PAUL SAID YES AND JESUS SAID NOOo

PAUL SAID YES AND JESUS SAID NOOo

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DANNO

London, UK

#1 Nov 18, 2012
Can GOD SAVE Bill GATES by FAITH & GRACE alone??? yes or no?

PAUL SAID YES!

Jesus SAID NO!

I gree with JESUS!

Do you agree with PAUL?

New International Version (©1984)
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle THAN A RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD."

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PAUL SAID WOMEN SHOULD KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT! 1st Tim 2: 12-13 & 1st Cor 14: 34

JESUS spoke to women and he allowed women to spk to him!!

I agree with Jesus that WOMEN can spk anywhere they wish!

Paul said THEY are NOT allowed to spk!

I agree with Jesus!

Do you agree with Paul?

==========

The God of Moses said do NOT EAT PORK! LEV 11

The god of Paul said you can eat all meat sold in the Market.

1st Tim 4: 4-5 & 1st Cor 10: 25 & in 2nd Cor 6: 17 HE AGREES WITH MOSES! I AGREE with Mr Moses the prophet of GOD!

Do you agree with the god of Paul who allowed PAUL to be CURSED? 2nd Cor 12: 7

Since: Dec 07

Melbourne, Australia

#2 Nov 19, 2012
You do not know what Jesus said as he wrote nothing. You are only reading the political positions of writers who lived decades after him.

Paul did not write 1 Timothy.

What is clear is that Paul invented his own religion. He tried to turn Jesus into a Christian. What is clear is that there were any number of belief systems. Read Michael Goulder's renouned book on the dichotomy between the Paulines (Antioch) and the Petrines (Jerusalem).

The story given in Acts is a late invention that tried to paper over their differences. The story about the Conference (Acts 15) is one example: Paul's account of it and his subsequent statements (re: food, for example) do not tally with the account at Acts (ostensibly by an eye witness but clearly not).

What is not clear is why a God would not protect a writing purporting to be from him. Of course it did not.

God was not concerned about the distortions and errors, including which writings to accept, nor does God bother to correct the record, which could be done by getting someone today to write his/her words. One could never consider the Bible -- whichever form or version -- to be free from error or free from fable and invented history.

Doug
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#3 Nov 19, 2012
Doug Mason wrote:
You do not know what Jesus said as he wrote nothing. You are only reading the political positions of writers who lived decades after him.
Paul did not write 1 Timothy.
What is clear is that Paul invented his own religion. He tried to turn Jesus into a Christian. What is clear is that there were any number of belief systems. Read Michael Goulder's renouned book on the dichotomy between the Paulines (Antioch) and the Petrines (Jerusalem).
The story given in Acts is a late invention that tried to paper over their differences. The story about the Conference (Acts 15) is one example: Paul's account of it and his subsequent statements (re: food, for example) do not tally with the account at Acts (ostensibly by an eye witness but clearly not).
What is not clear is why a God would not protect a writing purporting to be from him. Of course it did not.
God was not concerned about the distortions and errors, including which writings to accept, nor does God bother to correct the record, which could be done by getting someone today to write his/her words. One could never consider the Bible -- whichever form or version -- to be free from error or free from fable and invented history.
Doug
Yes, Paul did invent his own God and Jesus and religion called "Christian". And YES, there are many other religions in the world that were invented by man--but Satan had a hand in all of them my friend!

There is only ONE Truth as truth is absolute and objective, not subjective as Paul taught.

That ONE truth has been tainted by many who take bits and parts of it and twist it to their own liking.

However, that ONE single truth MUST be able to be found or NO ONE would or could be judged. Therefore, that ONE truth has been saved and kept as Jesus KNEW it would be and the proof for this is found in John 14:26 and 17:17-23.

Yes, Doug, I have read many books too on many religions, but there really is only ONE truth--the words of Jesus given to us by ONLY His eye and ear witnesses after they have been given the Holy Spirit to cause them to remember exactly what Jesus said before.
DANNO

London, UK

#4 Nov 19, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, Paul did invent his own God and Jesus and religion called "Christian". And YES, there are many other religions in the world that were invented by man--but Satan had a hand in all of them my friend!
There is only ONE Truth as truth is absolute and objective, not subjective as Paul taught.
That ONE truth has been tainted by many who take bits and parts of it and twist it to their own liking.
However, that ONE single truth MUST be able to be found or NO ONE would or could be judged. Therefore, that ONE truth has been saved and kept as Jesus KNEW it would be and the proof for this is found in John 14:26 and 17:17-23.
Yes, Doug, I have read many books too on many religions, but there really is only ONE truth--the words of Jesus given to us by ONLY His eye and ear witnesses after they have been given the Holy Spirit to cause them to remember exactly what Jesus said before.
Rocky

How would you deal with the ORDIANED Minister LEE if he attacked you on putting a CAPITAL S for satan in your post??

Dan
DANNO

London, UK

#5 Nov 20, 2012
Why cant RICH people be saved by the FREE GIFT of GRACE like many of you guys on here???

What is so wrong with RICH people that their FAITH in JESUS and God's GRACE is NOT good enough to save them??

Dan
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#6 Nov 20, 2012
DANNO wrote:
Why cant RICH people be saved by the FREE GIFT of GRACE like many of you guys on here???
What is so wrong with RICH people that their FAITH in JESUS and God's GRACE is NOT good enough to save them??
Dan
Dan, please understand that Jesus was actually talking about 'spiritually rich', meaning that that the person is in need of NOTHING as found in Rev. 3's Laodicea.
DANNO

UK

#7 Jan 19, 2013
Re: post No1

Was Paul or Jesus right?

Dan
DUMMO Spammin For Satan

Brattleboro, VT

#8 Jan 19, 2013
"The God of Moses said do NOT EAT PORK! LEV 11
The god of Paul said you can eat all meat sold in the Market."
-Paul did NOT say that DUMMO
DANNO

UK

#9 Jan 19, 2013
DUMMO Spammin For Satan wrote:
"The God of Moses said do NOT EAT PORK! LEV 11
The god of Paul said you can eat all meat sold in the Market."
-Paul did NOT say that DUMMO
Read > 1st TIM 4: 4-5 & 1st Cor 10: 25 & COL 2: 16

After you have read the above 3 times then read 2nd COR 6: 17 twice

Dan

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#10 Jan 19, 2013
>PAUL SAID WOMEN SHOULD KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT! 1st Tim 2: 12-13 & 1st Cor 14: 34

Drano can't read too well.

1 Timothy 2:12-13 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

Where does it say in either verse (esp. 13) that women should keep their mouth shut? Hey BS, Drano is talking about you behind your back!

1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

Note the context--Drano with an agenda falsely extrapolates it everywhere, at all times.
DANNO

UK

#11 Jan 19, 2013
djconklin wrote:
>PAUL SAID WOMEN SHOULD KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT! 1st Tim 2: 12-13 & 1st Cor 14: 34
Drano can't read too well.
1 Timothy 2:12-13 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
Where does it say in either verse (esp. 13) that women should keep their mouth shut? Hey BS, Drano is talking about you behind your back!
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
Note the context--Drano with an agenda falsely extrapolates it everywhere, at all times.
Conkie

Welcome back.
Why do you secretly REJECT 1st TIM 1: 9 & GAL 3: 9-11 & GAL 2: 16 ?? do you really think GOD doe's NOT know you secretly reject those texts by Paul?

Why are you taking so long to sue us?

Was it a good thing that your pal's [Koot] letters are xposed to the whole world to read? Is Koot still spending money collected from Tithes fighting Google?

Google: Letters from Patsy Koot
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#12 Jan 23, 2013
Doug Mason wrote:
You do not know what Jesus said as he wrote nothing. You are only reading the political positions of writers who lived decades after him.
Paul did not write 1 Timothy.
What is clear is that Paul invented his own religion. He tried to turn Jesus into a Christian. What is clear is that there were any number of belief systems. Read Michael Goulder's renouned book on the dichotomy between the Paulines (Antioch) and the Petrines (Jerusalem).
The story given in Acts is a late invention that tried to paper over their differences. The story about the Conference (Acts 15) is one example: Paul's account of it and his subsequent statements (re: food, for example) do not tally with the account at Acts (ostensibly by an eye witness but clearly not).
What is not clear is why a God would not protect a writing purporting to be from him. Of course it did not.
God was not concerned about the distortions and errors, including which writings to accept, nor does God bother to correct the record, which could be done by getting someone today to write his/her words. One could never consider the Bible -- whichever form or version -- to be free from error or free from fable and invented history.
Doug
If it were impossible to know exactly what Jesus said and taught, then Jesus lied and you can kiss your tutu goodby forever! I am sorry for you Doug as you have yet to find the real God. But then maybe you have not been looking in the right place.

If what Jesus said in John 14:26 and 17:17-22 is not the truth Doug, then truth can't ever be found. The chain of evidence never was broken from Jesus' actual words to and when those who heard them and were reminded of them thru the Holy Spirit and then wrote them down for ME to see and believe them to be true. This is not hearsay evidence as Luke wrote.

Paul's words were induced from the visions (like EGW and Mohaamud and Josephe Smith) and unlike Matthew and John, none of them met Jesus or heard Jesus speak and teach. All of them have ONE thing in common and that is they believed by their own blind faith in what they heard in their head.

All of them failed to TEST these voices in their heads with the actual words of Jesus from Matthew and John. Yes, Doug, unlike your own belief, each word was carefully selected by the Holy Spirit causing the apostles to remember word for word exactly what Jesus said. Those words are truth and they are eternal life for those who abide in them.
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#13 Jan 23, 2013
DANNO wrote:
<quoted text>
Rocky
How would you deal with the ORDIANED Minister LEE if he attacked you on putting a CAPITAL S for satan in your post??
Dan
Just ignore him as Jesus ignored the Pharisee's bad mouthing Him.

Interestingly, those on the left (liberal) will fight you by name calling and making fun of you, even wanting to do away with you if they could because they do not know how to use facts to argue against the facts of those on the right. Actually, they don't have facts to fight with because their whole believe is a lie made up by faith alone.

Therefore, expect name calling and such from those type of people as they have no useful facts to use against truth. The more name calling, the better it is as Jesus even prophesied that this would happen to HIS true servants.

But this also means that the true servants should hold down their name calling unless the name they use actually fits the picture as what Jesus did with the dirty rotten den of vipers!
DANNO

Swaffham, UK

#14 Jan 27, 2013
To all readers.

Can you SPOT an ERROR by the SPIRIT who inspired Paul in the quotes below?

1 Thessalonians 5:8
New International Version (NIV)

8 But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on FAITH AND LOVE as a BREASTPLATE, and the HOPE of salvation as a helmet.

--==-=-===
Ephesians 6:14
New International Version (NIV)

14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the BREASTPLATE of RIGHTEOUSNESS in place.

Questions for you.

A. Do you have FAITH/BELIEF and ASSURANCE in your SALVATION?

B. HOPE of ASSURANCE in your SALVATION?

A or B?

Dan
Crazy Baptist

Winnsboro, SC

#15 Jan 27, 2013
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, Paul did invent his own God and Jesus and religion called "Christian". And YES, there are many other religions in the world that were invented by man--but Satan had a hand in all of them my friend!
There is only ONE Truth as truth is absolute and objective, not subjective as Paul taught.
That ONE truth has been tainted by many who take bits and parts of it and twist it to their own liking.
However, that ONE single truth MUST be able to be found or NO ONE would or could be judged. Therefore, that ONE truth has been saved and kept as Jesus KNEW it would be and the proof for this is found in John 14:26 and 17:17-23.
Yes, Doug, I have read many books too on many religions, but there really is only ONE truth--the words of Jesus given to us by ONLY His eye and ear witnesses after they have been given the Holy Spirit to cause them to remember exactly what Jesus said before.
No proof.

CB
Crazy Baptist

Winnsboro, SC

#16 Jan 27, 2013
DANNO wrote:
Can GOD SAVE Bill GATES by FAITH & GRACE alone??? yes or no?
PAUL SAID YES!
Jesus SAID NO!
I gree with JESUS!
Do you agree with PAUL?
New International Version (©1984)
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle THAN A RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD."
====
PAUL SAID WOMEN SHOULD KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT! 1st Tim 2: 12-13 & 1st Cor 14: 34
JESUS spoke to women and he allowed women to spk to him!!
I agree with Jesus that WOMEN can spk anywhere they wish!
Paul said THEY are NOT allowed to spk!
I agree with Jesus!
Do you agree with Paul?
==========
The God of Moses said do NOT EAT PORK! LEV 11
The god of Paul said you can eat all meat sold in the Market.
1st Tim 4: 4-5 & 1st Cor 10: 25 & in 2nd Cor 6: 17 HE AGREES WITH MOSES! I AGREE with Mr Moses the prophet of GOD!
Do you agree with the god of Paul who allowed PAUL to be CURSED? 2nd Cor 12: 7
Court Jester - The God of Noah gave Noah and his family permission to eat anything that moves. Anything that swims. Anything that has wings.

Genesis 9

NOW READ:

Genesis 9:2,3 2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands.

3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

Question: WHAT PART OF "EVERYTHING" DO YOU NOT COMPREHEND??

CB
Crazy Baptist

Winnsboro, SC

#17 Jan 27, 2013
DUMMO Spammin For Satan wrote:
"The God of Moses said do NOT EAT PORK! LEV 11
The god of Paul said you can eat all meat sold in the Market."
-Paul did NOT say that DUMMO
Again......

Genesis 9:2,3 2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands.

3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

God Dan, not Paul or anyone else. It was God that said we can eat pigs.

CB
DANNO

Swaffham, UK

#18 Jan 27, 2013
Crazy Baptist wrote:
<quoted text>
Again......
Genesis 9:2,3 2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands.
3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.
God Dan, not Paul or anyone else. It was God that said we can eat pigs.
CB
What about Dog's and Cats and Snails and Rats & Snakes? Does GOD say you can you eat them too? Yes or no?

Dan
DANNO

Swaffham, UK

#19 Jan 27, 2013
CrazyB

Will you be making a reply to post 14?

Dan
Crazy Baptist

Winnsboro, SC

#20 Jan 27, 2013
DANNO wrote:
CrazyB
Will you be making a reply to post 14?
Dan
Sure

You, not Paul, Jesus or the HS, but you Dan have made the error.

A pharisee said to Jesus "We know you are from God because no man can do these things unless God be in him".

The same applies to Paul and the others that were given the HS.

Acts 19:8-11 Paul entered the synagogue and spoke boldly there for three months, arguing persuasively about the kingdom of God. 9 But some of them became obstinate; they refused to believe and publicly maligned the Way. So Paul left them. He took the disciples with him and had discussions daily in the lecture hall of Tyrannus. 10 This went on for two years, so that all the Jews and Greeks who lived in the province of Asia heard the word of the Lord.

11 God did extraordinary miracles through Paul,

About this Jesus declared:

Matthew 7:20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Conclusion: So you see Dan WE KNOW that Paul was chosen of God because

A) Only one from God could do such things

AND

B) Paul's fruits speak for him. They identify him to us, the children of God.

CB

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