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Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#1 Dec 8, 2012
Nowhere in scripture, in God's Holy Word, does God tell us,
Adam and Eve kept a sabbath. This is a Fact.

This teaching is a creation by assumption. Man made doctrine. It is dangerous.The practice of assumption theology, allows man to create his own doctrine.

True doctrine of the Lord's is created by scripture.

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Therefore, where is the very first time we see God issuing a sabbath. Exodus 16

22 And so it was, on the sixth day, that they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for each one. And all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.

(note: here God is teaching Israel what a sabbath is, for they did not know Gods stipulations of a sabbath, they had to be taught to gather and store things for ahead of time for a sabbath and to not work on a sabbath, and to GO HOME on a sabbath)

23 Then he said to them,“This is what the Lord has said:‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.’”

24 So they laid it up till morning, as Moses commanded; and it did not stink, nor were there any worms in it. 25 Then Moses said,“Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the Lord; today you will not find it in the field. 26 Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be none.”

( Note, the first time someone breached Gods sabbath is verse 27
which supports, the first time the Israeli man received a sabbath command to be subject to a breach of some kind.)

27 Now it happened that some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather, but they found none. 28 And the Lord said to Moses,“How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My laws?

( Now right here, God states;

SEE....SEE...SEE, for the Lord has given you a sabbath,
indicates without a doubt, it was the very first time the Israeli man was given a sabbath)

29 See! For the Lord has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

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Now, what is the Hebrew meaning of the Word....SEE ?

it means to consider, to look at

Strong's Number: 7200 h)r
Original Word Word Origin
h)r a primitive root
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Ra'ah raw-aw'
Parts of Speech TWOT
Verb 2095
Definition


to see, look at, inspect, perceive, consider

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For this was the very first time the Israeli man ever saw or considered a sabbath from the Lord thy God...Exodus 16

moreover;

The Covenant, the Ten Commandments and the Sabbath COVENANT was NEVER EVER given prior to Horeb.

5 And Moses called all Israel, and said to them:“Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your hearing today, that you may learn them and be careful to observe them.

2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive. Deut 5
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#2 Dec 8, 2012
Then God gives the Ten Commandments to Israel Ex 19

and then God establishes the Sabbath Covenant LAW

The Sabbath Law

12 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 13 “Speak also to the children of Israel, saying:‘Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 14 You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the Sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16 Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.’”
Ex 31

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These COVENANTS had to be agreed to, by the people

Ex 19:5-8

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These COVENANTS were NEVER EVER given to any other people, nation of the face of the earth

except Israel

Ps 147:19,20 Deut 4:13 Deut 7:6 Eph 2:12
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#3 Dec 8, 2012
By the scriptures, Abraham was NEVER EVER given those COVENANTS listed in the above posts,

for the scriptures CLEARLY say so;

16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say,“And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one,“And to your Seed,” who is Christ.

17 And this I say, that the law(the Ten Commandments), which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ,that it should make the promise of no effect. Gal 3

The Law of Moses, the Ten Commandments, was given 430 years after Abraham existed.

Abraham was never given a Sabbath Covenant, per the scriptures.

Do you understand this...per the scriptures?
yoyo

United States

#4 Dec 8, 2012
Genesis 8:10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;

Genesis 8:12 And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
yoyo

United States

#5 Dec 8, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
SEE....SEE...SEE, for the Lord has given you a sabbath,
indicates without a doubt, it was the very first time the Israeli man was given a sabbath)
Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath

Jesus = creator, Jesus made sabbath for MANkind not just JEWS...later

This is why PAUL let the GENTILES come back a whole week later to hear him... ACTS 13:44

Sabbath trashers are victims of SATANIC theologians
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#6 Dec 8, 2012
yoyo wrote:
Genesis 8:10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;
Genesis 8:12 And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
You are an example of creating facts by assumptions

please stop

It is only by scriptual "fact" that one is to be guided, directed,
led.
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#7 Dec 8, 2012
yoyo wrote:
<quoted text>
Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath
Jesus = creator, Jesus made sabbath for MANkind not just JEWS...later
This is why PAUL let the GENTILES come back a whole week later to hear him... ACTS 13:44
Sabbath trashers are victims of SATANIC theologians
Here, you can't even stay of the issue.

When was the first time God issued a Sabbath?

Try again....focus..you can do it.

By scripture only.....when was the first time God issued the ISRAELI MAN a sabbath?
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#8 Dec 8, 2012
Gal 3:17 which states the law ( the Ten Commandments) were not given during Abraham's time

as well as

Deut 5:3 which states the law( the Ten Commandments, the Covenants) were not given prior to Horeb

The Ten Commandments were issued by God 430 years after Abraham Gal 3:17 Deut 5;3

Now, what did ellen teach?
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#9 Dec 8, 2012
again anyone....you now know the Bible in this regard

but of those who just go by ellen

well what did ellen teach you?

Gal 3:17 which states the law ( the Ten Commandments) were not given during Abraham's time

as well as

Deut 5:3 which states the law( the Ten Commandments, the Covenants) were not given prior to Horeb

The Ten Commandments were issued by God 430 years after Abraham Gal 3:17 Deut 5;3
birdman

Mattoon, IL

#10 Dec 8, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
Nowhere in scripture, in God's Holy Word, does God tell us,
Adam and Eve kept a sabbath. This is a Fact.
This teaching is a creation by assumption. Man made doctrine. It is dangerous.The practice of assumption theology, allows man to create his own doctrine.
True doctrine of the Lord's is created by scripture.
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Therefore, where is the very first time we see God issuing a sabbath. Exodus 16
22 And so it was, on the sixth day, that they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for each one. And all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
(note: here God is teaching Israel what a sabbath is, for they did not know Gods stipulations of a sabbath, they had to be taught to gather and store things for ahead of time for a sabbath and to not work on a sabbath, and to GO HOME on a sabbath)
23 Then he said to them,“This is what the Lord has said:‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.’”
24 So they laid it up till morning, as Moses commanded; and it did not stink, nor were there any worms in it. 25 Then Moses said,“Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the Lord; today you will not find it in the field. 26 Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be none.”
( Note, the first time someone breached Gods sabbath is verse 27
which supports, the first time the Israeli man received a sabbath command to be subject to a breach of some kind.)
27 Now it happened that some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather, but they found none. 28 And the Lord said to Moses,“How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My laws?
( Now right here, God states;
SEE....SEE...SEE, for the Lord has given you a sabbath,
indicates without a doubt, it was the very first time the Israeli man was given a sabbath)
29 See! For the Lord has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.
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Now, what is the Hebrew meaning of the Word....SEE ?
it means to consider, to look at
Strong's Number: 7200 h)r
Original Word Word Origin
h)r a primitive root
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Ra'ah raw-aw'
Parts of Speech TWOT
Verb 2095
Definition
to see, look at, inspect, perceive, consider
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For this was the very first time the Israeli man ever saw or considered a sabbath from the Lord thy God...Exodus 16
moreover;
The Covenant, the Ten Commandments and the Sabbath COVENANT was NEVER EVER given prior to Horeb.
5 And Moses called all Israel, and said to them:“Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your hearing today, that you may learn them and be careful to observe them.
2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive. Deut 5
SHADRACH IS a LIAR and TWISTER of SCRIPTURE

Since: Sep 12

Clarkston, Wa.

#11 Dec 8, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
<quoted text>
Here, you can't even stay of the issue.
When was the first time God issued a Sabbath?
Try again....focus..you can do it.
By scripture only.....when was the first time God issued the ISRAELI MAN a sabbath?
So now you changed from when God made sabbath to when did God make sabbath for the Israeli man? Look at the calandra and tell the readers what the 1st day is and what the 7th day is please? Thankyou have a nice day sabbath trasher

Since: Sep 12

Clarkston, Wa.

#12 Dec 8, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
Nowhere in scripture, in God's Holy Word, does God tell us,
Adam and Eve kept a sabbath. This is a Fact.
This teaching is a creation by assumption. Man made doctrine. It is dangerous.The practice of assumption theology, allows man to create his own doctrine.
True doctrine of the Lord's is created by scripture.
----------
Therefore, where is the very first time we see God issuing a sabbath. Exodus 16
22 And so it was, on the sixth day, that they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for each one. And all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
(note: here God is teaching Israel what a sabbath is, for they did not know Gods stipulations of a sabbath, they had to be taught to gather and store things for ahead of time for a sabbath and to not work on a sabbath, and to GO HOME on a sabbath)
23 Then he said to them,“This is what the Lord has said:‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.’”
24 So they laid it up till morning, as Moses commanded; and it did not stink, nor were there any worms in it. 25 Then Moses said,“Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the Lord; today you will not find it in the field. 26 Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be none.”
( Note, the first time someone breached Gods sabbath is verse 27
which supports, the first time the Israeli man received a sabbath command to be subject to a breach of some kind.)
27 Now it happened that some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather, but they found none. 28 And the Lord said to Moses,“How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My laws?
( Now right here, God states;
SEE....SEE...SEE, for the Lord has given you a sabbath,
indicates without a doubt, it was the very first time the Israeli man was given a sabbath)
29 See! For the Lord has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.
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Now, what is the Hebrew meaning of the Word....SEE ?
it means to consider, to look at
Strong's Number: 7200 h)r
Original Word Word Origin
h)r a primitive root
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Ra'ah raw-aw'
Parts of Speech TWOT
Verb 2095
Definition
to see, look at, inspect, perceive, consider
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For this was the very first time the Israeli man ever saw or considered a sabbath from the Lord thy God...Exodus 16
moreover;
The Covenant, the Ten Commandments and the Sabbath COVENANT was NEVER EVER given prior to Horeb.
5 And Moses called all Israel, and said to them:“Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your hearing today, that you may learn them and be careful to observe them.
2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive. Deut 5
Gen 2:3

Since: Sep 12

Clarkston, Wa.

#13 Dec 8, 2012
birdman wrote:
<quoted text>
SHADRACH IS a LIAR and TWISTER of SCRIPTURE
Yes yes he is, tru dat birdman tru dat
Pioneer

United States

#14 Dec 8, 2012
Shadrach/POC

Look for years you have gone about to trash the Sabbath you have never gotten one Sabbath keeper to convert to your messed up sunday keeping on this forum.

Granny thru out the baby with the bath water but you did not convert her she's messed up all by herself.

You have truly wasted years give it up and give all Sabbath keepers a break. There is to much more for you and Sabbath keepers to know and understand. the keeping of the Sabbath will not save anyone that is not why it is to be kept. Get it? It is for the love of God but you and SDA have missed so much more on here for the last few years you and they snooze in your existence.

A person is not required to worship on Sunday, so why do you so strain at that gnat while you swallow a camel?

Since: Sep 12

Clarkston, Wa.

#15 Dec 8, 2012
Pioneer wrote:
Shadrach/POC
Look for years you have gone about to trash the Sabbath you have never gotten one Sabbath keeper to convert to your messed up sunday keeping on this forum.
Granny thru out the baby with the bath water but you did not convert her she's messed up all by herself.
You have truly wasted years give it up and give all Sabbath keepers a break. There is to much more for you and Sabbath keepers to know and understand. the keeping of the Sabbath will not save anyone that is not why it is to be kept. Get it? It is for the love of God but you and SDA have missed so much more on here for the last few years you and they snooze in your existence.
A person is not required to worship on Sunday, so why do you so strain at that gnat while you swallow a camel?
Good post here
Robert Two

Port Pirie, Australia

#16 Dec 8, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
Nowhere in scripture, in God's Holy Word, does God tell us,
Adam and Eve kept a sabbath. This is a Fact.
This teaching is a creation by assumption. Man made doctrine. It is dangerous.The practice of assumption theology, allows man to create his own doctrine.
True doctrine of the Lord's is created by scripture.
----------
Therefore, where is the very first time we see God issuing a sabbath. Exodus 16
22 And so it was, on the sixth day, that they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for each one. And all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
(note: here God is teaching Israel what a sabbath is, for they did not know Gods stipulations of a sabbath, they had to be taught to gather and store things for ahead of time for a sabbath and to not work on a sabbath, and to GO HOME on a sabbath)
23 Then he said to them,“This is what the Lord has said:‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.’”
24 So they laid it up till morning, as Moses commanded; and it did not stink, nor were there any worms in it. 25 Then Moses said,“Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the Lord; today you will not find it in the field. 26 Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be none.”
( Note, the first time someone breached Gods sabbath is verse 27
which supports, the first time the Israeli man received a sabbath command to be subject to a breach of some kind.)
27 Now it happened that some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather, but they found none. 28 And the Lord said to Moses,“How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My laws?
( Now right here, God states;
SEE....SEE...SEE, for the Lord has given you a sabbath,
indicates without a doubt, it was the very first time the Israeli man was given a sabbath)
29 See! For the Lord has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.
----------
Now, what is the Hebrew meaning of the Word....SEE ?
it means to consider, to look at
Strong's Number: 7200 h)r
Original Word Word Origin
h)r a primitive root
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Ra'ah raw-aw'
Parts of Speech TWOT
Verb 2095
Definition
to see, look at, inspect, perceive, consider
----------
For this was the very first time the Israeli man ever saw or considered a sabbath from the Lord thy God...Exodus 16
moreover;
The Covenant, the Ten Commandments and the Sabbath COVENANT was NEVER EVER given prior to Horeb.
5 And Moses called all Israel, and said to them:“Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your hearing today, that you may learn them and be careful to observe them.
2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive. Deut 5
GOD walked and talked to ADAM. What did he say to ADAM?
Because GOD never wrote in the BIBLE what he told ADAM does that mean it was a LIE ?
Assuming things like ADAM never kept the SABBATH when the SABBATH WAS MAN FOR MAN NOT MAN FOR THE SABBATH is an open statement .
In the order of CREATION.
In the ORDER of Creation GOD made everything required for what was created FIRST. Then what was intended was created.
But SABBATH was created after MAN but FOR MAN. A special gift to mankind.
Robert Two

Port Pirie, Australia

#17 Dec 8, 2012
Pioneer wrote:
Shadrach/POC
Look for years you have gone about to trash the Sabbath you have never gotten one Sabbath keeper to convert to your messed up sunday keeping on this forum.
Granny thru out the baby with the bath water but you did not convert her she's messed up all by herself.
You have truly wasted years give it up and give all Sabbath keepers a break. There is to much more for you and Sabbath keepers to know and understand. the keeping of the Sabbath will not save anyone that is not why it is to be kept. Get it? It is for the love of God but you and SDA have missed so much more on here for the last few years you and they snooze in your existence.
A person is not required to worship on Sunday, so why do you so strain at that gnat while you swallow a camel?
CIVIL and amazing !
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#18 Dec 9, 2012
Now, notice TEN replies all based on assumptions, these people base their religion on mans asumptions

not the Divine Word of God

none of these people will stand of scripture
none of these people will uphold scripture
none even thought of supporting the scriptures which
flat out tell us who and why God gave Israel the Sabbath and no other people

they have taken the way of man

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When Christ comes back, will He find anyone on erath who abides soley in Him?
jonebgood

Abbotsford, Canada

#19 Dec 9, 2012
IF this fourum was to glorify and eshalt Jesus Chrisst as LOrd and Saiour instead of the sabbath, then the demonos would flee fom this forum.by th droves. Shad has not trahed the sabbath he istrying to present Christ rathee than law. you answer with trash talk.
Robert Two

Australia

#20 Dec 9, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
Now, notice TEN replies all based on assumptions, these people base their religion on mans asumptions
not the Divine Word of God
none of these people will stand of scripture
none of these people will uphold scripture
none even thought of supporting the scriptures which
flat out tell us who and why God gave Israel the Sabbath and no other people
they have taken the way of man
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When Christ comes back, will He find anyone on erath who abides soley in Him?
Only the saints will be alive when JESUS arrives above the earth.

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