What did Paul mean in Romans 14:5 that one may esteem 'one day above another'?

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SDAdventist

Fort Myers, FL

#1 Oct 23, 2008
What did Paul mean by saying in Romans 14:5,“One man esteemeth one day above another, another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind? Was he speaking about the Sabbath day?”

Let us read through Romans 14 together:

Romans 14
The Weak and the Strong
1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

In the immediate context we learn that the Romans were having doubtful “disputations” about “foods.” The Sabbath was not a disputable matter; rather it was an express command by God (Ex. 20:8-11). The problem we already learn of as we read verse 2, is that some believe they can eat “all things” while others who are “weak, eateth herbs.” Verses 3 and 4 show how this eating issue, which is the disputable matter, is an issue where no man should judge. In other words, If you feel a full blown vegetarian life style is best for you, I have no right to judge you on the matter, for God can use both the vegan and the meat eater.

Romans 14:5-7

5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

Some people say this means 'Everyday is the Sabbath' but nowhere in the scriptures does it say that. Others say that this is referring to the Sabbath day, and that Paul is teaching that we can view every day “alike.” But the word “alike” is in italic, meaning it’s not in the Greek. Let’s examine verse 6 closely. Paul first says that he that regards the day regards it to God. He that does not regard it, does not regard it to God. Likewise, and this is important, he that eats, to the Lord he eats, and he that does not eat, he says,“to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.” Paul is using the same logic he used in regards to the “day” as he does to “eating.” Linguistically therefore, if it doesn’t matter what day we keep, then it also does not matter if we eat or not. Will we really think Paul is teaching we can spend our lives not eating, giving thanks to God, and expect God to honor this? Or could it rather be that Paul is speaking about certain days where we can decide to eat upon those days or not, i.e. fasting? We feel the latter fits better with the context. The disputable matter was on fasting, and when to fast.
SDAdventist

Fort Myers, FL

#2 Oct 23, 2008
Romans 14:9-13 (King James Version)

9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

12So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

13Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

Other early Christian writings, at around this time, show how this issue was also found in other churches. The Didache (8:1) warns Christians not to fast with the hypocrites on the second and fifth days of the week, but that they should rather fast on the fourth and sixth days. It is likely that Paul had the Sabbath in mind, because some of the Jew felt fasting on the Sabbath was acceptable while others felt it should not be done upon the Sabbath. However the context does not show that Paul is speaking about the Sabbath or any religious day for that matter, but rather about when to fast. Apparently he shows how it is a matter between the individual person and God, and that we should not judge our neighbor on this (verses 10, 13).

Further proof that Paul is not speaking about holy days is in his attitude towards this disputable matter. Back in Colossians, when handling the problem of legalism within the Colossian church, Paul specifically addresses what he is speaking about by actually naming them (Col. 2:16). The same goes for his epistle to the Galatians. In addressing them about holy days (Gal. 4:10), Paul first expresses how the people have been “bewitched” warning them of “another gospel”–Gal. 3:1, 1:8. The harsh but loving way Paul address the Galatians and Colossians in regards to religious days is totally absent from Romans 14. When speaking about the “bondage” of this world (Gal. 4:3, 9), Paul begins to address them in regards to their pagan past (verse 8) mentioning religious “days”–verse 10. However, in Romans 14, Paul seems to be addressing the issue of “days” quite differently, saying in other words, we need not worry about it. This change in how he approaches the issue, is evidence that Paul is not speaking about Sabbath days here, but rather about fast days.
Much appreciated

London, UK

#3 Nov 27, 2008
Thanks

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#4 Dec 2, 2008
WOW Elizabeth this Seventh Day Adventist forum has gotten out of hand, it is so whacked with believers and non believers who are not even civil with each and keep pushing each others buttons ... I thought I was the one whacked in the head hmmm but now I believe I am totally and completely within the norm range.
will

Magnolia, DE

#5 May 9, 2009
saved by grace
Kelleyelston

Vancouver, WA

#6 Dec 28, 2011
The italics are only added to that verse, where the word added was not there in that scriptures Greek, but was part of the same phrase, or subject matter somewhere else in the Word. It is not just added because man put it there. Get it right.
Deanna

Florence, SC

#7 Jan 8, 2012
Paul said that if people would refrain from eating meat that was offered to idols, the rest of the doctrines were not that big a deal. Some think one thing and some another. Each must do what he thinks is right. The important thing is the relationship to God, not in keeping a list of rules.

Seventh-day Adventists think that which day you keep (not every seventh day) is eventually the deciding vote in whether you go to heaven. Having grown up in the church and having been educated in their schools through college, I know. The presentation to outsiders softens it some in the beginning, but once you're in, you'll find that this is VERY important. Thus, it's part of the name of their church.
postroad

Canada

#8 Jan 9, 2012
So basically the message is if you are convinced in your heart that you are not sinning by your actions then you are not?

But keep your revelation from the Spirit a secret from you weaker unenlightened brothers for the sake of harmony in the church and be careful
to hide your freedom from them?

Sounds less than what could be expected from the Holy Spirit.

Imagine the horror on Paul's face when he discovered what the Spirit had allowed the believers to engage in while he was not their to restrain it.

He sure sings a different tune in this text.

1 Corinthians 5

Expel the Immoral Brother!
1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? 3 Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present. 4 When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5 hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature[a] may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.
6 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth.

9 I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside.“Expel the wicked man from among you.”

He uses conciliatory words when he believed that reconciliation between the Jewish and Gentile believers was possible. But how does he write when the Judaizers are gaining the upper hand?

Galatians 1:6-9

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No Other Gospel
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
postroad

Canada

#9 Jan 9, 2012
Exactly by what standards are believers supposed to judge each other anyway, if the Spirit is not revealing the same truth equally and each member is surreptitiously hiding any behaviour that he deem his poor unenlightened fellow believers might find offensive?
Birdman

Charleston, IL

#10 Jan 9, 2012
postroad wrote:
Exactly by what standards are believers supposed to judge each other anyway, if the Spirit is not revealing the same truth equally and each member is surreptitiously hiding any behaviour that he deem his poor unenlightened fellow believers might find offensive?
what has happened is many have taken certain verses and made them fit their interpretation and also with their interpretation it also makes the Scripture contradict itself.

the Scripture Never contradicts itself.

It is our interpretaion of a verse that is wrong when it does.

That is why one is to compare verse upon verse and such to get the meaning
postroad

Canada

#11 Jan 9, 2012
Birdman wrote:
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what has happened is many have taken certain verses and made them fit their interpretation and also with their interpretation it also makes the Scripture contradict itself.
the Scripture Never contradicts itself.
It is our interpretaion of a verse that is wrong when it does.
That is why one is to compare verse upon verse and such to get the meaning
Oh boy!
If the texts contradict each other who gets to decide which text takes precedence?
Or if a harmonisation of the texts that are held in tension is required who decides what that truth not explicit in each individual text will be?
And exactly what purpose would such confusion be in a revelation of God to man?
At what point in the New Covenant will such confusion be replaced with the singleness of thought and action prophesied?

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#12 Jan 10, 2012
postroad wrote:
So basically the message is if you are convinced in your heart that you are not sinning by your actions then you are not?
But keep your revelation from the Spirit a secret from you weaker unenlightened brothers for the sake of harmony in the church and be careful
to hide your freedom from them?
Sounds less than what could be expected from the Holy Spirit.
Imagine the horror on Paul's face when he discovered what the Spirit had allowed the believers to engage in while he was not their to restrain it.
He sure sings a different tune in this text.
1 Corinthians 5
Expel the Immoral Brother!
1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? 3 Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present. 4 When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5 hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature[a] may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.
6 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside.“Expel the wicked man from among you.”
He uses conciliatory words when he believed that reconciliation between the Jewish and Gentile believers was possible. But how does he write when the Judaizers are gaining the upper hand?
Galatians 1:6-9
New International Version 1984 (NIV1984)
No Other Gospel
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
This is a very good point. Do you notice Paul the same person who tells people not to judge anyone with respects to keeping the Sabbath condemns other practices even telling us to expell people who fornicate and do not hold to his teachings.

He obviously didn't think observing the seventh day Sabbath was necessary. But did think other things were.

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#13 Jan 11, 2012
SDAdventist wrote:
What did Paul mean by saying in Romans 14:5,“One man esteemeth one day above another, another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind? Was he speaking about the Sabbath day?”

Let us read through Romans 14 together:

Romans 14
The Weak and the Strong
1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

In the immediate context we learn that the Romans were having doubtful “disputations” about “foods.” The Sabbath was not a disputable matter; rather it was an express command by God (Ex. 20:8-11). The problem we already learn of as we read verse 2, is that some believe they can eat “all things” while others who are “weak, eateth herbs.” Verses 3 and 4 show how this eating issue, which is the disputable matter, is an issue where no man should judge. In other words, If you feel a full blown vegetarian life style is best for you, I have no right to judge you on the matter, for God can use both the vegan and the meat eater.

Romans 14:5-7

5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

Some people say this means 'Everyday is the Sabbath' but nowhere in the scriptures does it say that. Others say that this is referring to the Sabbath day, and that Paul is teaching that we can view every day “alike.” But the word “alike” is in italic, meaning it’s not in the Greek. Let’s examine verse 6 closely. Paul first says that he that regards the day regards it to God. He that does not regard it, does not regard it to God. Likewise, and this is important, he that eats, to the Lord he eats, and he that does not eat, he says,“to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.” Paul is using the same logic he used in regards to the “day” as he does to “eating.” Linguistically therefore, if it doesn’t matter what day we keep, then it also does not matter if we eat or not. Will we really think Paul is teaching we can spend our lives not eating, giving thanks to God, and expect God to honor this? Or could it rather be that Paul is speaking about certain days where we can decide to eat upon those days or not, i.e. fasting? We feel the latter fits better with the context. The disputable matter was on fasting, and when to fast.
Excellent and brilliant observation!

Except I would add that Paul is not dealing with diet. The reason he mentioned that some choose to eat herbs (or vegetables) was because the weaker gentile brothers did not want to risk eating any meats offered to idols. Especially on these festival days.

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#14 Jan 11, 2012
CMWYW wrote:
<quoted text>This is a very good point. Do you notice Paul the same person who tells people not to judge anyone with respects to keeping the Sabbath condemns other practices even telling us to expell people who fornicate and do not hold to his teachings.

He obviously didn't think observing the seventh day Sabbath was necessary. But did think other things were.
#1. Every believer was accustomed to keeping the Sabbath, that is why Paul did not raise Sabbath-breaking as a concern in his day.

#2. The Jews never once objected to Paul OR gentile believers for breaking the Sabbath. Their issue of contention with them was always on the primary plain of not believing circumcision was necessary. Had Paul or any of the gentile believers believed or taught that resting on the Sabbath was no longer obligatory, you can be sure that an outcry of wailing denunciation would have been heard from the Jews from every nation under heaven, with outbursts and curses of anathema against Paul for teaching such a heresy. The Sabbath was regarded far more sacred to the Jew than was circumcision or any other ceremonial practice for that matter. But no, the Jews not once brought up any objection concerning Sabbath breaking to Paul, the Apostles, or any of the Gentile believers. But they most certainly did concerning circumcision and the book of the law "after the manner of Moses."

#3. The 4th commandment "Sabbath" has no equation whatsoever in Paul's counsels. Rather "a sabbath which are SHADOWS of things to come." Shadows point forward to Christ's death and heavenly ministration, the 4th-commandment Sabbath points backward to Creation week. The rationale for keeping it is "FOR [because] the Lord made heaven and earth."
postroad

Canada

#15 Jan 11, 2012
No Doubt the Jewish Church did not view the Gentile believers as equals. You will notice that they instructed the Gentile believers to observe the Noahide restrictions. Which was no more and no less what the Jews expected every Gentile would and should observe.

The absolutely frowned upon the uncircumcised observing Jewish Law including the Sabbath for religious reasons.

Now if you wanted to be a full member there was a process for that. It involved first cutting off a part of your penis.

Genesis 17:12-14

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12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”

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#16 Jan 11, 2012
Lysimachus wrote:
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#1. Every believer was accustomed to keeping the Sabbath, that is why Paul did not raise Sabbath-breaking as a concern in his day.
#2. The Jews never once objected to Paul OR gentile believers for breaking the Sabbath. Their issue of contention with them was always on the primary plain of not believing circumcision was necessary.
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There are many scriptures that say that the Sabbath is not something to be concerned about anymore. Yet Paul's council is quite firm when it comes to fornication and greediness.

Consider: To do with Sabbaths

Col. 2:13-16:“[God] kindly forgave us all our trespasses and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us ... Therefore let no man judge you in eating and drinking or in respect of a festival or of an observance of the new moon or of a sabbath.”

Here it says let no man judge you to do with observing the Sabbath.

Gal 4:10,11 YOU are scrupulously observing days and months and seasons and years. I fear for YOU, that somehow I have toiled to no purpose respecting YOU.

Here Paul writes that he is fearful about people who observe days as if they think they can be saved by doing that anymore.

Romans 14:5 One [man] judges one day as above another; another [man] judges one day as all others; let each [man] be fully convinced in his own mind.

Here Paul is teaching that we can judge one day as all others without condemnation.

But look at the change of tone and command in these scriptures:-

(1 Corinthians 5:1-13) Actually fornication is reported among YOU, and such fornication as is not even among the nations, that a wife a certain [man] has of [his] father. 2 And are YOU puffed up, and did YOU not rather mourn, in order that the man that committed this deed should be taken away from YOUR midst? 3 I for one, although absent in body but present in spirit, have certainly judged already, as if I were present, the man who has worked in such a way as this, 4 that in the name of our Lord Jesus, when YOU are gathered together, also my spirit with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 YOU hand such a man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, in order that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord..........
9 In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, 10 not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world. 11 But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. 12 For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do YOU not judge those inside, 13 while God judges those outside?“Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.”

Also look what the holy spirit says is necessary:-

Acts 15:28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”

There is a big difference in Paul's council on Sabbaths which he tells us are not necessary to observe anymore and things like fornication and greediness. Also do you notice what the bible says about Blood? We are to abstain from it still as Blood is sacred to Jehovah still. Hence the reason why I will not have a Blood transfusion and will seek better more healthier alternatives due to my respect for Blood which in the case of Jesus has the power to save me.

Luke 9:24 For whoever wants to save his soul will lose it; but whoever loses his soul for my sake is the one that will save it.

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#17 Jan 11, 2012
CMWYW wrote:
<quoted text>
There are many scriptures that say that the Sabbath is not something to be concerned about anymore. Yet Paul's council is quite firm when it comes to fornication and greediness.
Consider: To do with Sabbaths
Col. 2:13-16:“[God] kindly forgave us all our trespasses and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us ... Therefore let no man judge you in eating and drinking or in respect of a festival or of an observance of the new moon or of a sabbath.”
Here it says let no man judge you to do with observing the Sabbath.
Gal 4:10,11 YOU are scrupulously observing days and months and seasons and years. I fear for YOU, that somehow I have toiled to no purpose respecting YOU.
Here Paul writes that he is fearful about people who observe days as if they think they can be saved by doing that anymore.
Romans 14:5 One [man] judges one day as above another; another [man] judges one day as all others; let each [man] be fully convinced in his own mind.
Here Paul is teaching that we can judge one day as all others without condemnation.
But look at the change of tone and command in these scriptures:-
(1 Corinthians 5:1-13) Actually fornication is reported among YOU, and such fornication as is not even among the nations, that a wife a certain [man] has of [his] father. 2 And are YOU puffed up, and did YOU not rather mourn, in order that the man that committed this deed should be taken away from YOUR midst? 3 I for one, although absent in body but present in spirit, have certainly judged already, as if I were present, the man who has worked in such a way as this, 4 that in the name of our Lord Jesus, when YOU are gathered together, also my spirit with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 YOU hand such a man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, in order that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord..........
9 In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, 10 not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world. 11 But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. 12 For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do YOU not judge those inside, 13 while God judges those outside?“Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.”
Also look what the holy spirit says is necessary:-
Acts 15:28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”
There is a big difference in Paul's council on Sabbaths which he tells us are not necessary to observe anymore and things like fornication and greediness. Also do you notice what the bible says about Blood? We are to abstain from it still as Blood is sacred to Jehovah still. Hence the reason why I will not have a Blood transfusion and will seek better more healthier alternatives due to my respect for Blood which in the case of Jesus has the power to save me.
Luke 9:24 For whoever wants to save his soul will lose it; but whoever loses his soul for my sake is the one that will save it.
It is of some interest that what the Disciples instructed the Gentile believers matches the Noahide restrictions. Which Jews held as binding for all Gentiles and in no way brought one into the fellowship of Judaism.

The Jewish church must have considered the Gentile church as a second class citizen of the kingdom.

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#18 Jan 11, 2012
CMWYW wrote:
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There are many scriptures that say that the Sabbath is not something to be concerned about anymore. Yet Paul's council is quite firm when it comes to fornication and greediness.
There is not one scripture that says such a thing.
CMWYW wrote:
Consider: To do with Sabbaths
Col. 2:13-16:“[God] kindly forgave us all our trespasses and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us ... Therefore let no man judge you in eating and drinking or in respect of a festival or of an observance of the new moon or of a sabbath.”
Here it says let no man judge you to do with observing the Sabbath.
This has nothing to do with the Seventh-Day Sabbath. It has to do with the annual feasts--Day of Atonement, Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of Tabernacles, Feast of Trumpets, etc. etc. These were all called "sabbaths", and Paul is mirroring Hosea 2:11, concerning "her sabbaths" (Israel's sabbaths), not "THE Sabbath of the Lord".

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#19 Jan 11, 2012
CMWYW wrote:
Gal 4:10,11 YOU are scrupulously observing days and months and seasons and years. I fear for YOU, that somehow I have toiled to no purpose respecting YOU.
Here Paul writes that he is fearful about people who observe days as if they think they can be saved by doing that anymore.
Nothing to do with the 4th commandment Sabbath. These were regarding holidays men esteem, not what day God esteems. All had to do with the ceremonial feast days Paul is referring to here. Nothing to do with the Ten Commandments or THE Sabbath.
CMWYW wrote:
Romans 14:5 One [man] judges one day as above another; another [man] judges one day as all others; let each [man] be fully convinced in his own mind.
Here Paul is teaching that we can judge one day as all others without condemnation.
Once again, this has to do with which days "men esteem". The Sabbath is esteemed only by God. It is HIS day that he wants us to join with Him in rest. This is a day that "God esteems".

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#20 Jan 11, 2012
CMWYW wrote:
But look at the change of tone and command in these scriptures:-
(1 Corinthians 5:1-13) Actually fornication is reported among YOU, and such fornication as is not even among the nations, that a wife a certain [man] has of [his] father. 2 And are YOU puffed up, and did YOU not rather mourn, in order that the man that committed this deed should be taken away from YOUR midst? 3 I for one, although absent in body but present in spirit, have certainly judged already, as if I were present, the man who has worked in such a way as this, 4 that in the name of our Lord Jesus, when YOU are gathered together, also my spirit with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 YOU hand such a man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, in order that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord..........
9 In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, 10 not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world. 11 But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. 12 For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do YOU not judge those inside, 13 while God judges those outside?“Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.”
Also look what the holy spirit says is necessary:-
Acts 15:28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”
There is a big difference in Paul's council on Sabbaths which he tells us are not necessary to observe anymore and things like fornication and greediness. Also do you notice what the bible says about Blood? We are to abstain from it still as Blood is sacred to Jehovah still. Hence the reason why I will not have a Blood transfusion and will seek better more healthier alternatives due to my respect for Blood which in the case of Jesus has the power to save me.
Luke 9:24 For whoever wants to save his soul will lose it; but whoever loses his soul for my sake is the one that will save it.
Luke 23:56 is very clear that resting on the Sabbath, according to Luke 37 years after the event, was "ACCORDING to the commandment". No Ifs, Ands, or Buts about it.:)

Acts 15 is only dealing with ADDITIONAL requirements to the Moral Law. Obviously Paul knew that the Gentiles already knew concerning the basics of "Thou shalt not Kill", "Thou Shalt not Steal", "Honour your Father and Mother", "Thou shalt not bear false witness", "thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain", etc. etc.

Those requirements were in ADDITION to all these things, not the "ONLY" requirements.

The fact that Paul gathered together with them every Sabbath according to Acts 13, 17 and 18 is proof of the fact that Sabbath keeping was a common practice among the Gentiles.

The majority of Christians throughout the world kept the Sabbath for the next 3 centuries after that, except for the Church Fathers located in Rome and Alexanderia--the two bedrocks of Paganism. But those Churches which were IMITATORS of those in Judea were the ones that were "In Christ Jesus" (1 Thess 2:14).

According to Isaiah 66, all flesh will come to worship before the Lord every Sabbath, and every month in the New Earth. It only makes sense that the validity of the Sabbath exists between the Old Creation and the New Creation in the New Covenant Era.

The Sabbath is the flag, or distinguishing mark of the Believer in the Almighty that sets him apart from the Pagan and worshipers of all other gods.

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