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This series is a warning to all Seventh-day Adventists who sheepishly accept popery because it is practiced by their leaders. It is the message of the third angel specifically applied to them.

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Shubee wrote:
This series is a warning to all Seventh-day Adventists who sheepishly accept popery because it is practiced by their leaders. It is the message of the third angel specifically applied to them.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday...
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Only a very very few Adventists will hear the message to come out of Babylon.

Most Adventists are so deeply brainwashed into believing that we are all demons trying to mislead them and that they are the true remnant and specially chosen people by God and only they will avoid the Mark of the Beast and be saved in the end.

When a person is that deeply brainwashed they won't listen to you or I, and instead, only think that Satan has sent us to cause them to be deceived, misled and lost.

The Pharisee's believed exactly the same but look where that got them. Jesus and the Disciples were trying the exact same thing with the Pharisee's to try to reach them with the truth, but exactly like the Adventists, they too were so deeply convinced and brainwashed that they were right and we are wrong, that they refused to listen to the truth.

But good on you for trying because even if you reach a single soul you have done well.

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Paul of Tarsus wrote:
Most Adventists are so deeply brainwashed into believing that we are all demons trying to mislead them and that they are the true remnant and specially chosen people by God and only they will avoid the Mark of the Beast and be saved in the end.
When a person is that deeply brainwashed they won't listen to you or I, and instead, only think that Satan has sent us to cause them to be deceived, misled and lost.
There's a lot of truth to what you said. Ellen White said that Adventist leaders will be terrified by the three angels' messages when these messages come with great power.

“There is to be in the churches a wonderful manifestation of the power of God, but it will not move upon those who have not humbled themselves before the Lord, and opened the door of their heart by confession and repentance. In the manifestation of that power which lightens the earth with the glory of God, they will see only something which in their blindness they think dangerous, something which will arouse their fears, and they will brace themselves to resist it. Because the Lord does not work according to their expectations and ideal, they will oppose the work.‘Why,’ they say,‘should we not know the Spirit of God, when we have been in the work so many years?’— Because they did not respond to the warnings, the entreaties, of the messages of God, but persistently said,‘I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing.’” 1888, p. 765.

Why is the Seventh-day Adventist leadership out of harmony with the three angels' messages? For one, obviously, the third angel's message condemns popery and the pseudo-Adventists in Seventh-day Adventist hierarchy are all papists.

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Here is Ellen G. White's appraisal of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, in the context I have quoted, and it doesn't look good:

The Lord has sent a message to arouse his people to repent, and do their first works; but how has his message been received? While some have heeded it, others have cast contempt and reproach on the message and the messenger. Spirituality deadened, humility and childlike simplicity gone, a mechanical, formal profession of faith has taken the place of love and devotion. Is this mournful condition of things to continue? is the lamp of God's love to go out in darkness? The Saviour calls; listen to his voice: "Be zealous and repent." Repent, confess your sins, and you will be forgiven. "Turn ye, turn ye; for why will ye die?" Why will you try to rekindle a mere fitful fire, and walk in the sparks of your own kindling?{RH, December 23, 1890 par. 16}

The True Witness declares, "I know thy works." "Repent, and do the first works." This is the true test, the evidence that the Spirit of God is working in the heart to imbue you with his love. "I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent." The church is like the unproductive tree which, receiving the dew and rain and sunshine, should have produced an abundance of fruit, but on which the divine search discovers nothing but leaves. Solemn thought for our churches! solemn, indeed, for every individual! Marvelous is the patience and forbearance of God; but "except thou repent," it will be exhausted; the churches, our institutions, will go from weakness to weakness, from cold formality to deadness, while they are saying, "I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing." The True Witness says, "And knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked." Will they ever see clearly their condition?{RH, December 23, 1890 par. 17}

There is to be in the churches a wonderful manifestation of the power of God, but it will not move upon those who have not humbled themselves before the Lord, and opened the door of the heart by confession and repentance. In the manifestation of that power which lightens the earth with the glory of God, they will see only something which in their blindness they think dangerous, something which will arouse their fears, and they will brace themselves to resist it. Because the Lord does not work according to their ideas and expectations, they will oppose the work. "Why," they say, "should not we know the Spirit of God, when we have been in the work so many years?"--Because they did not respond to the warnings, the entreaties of the messages of God, but persistently said, "I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing." Talent, long experience, will not make men channels of light, unless they place themselves under the bright beams of the Sun of Righteousness, and are called, and chosen, and prepared by the endowment of the Holy Spirit. When men who handle sacred things will humble themselves under the mighty hand of God, the Lord will lift them up. He will make them men of discernment--men rich in the grace of his Spirit. Their strong, selfish traits of character, their stubbornness, will be seen in the light shining from the Light of the world. "I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent." If you seek the Lord with all your heart, he will be found of you.{RH, December 23, 1890 par. 18}

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The end is near! We have not a moment to lose! Light is to shine forth from God's people in clear, distinct rays, bringing Jesus before the churches and before the world. Our work is not to be restricted to those who already know the truth; our field is the world. The instrumentalities to be used are those souls who gladly receive the light of truth which God communicates to them. These are God's agencies for communicating the knowledge of truth to the world. If through the grace of Christ his people will become new bottles, he will fill them with the new wine. God will give additional light, and old truths will be recovered, and replaced in the frame-work of truth; and wherever the laborers go, they will triumph. As Christ's ambassadors, they are to search the Scriptures, to seek for the truths that have been hidden beneath the rubbish of error. And every ray of light received is to be communicated to others. One interest will prevail, one subject will swallow up every other,--Christ our righteousness.{RH, December 23, 1890 par. 19}

"This is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." "Thus saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches: but let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the Lord which exercise loving-kindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the Lord." This is what needs to be brought into the experience of every worker, high or low, in all our institutions, in all our churches. God wants every soul to return to the first love. He wants all to have the gold of faith and love, so that they can draw from the treasure to impart to others who need it.{RH, December 23, 1890 par. 20}

Then the believers will be of one heart and of one mind, and the Lord will make his word powerful in the earth. New cities and villages and territories will be entered; the church will arise and shine, because her light has come, for the glory of the Lord is risen upon her. New converts will be added to the churches, and those who now claim to be converted will feel in their own hearts the transforming power of the grace of Christ. Then Satan will be aroused, and will excite the bitterest persecution against God's people. But those not of our faith, who have not rejected light, will recognize the spirit of Christ in his true followers, and will take their stand with the people of God.{RH, December 23, 1890 par. 21}

Christ says, speaking of the Comforter, "He shall not speak of himself;" "he shall testify of me;" "he shall glorify me." How little has Christ been preached! The laborers have presented theories, plenty of them, but little of Christ and his love. As the Saviour came to glorify the Father by the demonstration of his love, so the Spirit came to glorify Christ by revealing to the world the riches of his love and grace. If the Holy Spirit dwells in us, our work will testify to the fact, we shall lift up Jesus. Not one can afford to be silent now; the burden of the work is to present Christ to the world. All who venture to have their own way, who do not join the angels who are sent from heaven with a message to fill the whole earth with its glory, will be passed by. The work will go forward to victory without them, and they will have no part in its triumph.

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Hello SDA's and newbies.

Shubees website is a Jesuit propaganda website thats main purpose is to malign SDA's.

I would caution anyone about the potential to pick up harmful PC viruses off his website.

Here is a terrific unbiased you tube broadcast of the three angels message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Messenger4truth wrote:
Hello SDA's and newbies.
Shubees website is a Jesuit propaganda website thats main purpose is to malign SDA's.
I would caution anyone about the potential to pick up harmful PC viruses off his website.
Here is a terrific unbiased you tube broadcast of the three angels message.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Messenger4truth is a false Pharisee teacher!!! And all Pharisee's will always warn others to avoid reading certain things. Messenger4truth is shaking scared to read anything that conflicts with his own beliefs.
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Messenger4truth wrote:
Hello SDA's and newbies.
Shubees website is a Jesuit propaganda website thats main purpose is to malign SDA's.
I would caution anyone about the potential to pick up harmful PC viruses off his website.
Here is a terrific unbiased you tube broadcast of the three angels message.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Just as the Pharisee lied about Jesus, you have made willful lies about someone else. Suggesting their website has virus in a desperate and panicked attempt to stop people reading other information besides your own, is the most pathetic thing I have ever read.

Websites don't have Virus you noob! They can have "driveby downloads" but they cannot have a "Virus" lol.

And if his website has a "Virus" then prove it! If you fail to prove it you are shown to be a LIAR!

You always seem so scared about other people's beliefs. You are frightened and shake because you do not love the truth.

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Paul of Tarsus wrote:
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Messenger4truth is a false Pharisee teacher!!! And all Pharisee's will always warn others to avoid reading certain things. Messenger4truth is shaking scared to read anything that conflicts with his own beliefs.
Uh no.

We go to the source for the truth

Gen 2v2
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Not some mentally malfunctioning maligned demented purveyor of satans jesuit church website, shubees everything demented and slandered.

Anyone fuming against SDA's

are found at the source

REV 12V17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

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Paul of Tarsus wrote:
Just as the Pharisee lied about Jesus, you have made willful lies about someone else. Suggesting their website has virus in a desperate and panicked attempt to stop people reading other information besides your own, is the most pathetic thing I have ever read.
Websites don't have Virus you noob! They can have "driveby downloads" but they cannot have a "Virus" lol.
And if his website has a "Virus" then prove it! If you fail to prove it you are shown to be a LIAR!
Paul, I'm always a little shocked at the lengths that the spiritually blind will go in their misrepresentations. Satan sure has a faithful follower in Messenger4lies. I really do take it as a high honor to be slandered so viciously and dishonestly by him. His response makes me entertain the idea that Satan can't control his anger against me and, like his servant M4L, he is outraged by the power of my message.
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For rest from Shubee counterfeit beast doctrine

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Give it up Messenger4lies. You are the one fuming at the truth. It's obvious to everyone that you have given yourself to Satan and that you are under his control. http://www.everythingimportant.org/EllenGWhit...
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Uh no.
We go to the source for the truth
Gen 2v2
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Not some mentally malfunctioning maligned demented purveyor of satans jesuit church website, shubees everything demented and slandered.
Anyone fuming against SDA's
are found at the source
REV 12V17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Do you keep God's 10 Commandments perfect and never sin?
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Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> Paul, I'm always a little shocked at the lengths that the spiritually blind will go in their misrepresentations. Satan sure has a faithful follower in Messenger4lies. I really do take it as a high honor to be slandered so viciously and dishonestly by him. His response makes me entertain the idea that Satan can't control his anger against me and, like his servant M4L, he is outraged by the power of my message.
Any truth lover and truth seeker is never afraid to read anything and everything. But M4t is so trembling with fear because he hates then love of the truth and will lie to try to encourage others not to read anything besides his own messages.

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As for me, I follow God's Word only. No other books, no other person. Shame you cannot say that too.
There is no sin to learn from the God-inspired wisdom, writings and videos of God-fearing men and women.

Who do you think are proclaiming the three angels' messages today?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewto...
http://www.everythingimportant.org/EllenGWhit...
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Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> There is no sin to learn from the God-inspired wisdom, writings and videos of God-fearing men and women.
Who do you think are proclaiming the three angels' messages today?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewto...
http://www.everythingimportant.org/EllenGWhit...
Before we go to step number 2, let's focus on step number 1.

What exactly, in YOUR Opinion and understanding, IS the three angels' messages?

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Paul of Tarsus wrote:
What exactly, in YOUR Opinion and understanding, IS the three angels' messages?
I wrote out the general structure here:
http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewto...
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<quoted text> I wrote out the general structure here:
http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewto...
Your webpage contains legalism, filled with a message of obedience for salvation.

The thing you neglected to mention is that you are disobedient and so is every sinner. Sinners sin, and sinning means to break God's law, which in turn means to be disobedient.

Surely you are not claiming to be perfectly obedient and sinless are you?

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At great personal sacrifice, I have also tried to teach Seventh-day Adventists that they should resist pan-Gnostic Adventist spiritualism and Adventist popery.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/dupery
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Paul of Tarsus wrote:
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Only a very very few Adventists will hear the message to come out of Babylon.
Most Adventists are so deeply brainwashed into believing that we are all demons trying to mislead them and that they are the true remnant and specially chosen people by God and only they will avoid the Mark of the Beast and be saved in the end.
When a person is that deeply brainwashed they won't listen to you or I, and instead, only think that Satan has sent us to cause them to be deceived, misled and lost.
The Pharisee's believed exactly the same but look where that got them. Jesus and the Disciples were trying the exact same thing with the Pharisee's to try to reach them with the truth, but exactly like the Adventists, they too were so deeply convinced and brainwashed that they were right and we are wrong, that they refused to listen to the truth.
But good on you for trying because even if you reach a single soul you have done well.
But you two do not have the truth either. You both (Tony and Paul of Calif.) are as brain washed and brain dead as the SDA's in Laodicea that are being spued. So in the light of your darkness and blindness you cannot show them anything your purposefully ignorant wilingly so are merely able to gargle peanut butter and garbage.

So GO, and snore in your own little corner of the world you are not different than those you think you are here to open the eyes of.

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