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DANNO

London, UK

#1 Aug 1, 2012
Why did God allow SATAN to remove some Bible Verse?

Some say the Bible has 66 Books only.What do you say and why?

I Say NOT all the NT books were inspired by GOD! because there are verses removed.

Why did SATAN leave out 3rd Corinthians & Daniel 13 from your Bible or was it GOD?

Why Did God ALLOW SATAN sevants to plant WEEDS in the Bible?? Matt 13: 24-26

Why Did SATAN allow PAUL to attack Peter in Gal 2 ?

Why only LUKE remained with PAUL in 2nd Tim 4: 11

Why is there NO seats for Paul & Barnabas in REV 21: 14 & Matt 19: 28

Why doe's ACTS 14: 14 say Barnabas is an APOSTLE and LUKE & MATTHEW say HE WAS NOT?? Matt 10: 2-4 & Luke 6: 12-19

So , who is brave enough to answer the FIRST 5 points of this post to biggin with?

Dan
birdman

Arthur, IL

#2 Aug 1, 2012
Post one is GARBAGE thru and thru
Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#3 Aug 1, 2012
birdman wrote:
Post one is GARBAGE thru and thru
Of course you would say this because you don't want to contemplate the consequences to your belief system is you answered any one of them. The answers would damage your pre-existing and unchallenged position that the entire Bible is the 'word of God' from cover to cover, and that is an untenable position for any Christian.

If you don't want to answer any of Danno's questions then at least have the courage to tell all of us why you believe the way you do about the Bible, and what your proofs are for your beliefs. This is a discussion forum not one in which you can make assertions without ever having those assertions challenged. If that is what you are looking for go over to Adventist Forum, they would love to have another easy mark.
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#4 Aug 1, 2012
birdman wrote:
Post one is GARBAGE thru and thru
Not so: The Church View:
In the Catholic Church the version used is the Douay-Rheims Bible consisting of 73 books. In the Protestant church only the 66 books approved by the Archbishop of Canterbury in 1885, which today is known as the Authorized King James Bible, are used. No other books, neither the Apocrypha, which was included in the original King James Bible, nor the 22 books mentioned or quoted in the King James Bible, are considered inspired.

The Bible View:
There was no specific list or accounting of all the books that made up the Bible until the commission of the first Bible by the Emperor Constantine in the 4th Century AD. The books that make up the Authorized King James Bible were chosen by men, not divine forces. The language of the King James Bible is obscure and limited.

An Introduction

Human history has allowed precious few ancient religious writings to survive the onslaught of the more aggressive and powerful religious forces, which seek only to gain territory and wealth. Genocide and cultural eradication always go hand in hand with missionary zeal. In many cases every trace of the conquered society's religious writings, practices, icons, and even buildings were destroyed, in the name of conversion from worship of gods considered evil, and religious customs labeled as heresies. What generally results from past crusades is the conqueror's religion replacing or predominantly blending with the conquered culture's former religious practice, making the its religion almost unrecognizable. Christianity falls into the latter category, having been the victim of the Roman Empire, under the Emperor Constantine, who blended the Christian Church with the institutionalized "pagan" practices of Rome and eliminated any semblance of either the Jewish religious influence or the first church Jesus established during his ministry....Cont...
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#5 Aug 1, 2012
The First Reformation

After solidifying his position to gain complete control of the western portion of the empire in 312, the Emperor Constantine instituted the Edict of Milan, a "Magna Carta of religious liberty," which eventually changed the Empire’s religion and put Christianity on an equal footing with paganism. Almost overnight the position of the Christian Church was reversed from persecuted to legal and accepted. Constantine began to rely on the church for support, and it on him for protection. The Church and the Empire formed an alliance, which remains to this day. Very rapidly, the laws and policies of the Empire and the doctrine of the Church became one with Constantine as the interpreter of both law and policy. This was accomplished by eliminating hundreds of books thought to be against "Church" doctrine and watering down what remained by blending Christian beliefs and practice with long established Roman sanctioned pagan worship.

Constantine believed that the Church and the State should be as close as possible. Constantine tolerated pagan practices, keeping pagan gods on coins and retaining his pagan high priest title "Pontifex Maximus" in order to maintain popularity with his former subjects. In 330 he began an assault on paganism but used a clever method of persuasion to force people to follow the laws by combining pagan worship with Christianity. He made December 25th, the birthday of the pagan Unconquered Sun god, the official holiday now celebrated as the birthday of Jesus. He also replaced the weekly day of worship by making rest on Saturday unlawful and forcing the new religion to honor the first, not the seventh day, as a day of rest. As a way of defining his concept of the new universal religion he simply classified everything "Jewish" to be an abomination. Considering almost every aspect of the Bible is "Jewish" by association, every doctrinal biblical principle was changed or eliminated. After 337 Constantine increased his purging of the more obvious aspects of paganism.
Through a series of Universal Councils, he and his successors completely altered doctrine without regard to biblical edict, set up a church hierarchy of his own design, and established a set of beliefs and practices, which are the basis for all mainstream Bible-based churches. The separation of the Protestants and the Roman Church caused a physical split but the beliefs and practices established by Constantine remained almost identical. Very little has changed since the 4th century Councils changed the face of Christianity. An effective practice instituted was the purging of any book in the formerly accepted biblical works, over 80% of the total, that church leaders felt did not fit within their new concept of Christianity. The doctrines and practices remaining in the surviving books were effectively eradicated by simply changing them by replacing clear scripture with Church-sanctioned doctrine.
....Cont...
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#6 Aug 1, 2012
Forbidden Not Lost

Constantine began what was to become a centuries long effort to eliminate any book in the original Bible that was considered unacceptable to the new doctrine of the church. At that time, it is believed there were up to 600 books, which comprised the work we now know as the Bible. Through a series of decisions made by the early church leadership, all but 80 of those books, known as the King James Translation of 1611, were purged from the work, with a further reduction by the Protestant Reformation bringing the number to 66 in the "Authorized" King James Bible.
What we now have in Bible-based religion, whether labeled as "Catholic", or Protesting Catholic, known as “Protestant", is unrecognizable form either the Hebrew religion, now known as the Jewish religion, or the church established at Jerusalem by the Apostles and disciples of Jesus. The practices of this first church are not practiced by any major religion and they are almost unknown, despite being clearly outlined in the existing New Testament. In its place are doctrines and practices first established in the first "true" Reformation of Christianity begun by Constantine.
There is much controversy over how many books the Bible should actually contain but considering the depth and scope of those few works remaining in the "accepted" Bible, we see but a fragment of incredible wisdom and history. A study of the Lost Books of the Bible is incomplete without a clear understanding that this is not a matter of simple loss, but a campaign by the Roman Catholic Church to purge books variously classified as heretical, dangerous, and corruptive. To the public they are “lost”; to the Church they are “forbidden”. Although the exact number of books purged is known only to the Church, and not shared knowledge, some can be determined by the discovery of their presence in the church prior to the reformation resulting in what became known as the Roman "Universal" Church.
One of the more obvious forms of discovery comes from the surviving books themselves, which sight works not present in the existing collection. Also many do not know that the Apocryphal books were actually included in the King James translation until they were officially purged by the Archbishop of Canterbury in 1885. Other writings also connect many books to the first church. Whatever the number before the purge by the formation of Catholicism by Constantine; even one lost book is a great loss indeed.
We claim no expertise concerning the authenticity of any the lost books and leave this judgment to the reader. We do, however, strongly reject the self-proclaimed authority of any dogmatically motivated and church-controlled mortals who think themselves qualified to make such decisions. One of the most logical and realistic concepts in the Bible is the caution that one should prove all things. We believe that proving the veracity of a given thing is an individual responsibility, which must not, and should not be the duty of those who think themselves better judges.
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#7 Aug 1, 2012
The above came from: http://www.bibleufo.com/anomlostbooks.htm

This blows the whole theory out of water, that the bible we have today IS the inspired words of God.

No one-- YES, NO ONE, in their right mind after doing their honest research on how the bible we have today was made, per above, could ever say that the bible is the very words of God. Yes, it does contain them, but there are many other words that God had absolutely nothing to do with. They would have to answer and explain all of Dan's questions above and they can't do this.
birdman

Arthur, IL

#8 Aug 1, 2012
Mans sayings which are garbage above, post 3,4,5,6,7, are that garbage.

Those posts have a hatred for Christ.
DANNO

London, UK

#9 Aug 1, 2012
birdman wrote:
Mans sayings which are garbage above, post 3,4,5,6,7, are that garbage.
Those posts have a hatred for Christ.
Birdie.

Xplain to the readers why they have Bible VERSES REMOVED from their HOLY Bible and If the NT was fully inspired by GOD then WHO HAS the POWER to REMOVE GOD's WORD and the following verses:-

MATT 17: 21

Matt 12: 47

Matt 18: 11

Matt 21: 44

Matt 23: 14

MARK 7: 16

Mark 9: 44

Mark 9: 46

Mark 11: 26

Mark 15: 28

Mark 16: 9-20

John 5: 4

John 7: 53

John 8: 11

1st John 5: 7

Mr Birdie I hope you don't blame me that your Bible has most of those VERSES removed because that would be REALLY GARBAGE from your mouth!?!?!

We are now waiting for you to xplain why GOD allowed this to happen in the NT? and xplain why you say the posts above have a "hatred" for Christ?

When you have done your xplaining I will put up MORE MISSING Bible VERSES for you to xplain.

Dan

The servant of YAHWEH GOD and exposer of Spiritual LIARS like Mr Birdie. Psalms 94: 16
DANNO

London, UK

#10 Aug 1, 2012
birdman wrote:
Mans sayings which are garbage above, post 3,4,5,6,7, are that garbage.
Those posts have a hatred for Christ.
Birdie.

Xplain to the readers why you left out Post No1?
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#11 Aug 1, 2012
DANNO wrote:
Why did God allow SATAN to remove some Bible Verse?
Some say the Bible has 66 Books only.What do you say and why?
I Say NOT all the NT books were inspired by GOD! because there are verses removed.
Why did SATAN leave out 3rd Corinthians & Daniel 13 from your Bible or was it GOD?
Why Did God ALLOW SATAN sevants to plant WEEDS in the Bible?? Matt 13: 24-26
Why Did SATAN allow PAUL to attack Peter in Gal 2 ?
Why only LUKE remained with PAUL in 2nd Tim 4: 11
Why is there NO seats for Paul & Barnabas in REV 21: 14 & Matt 19: 28
Why doe's ACTS 14: 14 say Barnabas is an APOSTLE and LUKE & MATTHEW say HE WAS NOT?? Matt 10: 2-4 & Luke 6: 12-19
So , who is brave enough to answer the FIRST 5 points of this post to biggin with?
Dan
Third Corinthians ( http://www.christian-history.org/3rd-corinthi... ) is trivial, boring and pedantic. It adds nothing to the body of Christian knowledge and in certain respects contradicts the less important aspects of it.
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#12 Aug 1, 2012
DANNO wrote:
Why did God allow SATAN to remove some Bible Verse?
Some say the Bible has 66 Books only.What do you say and why?
I Say NOT all the NT books were inspired by GOD! because there are verses removed.
Why did SATAN leave out 3rd Corinthians & Daniel 13 from your Bible or was it GOD?
Why Did God ALLOW SATAN sevants to plant WEEDS in the Bible?? Matt 13: 24-26
Why Did SATAN allow PAUL to attack Peter in Gal 2 ?
Why only LUKE remained with PAUL in 2nd Tim 4: 11
Why is there NO seats for Paul & Barnabas in REV 21: 14 & Matt 19: 28
Why doe's ACTS 14: 14 say Barnabas is an APOSTLE and LUKE & MATTHEW say HE WAS NOT?? Matt 10: 2-4 & Luke 6: 12-19
So , who is brave enough to answer the FIRST 5 points of this post to biggin with?
Dan
Dan. 13 ( http://www.newadvent.org/bible/dan013.htm ) is painfully childish.
DANNO

London, UK

#13 Aug 1, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
<quoted text>
Third Corinthians ( http://www.christian-history.org/3rd-corinthi... ) is trivial, boring and pedantic. It adds nothing to the body of Christian knowledge and in certain respects contradicts the less important aspects of it.
Stuffie.

But the writer was a chosen Apostle by CHRIST and all his writings were INSPIRED by the HOLY Spirit you believe that don't you? Why would you ACCUSE the HOLY SPIRIT of inspiring Paul to write boring & pandantic garbage?? Are you NOT sinning or GRIEVING the HOLY Spirit by your opinion of 3rd Corinthian?
What about the missing 13th Chapter of DANIEL? whats your opinion on why that was REMOVED from your HOLY BIBLE?

Dan
DANNO

London, UK

#14 Aug 1, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
<quoted text>
Dan. 13 ( http://www.newadvent.org/bible/dan013.htm ) is painfully childish.
Carefull now young man! You believe the HOLY Bible was inspired by GOD/Holy Spirit. Why did GOD allow that CHAPTER to be removed from your Holy Bible?
Many don't believe Daniel 13 is painfully childish. You do!

OK, Can you now xplain to the readers why GOD allowed SATAN to REMOVE those VERSES by Matthew in my previous post.?

waiting...

Dan
Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#15 Aug 1, 2012
Compare the last verses of the book of Job in our current Bible with the verses in the Septuigent if you want some eye popping information. The Catholic church removed these verses because they did not want to be tarred with the stigma of the person who was Job's grandfather. Look it up, it's not difficult.
DANNO

London, UK

#16 Aug 1, 2012
Dennis wrote:
Compare the last verses of the book of Job in our current Bible with the verses in the Septuigent if you want some eye popping information. The Catholic church removed these verses because they did not want to be tarred with the stigma of the person who was Job's grandfather. Look it up, it's not difficult.
Dennis.

I don't think the spiritual blind like to have their eyes openned? They prefer to be blind, ignorant and stupid. Jesus did say they have EYES but CANNOT SEE and have EARS but don't want to hear!

I say they have brains but God allowed them to shift their brains to their back side especially in Birdies case!

They don't have the love for spiritual TRUTH like we do!

It would be interesting to read Birdie & Stuffie replies to our posts.

Dan
birdman

Arthur, IL

#17 Aug 1, 2012
Most all posts here was written by Ignorant people that deny the Word of God in the 66 books of the Bible.

I can just see old Satan having a great time with these people and saying "I got them where I want them"
Rockroller

Blue Jay, CA

#18 Aug 1, 2012
birdman wrote:
Mans sayings which are garbage above, post 3,4,5,6,7, are that garbage.
Those posts have a hatred for Christ.
No they don't.
DANNO

London, UK

#19 Aug 2, 2012
birdman wrote:
Most all posts here was written by Ignorant people that deny the Word of God in the 66 books of the Bible.
I can just see old Satan having a great time with these people and saying "I got them where I want them"
LIAR and flase teacher!!

Ask your kink SATAN to give you better posts to refute mine!!

Dan
DANNO

London, UK

#20 Aug 2, 2012
birdman wrote:
Most all posts here was written by Ignorant people that deny the Word of God in the 66 books of the Bible.
I can just see old Satan having a great time with these people and saying "I got them where I want them"
Birdbrain.

the readers and all of HEAVEN are still waiting for you to reply to post No1!! Satan is sure laughing at you for NOT reply post No1 !!

Dan

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