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Why did he resign from 3ABN? What is going on there? Mischif?
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dui? money?

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pastor doug resign from 3abn? what are you talking about?

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Or... Maybe He found The Truth, and couldn't bear to stay! I'm praying for that option.

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Well who is Pastor Doug? U mean Doug Batchelor? I didnt know he was with 3abn. 3abn is indeed quite a melodrama. Doug Batchelor is with Amazing Facts.
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David Koot wrote:
Well who is Pastor Doug? U mean Doug Batchelor? I didnt know he was with 3abn. 3abn is indeed quite a melodrama. Doug Batchelor is with Amazing Facts.
To all readers.

Pastor Doug Batchelor is a FALSE WITNESS of SATAN and a SPIRITUAL LIAR!! You have all been WARNED!! He teaches that SATAN is the FINAL SIN BEARER for his sins!! The Bible & EGW says are SINS are BLOTTED OUT!! EGW said her jesus started blotting out the SINS of the SDA people from 22nd Oct 1844!! So how is the jesus of SDA's going to place their SINS on their KING SATAN if they have been blotted out?? Can just ONE EGW lover answer this spiritual question plz??

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David Koot wrote:
Well who is Pastor Doug? U mean Doug Batchelor? I didnt know he was with 3abn. 3abn is indeed quite a melodrama. Doug Batchelor is with Amazing Facts.
I heard somwhere that the two were merging (3ABN and AF). Not sure whether that's fact or rumor. Anybody know?

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<quoted text>I heard somwhere that the two were merging (3ABN and AF). Not sure whether that's fact or rumor. Anybody know?
Heard about that one. The merger was called off by Amazing Facts because of the Danny Shelton divorce drama--or so I heard. A sticky wicket indeed. Danny Shelton WAS head of 3abn, and the very visible front man for the ministry. He divorced his wife, then very, very quickly married someone else, had the wedding in Guam, and the speed of the remarriage, immediately after the divorce, caused alarm bells to go off.

Such melodrama!

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David Koot wrote:
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Heard about that one. The merger was called off by Amazing Facts because of the Danny Shelton divorce drama--or so I heard. A sticky wicket indeed. Danny Shelton WAS head of 3abn, and the very visible front man for the ministry. He divorced his wife, then very, very quickly married someone else, had the wedding in Guam, and the speed of the remarriage, immediately after the divorce, caused alarm bells to go off.
Such melodrama!
Health problems, INDEED! And to think I stood up for the guy because I felt we all should MYOB (which actually, we should!), but I had no idea what the underlying issue was. I felt sorry for the guy, thinking he had some life-threatening illness and everyone was conjecturing about this and that that might be happening. Oh well...

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<quoted text>Health problems, INDEED! And to think I stood up for the guy because I felt we all should MYOB (which actually, we should!), but I had no idea what the underlying issue was. I felt sorry for the guy, thinking he had some life-threatening illness and everyone was conjecturing about this and that that might be happening. Oh well...
Oh, sorry, that was one of the other media ministries, I think It is Written. That was Shawn Boonstra who mentioned health problems, apparently.

As for 3abn, yeah, I mentioned the divorce info because it was very public, in fact Danny Shelton seems to have made a good number of statements asserting the rightness of his actions. The stated fact is that he claims to have suspected his wife of 'spiritual adultery' and moved quickly to divorce her. Prior to the divorce, he had brought another, younger woman onto the staff of 3abn. Before his US divorce from his wife was final, he flew to Guam with the younger woman and married her in Guam.

As for the merits of either side, I would not know and it is none of my business. But the HUGE issue is the haste with which Shelton married a younger woman who he had brought onboard as staff before he divorced Linda for 'spiritual adultery.'

This all was quite publicized by Shelton and 3abn, so I felt okay in mentioning the stuff.

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David Koot wrote:
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Oh, sorry, that was one of the other media ministries, I think It is Written. That was Shawn Boonstra who mentioned health problems, apparently.
As for 3abn, yeah, I mentioned the divorce info because it was very public, in fact Danny Shelton seems to have made a good number of statements asserting the rightness of his actions. The stated fact is that he claims to have suspected his wife of 'spiritual adultery' and moved quickly to divorce her. Prior to the divorce, he had brought another, younger woman onto the staff of 3abn. Before his US divorce from his wife was final, he flew to Guam with the younger woman and married her in Guam.
As for the merits of either side, I would not know and it is none of my business. But the HUGE issue is the haste with which Shelton married a younger woman who he had brought onboard as staff before he divorced Linda for 'spiritual adultery.'
This all was quite publicized by Shelton and 3abn, so I felt okay in mentioning the stuff.
Aaah, you are correct - I was thinking of Shawn Boonstra. Oldzheimers (similar to Alzheimers, it sometimes strikes us old folks!)

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<quoted text>Aaah, you are correct - I was thinking of Shawn Boonstra. Oldzheimers (similar to Alzheimers, it sometimes strikes us old folks!)
LOLOL yes I understand. I too have memory issues, especially for names and details.
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LOLOL yes I understand. I too have memory issues, especially for names and details.
BUT again--WHO is this "Pastor Doug"? Please identify!
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Pastor Doug is Doug Batchelor, who is the keynote speaker for Amazing Facts. Amazing Facts is an independent ministry of the SDA church.

Doug used to be a caveman but he came across a Bible in his cave and soon discovered Adventism.

Pr Doug is a dedicated, spirit filled man who has an ability to present Bible truths in a very clear and easy to understand manner. He has a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures and is able to field questions on a broad range of subjects.

You should have not trouble finding lots of videos, sermons and info about him on the web.

By the way, if he did resign from 3ABN it happened years ago, so it's not news.
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David Koot wrote:
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Heard about that one. The merger was called off by Amazing Facts because of the Danny Shelton divorce drama--or so I heard. A sticky wicket indeed. Danny Shelton WAS head of 3abn, and the very visible front man for the ministry. He divorced his wife, then very, very quickly married someone else, had the wedding in Guam, and the speed of the remarriage, immediately after the divorce, caused alarm bells to go off.
Such melodrama!
David Koot is he the forums Danny Shelton? Should he really be so mouthy about that should he talk?
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To all readers.
Pastor Doug Batchelor is a FALSE WITNESS of SATAN and a SPIRITUAL LIAR!! You have all been WARNED!! He teaches that SATAN is the FINAL SIN BEARER for his sins!! The Bible & EGW says are SINS are BLOTTED OUT!! EGW said her jesus started blotting out the SINS of the SDA people from 22nd Oct 1844!! So how is the jesus of SDA's going to place their SINS on their KING SATAN if they have been blotted out?? Can just ONE EGW lover answer this spiritual question plz??
Dan
It would be very helpful if you understood about the Sanctuary services. Nevertheless, prayerfully the following will help to answer your question. The blotting out has to do with the sins that we've committed -- those sins that are listed in the Heavenly records. Acts 3:19 tells us to repent and be converted that those sins may be blotted out when the times of refreshing shall come.

Those of us who believe in Jesus accept the sacrifice that He made for us on the cross as the payment of the debt we owe for sinning (for the wages of sin is death Romans 6:23). He died to pay for our sins. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. Our Sacrifice.

Now, as our High Priest He has entered into the Most Holy Place of the Heavenly Sanctuary (as the Earthly High Priest did) and is interceding and pleading the blood He shed on Calvary for us to make us at one with God (John 17:11). Thus His blood covers our sins or blots our sins from the Heavenly records because of what Jesus did at the cross and what He is currently doing.

Those who choose to believe otherwise, those who don't believe in Jesus or the sacrifice or the work He's done for us are welcome to make that choice. There is freedom in serving the Lord. Those who chose otherwise choose to have their sins remain in the records and to pay their own debt for the sins they've committed. Their debt remains and is not blotted out of the Heavenly records. Death is required for sin still.

Even now, while Jesus is performing His work in the Heavenly Sanctuary we still have the opportunity to continue sinning if we choose -- but He gives us power to overcome even our desire to sin if we accept this power by faith. He will not take away our freedom of choice. However, when Jesus is finally finished the work and everyone has had the opportunity to choose sin or salvation and has actually made their ultimate choice there is nothing left for Jesus do in the Heavenly Sanctuary. Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be (including Satan).

He will therefore leave the courts of the Heavenly sanctuary, probation for the world will close and He will then transfer the sins (reward) He bore on Calvary to its rightful owner, Satan (represented as the scapegoat of the Earthly Sanctuary, Leviticus 16:8-10), the originator of sin (John 8:44) who will finally pay the price he owes and will reap the results of all the pain and suffering he has caused from the very beginning.

When Jesus comes the second time He will bear no sin because sin will be transferred to that old devil. Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Thus sin will not only be blotted out from the people, the earth, and the books of heaven, but ultimately from the entire universe. Sin will never be found in the Earth and Heavens made new.

Maranatha!
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David Koot wrote:
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Heard about that one. The merger was called off by Amazing Facts because of the Danny Shelton divorce drama--or so I heard. A sticky wicket indeed. Danny Shelton WAS head of 3abn, and the very visible front man for the ministry. He divorced his wife, then very, very quickly married someone else, had the wedding in Guam, and the speed of the remarriage, immediately after the divorce, caused alarm bells to go off.
Such melodrama!
Yep! He is wilfully living in sin! Imagine that!
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Noimmy wrote:
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It would be very helpful if you understood about the Sanctuary services. Nevertheless, prayerfully the following will help to answer your question. The blotting out has to do with the sins that we've committed -- those sins that are listed in the Heavenly records. Acts 3:19 tells us to repent and be converted that those sins may be blotted out when the times of refreshing shall come.
Those of us who believe in Jesus accept the sacrifice that He made for us on the cross as the payment of the debt we owe for sinning (for the wages of sin is death Romans 6:23). He died to pay for our sins. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. Our Sacrifice.
Now, as our High Priest He has entered into the Most Holy Place of the Heavenly Sanctuary (as the Earthly High Priest did) and is interceding and pleading the blood He shed on Calvary for us to make us at one with God (John 17:11). Thus His blood covers our sins or blots our sins from the Heavenly records because of what Jesus did at the cross and what He is currently doing.
Those who choose to believe otherwise, those who don't believe in Jesus or the sacrifice or the work He's done for us are welcome to make that choice. There is freedom in serving the Lord. Those who chose otherwise choose to have their sins remain in the records and to pay their own debt for the sins they've committed. Their debt remains and is not blotted out of the Heavenly records. Death is required for sin still.
Even now, while Jesus is performing His work in the Heavenly Sanctuary we still have the opportunity to continue sinning if we choose -- but He gives us power to overcome even our desire to sin if we accept this power by faith. He will not take away our freedom of choice. However, when Jesus is finally finished the work and everyone has had the opportunity to choose sin or salvation and has actually made their ultimate choice there is nothing left for Jesus do in the Heavenly Sanctuary. Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be (including Satan).
He will therefore leave the courts of the Heavenly sanctuary, probation for the world will close and He will then transfer the sins (reward) He bore on Calvary to its rightful owner, Satan (represented as the scapegoat of the Earthly Sanctuary, Leviticus 16:8-10), the originator of sin (John 8:44) who will finally pay the price he owes and will reap the results of all the pain and suffering he has caused from the very beginning.
When Jesus comes the second time He will bear no sin because sin will be transferred to that old devil. Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Thus sin will not only be blotted out from the people, the earth, and the books of heaven, but ultimately from the entire universe. Sin will never be found in the Earth and Heavens made new.
Maranatha!
False doctrine! Satan does not bare our sin and never will! Through Jesus, sin has already been condemned in the flesh!
For the believer, the sin deal from God's perspective, IS DONE!
That's why we, who walk in the Spirit (Luke 11:13), are under no condemnation!!! AT ALL!!!!!!!!!
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Noimmy wrote:
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It would be very helpful if you understood about the Sanctuary services. Nevertheless, prayerfully the following will help to answer your question. The blotting out has to do with the sins that we've committed -- those sins that are listed in the Heavenly records. Acts 3:19 tells us to repent and be converted that those sins may be blotted out when the times of refreshing shall come.
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Noimmy.

Your messenger EGW of the "LESSER LIGHT" said her jesus BEGAN to BLOT OUT sins in Oct 1844 in Great Controversy page 486. This means her jesus did NOT wait for ACT 3: 19 to be fullfilled or is ACTS 3: 19 written by a SPIRITUAL LIAR??
Tell me is ACTS 3: 19 still in the future it was it fullfilled in your opinion?
Google>> great controversy page 486
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Noimmy wrote:
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It would be very helpful if you understood about the Sanctuary services. Nevertheless, prayerfully the following will help to answer your question. The blotting out has to do with the sins that we've committed -- those sins that are listed in the Heavenly records. Acts 3:19 tells us to repent and be converted that those sins may be blotted out when the times of refreshing shall come.
Those of us who believe in Jesus accept the sacrifice that He made for us on the cross as the payment of the debt we owe for sinning (for the wages of sin is death Romans 6:23). He died to pay for our sins. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. Our Sacrifice.
Now, as our High Priest He has entered into the Most Holy Place of the Heavenly Sanctuary (as the Earthly High Priest did) and is interceding and pleading the blood He shed on Calvary for us to make us at one with God (John 17:11). Thus His blood covers our sins or blots our sins from the Heavenly records because of what Jesus did at the cross and what He is currently doing.
Those who choose to believe otherwise, those who don't believe in Jesus or the sacrifice or the work He's done for us are welcome to make that choice. There is freedom in serving the Lord. Those who chose otherwise choose to have their sins remain in the records and to pay their own debt for the sins they've committed.!
The BIBLE says in ISAIAH 43: 25 GOD has BLOTTED out all the redeemed SINS and REMEMBERS THEM NO MORE!!
Do you accept this yes or no? If you answer yes? then please tell me how does your EGW jesus locate those BLOTTED OUT SINS to place on SATAN'S HEAD?

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