John warned in 2nd John 8-11.
Isaiah

Denver, CO

#3 Dec 17, 2012
Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word,[it is] because [there is] no light in them. Isaiah 8:16; 20
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#4 Dec 17, 2012
Isaiah wrote:
Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word,[it is] because [there is] no light in them. Isaiah 8:16; 20
Thanks Isaiah, as Jesus verified there are two conditions for salvation--keeping the whole covenant (ten commandments) and holding fast to the words (testimony) of Jesus! Rev. 12:17.
JParker

Mesquite, NV

#5 Dec 17, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> Easy! Test them as John told you to do! The test IF they teach MORE than what Jesus said and taught and given to us by His eyewitnesses Matthew and John--stay the heck away from them! Paul, LUke, EGW and many others teach much more than what Jesus said and taught! Have nothing to do with them--as John warned in 2nd John 8-11.
Will a child of God lie to you?
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#6 Dec 17, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> Easy! Test them as John told you to do! The test IF they teach MORE than what Jesus said and taught and given to us by His eyewitnesses Matthew and John--stay the heck away from them! Paul, LUke, EGW and many others teach much more than what Jesus said and taught! Have nothing to do with them--as John warned in 2nd John 8-11.
Good grief. Is it so hard just to quote accurately what the bible actually says?

1 John 3:10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.

Nothing about eyewitnesses. Nothing about false prophets.

JUST:

IF YOU DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND LOVE YOUR BROTHER = CHILD OF GOD

IF YOU DO NOT DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND DO NOT LOVE YOUR BROTHER = NOT

CB
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#7 Dec 17, 2012
JParker wrote:
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Will a child of God lie to you?
Nope.

Why you ask; A child of God knows his father's words.

Our Father has said through Jesus "But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken".

CB
George Bush

Bolton, Canada

#8 Dec 17, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
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Good grief. Is it so hard just to quote accurately what the bible actually says?
1 John 3:10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.
Nothing about eyewitnesses. Nothing about false prophets.
JUST:
IF YOU DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND LOVE YOUR BROTHER = CHILD OF GOD
IF YOU DO NOT DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND DO NOT LOVE YOUR BROTHER = NOT
CB
How do you know what is right?
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#9 Dec 17, 2012
JParker wrote:
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Will a child of God lie to you?
A child of god will as we can verify from the words of EGW, Joseph Smith and all others who never met Jesus in person while He was here.

Please identify ONE Child of God and I will put them to the test John talked about in 1st John and 2nd John!

I am a bondservant for Jesus Christ and not yet a family member of the "God Family".
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#10 Dec 17, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
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Good grief. Is it so hard just to quote accurately what the bible actually says?
1 John 3:10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.
Nothing about eyewitnesses. Nothing about false prophets.
JUST:
IF YOU DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND LOVE YOUR BROTHER = CHILD OF GOD
IF YOU DO NOT DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND DO NOT LOVE YOUR BROTHER = NOT
CB
Oh oh, you are acting like one of those stupid people again--that's a no no! Read ALL oF 1st John and 2nd John! One born of God will NEVER sin again! One teaching beyond what Jesus taught is of Satan and have nothing to do with them!

How do you know what is right without the covenant CB? Huh? Even the Talaban love each other! Duh!
JParker

Mesquite, NV

#11 Dec 17, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> A child of god will as we can verify from the words of EGW, Joseph Smith and all others who never met Jesus in person while He was here.
Please identify ONE Child of God and I will put them to the test John talked about in 1st John and 2nd John!
I am a bondservant for Jesus Christ and not yet a family member of the "God Family".
How did you become a bond-servant for Jesus Christ?
George Bush

Bolton, Canada

#12 Dec 17, 2012
JParker wrote:
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How did you become a bond-servant for Jesus Christ?
According to RR and the two D's, you become a bond servant of the devil by burning half the bible. They passed the initiation exam already with flying colors.
JParker

Mesquite, NV

#13 Dec 17, 2012
George Bush wrote:
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According to RR and the two D's, you become a bond servant of the devil by burning half the bible. They passed the initiation exam already with flying colors.
How can you tell the difference between a child of God and a child of the devil?
Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#14 Dec 17, 2012
George Bush wrote:
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According to RR and the two D's, you become a bond servant of the devil by burning half the bible. They passed the initiation exam already with flying colors.
You become a 'bondservant' of Jesus Christ when you recognize that you cannot pay the penalty for your own sin without dying the second death, and that you need the perfect Passover Lamb to pay that penalty for you so you do not have to die that second death yourself. This is easy enough to SAY. What is difficult is doing the TWO things that Jesus, who is the Passover Lamb, requires of His Bondservants, that PROVES that they love Him:

"... those that keep the Commandments of God, and hold to the testimony of Jesus." Rev. 12:17.

If you believe and DO anything other than this you are a servant of the devil. The testimony of Jesus is HIS words and HIS teachings, which are iterated ONLY by His own eyewitness disciples, and NOT ANYONE ELSE, including Paul, Luke, and other writers in the New Testament who were not disciples chosen for Jesus by the Father. Whether they know it or not those that equate the words of these OTHER people equally to the words of Jesus as He gave them to His own eyewitness disciples are the ones that worship the 'Beast' and will eventually take his mark.

Sorry to be so blunt, but that IS the way it IS.
JParker

Mesquite, NV

#15 Dec 17, 2012
Dennis wrote:
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You become a 'bondservant' of Jesus Christ when you recognize that you cannot pay the penalty for your own sin without dying the second death, and that you need the perfect Passover Lamb to pay that penalty for you so you do not have to die that second death yourself. This is easy enough to SAY. What is difficult is doing the TWO things that Jesus, who is the Passover Lamb, requires of His Bondservants, that PROVES that they love Him:
"... those that keep the Commandments of God, and hold to the testimony of Jesus." Rev. 12:17.
If you believe and DO anything other than this you are a servant of the devil. The testimony of Jesus is HIS words and HIS teachings, which are iterated ONLY by His own eyewitness disciples, and NOT ANYONE ELSE, including Paul, Luke, and other writers in the New Testament who were not disciples chosen for Jesus by the Father. Whether they know it or not those that equate the words of these OTHER people equally to the words of Jesus as He gave them to His own eyewitness disciples are the ones that worship the 'Beast' and will eventually take his mark.
Sorry to be so blunt, but that IS the way it IS.
How much would you say you love Jesus?

1. All your heart.

2. All your mind.

3. All your soul.

4. None of the above.
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#16 Dec 17, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> Oh oh, you are acting like one of those stupid people again--that's a no no! Read ALL oF 1st John and 2nd John! One born of God will NEVER sin again! One teaching beyond what Jesus taught is of Satan and have nothing to do with them!
How do you know what is right without the covenant CB? Huh? Even the Talaban love each other! Duh!
You can mock the words of God - I will not.

CB
JParker

Mesquite, NV

#17 Dec 17, 2012
Matthew, Chapter 5, 9: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

I found this in the Book of Matthew.

Would you agree that 1 trait of a child of God, would be that they, would be a peacemaker?
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#18 Dec 17, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> Oh oh, you are acting like one of those stupid people again--that's a no no! Read ALL oF 1st John and 2nd John! One born of God will NEVER sin again! One teaching beyond what Jesus taught is of Satan and have nothing to do with them!
How do you know what is right without the covenant CB? Huh? Even the Talaban love each other! Duh!
You were never included in the Old Covenant.

remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.

I see you are still teaching that "Over coming sin" "sinless perfectionism" heresy that Ellen convinced you of.

The only covenant you or anyone else has the opportunity to be included in is the New One. It applies to "Whosoever believeth in Him".

Those who believeth in Him, He will write His laws on their heart.

That RR is how you will know what is right.

Proverbs 28:5 Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the LORD understand it fully.

John 6:45 It is written in the Prophets:'They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me.

1 John 2:20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.

CB
JParker

Mesquite, NV

#19 Dec 17, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
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You were never included in the Old Covenant.
remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.
I see you are still teaching that "Over coming sin" "sinless perfectionism" heresy that Ellen convinced you of.
The only covenant you or anyone else has the opportunity to be included in is the New One. It applies to "Whosoever believeth in Him".
Those who believeth in Him, He will write His laws on their heart.
That RR is how you will know what is right.
Proverbs 28:5 Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the LORD understand it fully.
John 6:45 It is written in the Prophets:'They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me.
1 John 2:20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.
CB
Are you a peacemaker?
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#20 Dec 18, 2012
JParker wrote:
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Are you a peacemaker?
I am.

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