Proof that the SDA IJ Doctrine is in ...

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#1847 Jun 3, 2012
Note the paucity of evidence to prove his claim that the FB #2 (and others) were plagiarized from the RCC catechism--despite numerous request and ample time to put forth.

So, what do we actually find when we compare the two? Bible texts!

Here's the texts that both use in common--no other similarity:

1) John 3:16
2) 2 Cor. 5:19
3) John 1:29
4) 1 John 4:2
5) John 1:14
6) Phil. 2:6, 7
7) John 1:14
8) Mark 1:15
9) Matt. 21:9

I've shown that over a dozen times so far.
Stuff

Toronto, Canada

#1848 Jun 4, 2012
djconklin wrote:
Note the paucity of evidence to prove his claim that the FB #2 (and others) were plagiarized from the RCC catechism--despite numerous request and ample time to put forth.
So, what do we actually find when we compare the two? Bible texts!
Here's the texts that both use in common--no other similarity:
1) John 3:16
2) 2 Cor. 5:19
3) John 1:29
4) 1 John 4:2
5) John 1:14
6) Phil. 2:6, 7
7) John 1:14
8) Mark 1:15
9) Matt. 21:9
I've shown that over a dozen times so far.
And for the umpteenth time, Felix (and here I speak to your cat), the juxtaposition of many quotes does not make your point any less nebulous. As Paul says, "We are saved by GRACE through faith." It is our faith that makes us whole, the gift of God and for his glory. But the fruit of the Spirit are these: first love ...

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#1849 Jun 30, 2012
>As Paul says, "We are saved by GRACE through faith." It is our faith that makes us whole, the gift of God and for his glory. But the fruit of the Spirit are these: first love ...

I've never said otherwise.
Red

United States

#1850 Apr 10, 2013
ChristianEvangelist wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =wy37dpBXjEsXX
This 5 part video should be watched by every Adventist. Even by those Adventists who tremble in fear of the truth. Instead of attacking the speakers, be open minded because they are telling you truth that will set you free.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Why not read the Bible and see how the IJ is supported and start a discussion with the texts.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#1851 Apr 10, 2013
Red wrote:
<quoted text>Why not read the Bible and see how the IJ is supported and start a discussion with the texts.
why not show the evidence there is an IJ of hte saints.

Situps, CON McDoodle, Mr Knowitall and a slew of others from
mainline Laodicea were unable.
Robert Two

Adelaide, Australia

#1852 Apr 10, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
why not show the evidence there is an IJ of hte saints.
Situps, CON McDoodle, Mr Knowitall and a slew of others from
mainline Laodicea were unable.
BIBLE TEXT
The books are open.
That is to REVIEW a judgemant all ready made.
Lay Worker you just cannot get it right.
Robert Two

Adelaide, Australia

#1853 Apr 10, 2013
Red wrote:
<quoted text>Why not read the Bible and see how the IJ is supported and start a discussion with the texts.
They do not want PROOF they just want to BRICKER !

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#1854 Apr 12, 2013
>why not show the evidence there is an IJ of hte saints.

If there wasn't an IJ of the saints--how would we know who is who? How would the angel with the inkhorn know who to mark and who not to mark?

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#1855 Apr 12, 2013
>Felix (and here I speak to your cat),

His name is Max.

> the juxtaposition of many quotes does not make your point any less nebulous.

That simply proves that you compeletly missed the point.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#1856 Apr 12, 2013
djconklin wrote:
>why not show the evidence there is an IJ of hte saints.
If there wasn't an IJ of the saints--how would we know who is who? How would the angel with the inkhorn know who to mark and who not to mark?
No Bible - try harder

CON McDoodle of course reckons the thief on the cross needs to be investigated when Jesus promised otherwise.

Just another CON job from Con McDoodle
Pioneer

Mesa, AZ

#1857 Apr 12, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
why not show the evidence there is an IJ of The saints.
Situps, CON McDoodle, Mr Knowitall and a slew of others from
mainline Laodicea were unable.
:):):)

The IJ doesn't exist according to a "THUS SAITH THE LORD" that must be way to hard for them to figure out they never have proven that the saints have to be judged when the bible says they do not come into condemnation/judgment if the scriptures say they do not come into judgment these foolish virgins that believe the saints are judged when their names only are in the lambs book of life I guess all heaven cannot figure that out either according to these foolish virgins, who don't know their Bible and try to ADD to it their own theories. The door will be shut! They simply are not wiling to accept Gods Gift.
Pioneer

Mesa, AZ

#1859 Apr 12, 2013
djconklin wrote:
>As Paul says, "We are saved by GRACE through faith." It is our faith that makes us whole, the gift of God and for his glory. But the fruit of the Spirit are these: first love ...
I've never said otherwise.
Faith and Grace (In Vain) can be a works program

"When we speak of faith, there is a distinction that should be borne in mind. There is a kind of belief that is wholly distinct from faith. The existence and power of God, the truth of His word, are facts that even Satan and his hosts cannot at heart deny." {February 14, 1893 ATJ, GCDB 265.9}
Did not the evil spirits tell Jesus that He was Christ?[Congregation: "Yes."] Then the devils, Satan and his hosts, do believe in the existence and power of God, that His word is true, and that Jesus is the Messias, the Christ, the Son of God. Satan and his hosts believe all that. But that is not faith. How much power is there in their belief to work good in their lives? None at all. They have no faith.

But just this is the Catholic faith, isn't it?

What kind of faith is that then?

That is satanic faith.

That is all it is, satanic belief,

as this puts it;

but yet the papacy passes it for faith.

And whoever passes that for faith

is a papist

even thou he profess

to be a Seventh-day Adventist.0

But I read on from Steps to Christ:{February 14, 1893 ATJ, GCDB 265.10}
Pioneer

Mesa, AZ

#1860 Apr 12, 2013
djconklin wrote:
>As Paul says, "We are saved by GRACE through faith." It is our faith that makes us whole, the gift of God and for his glory. But the fruit of the Spirit are these: first love ...
I've never said otherwise.
So what! a phony christian can ALSO take A phony GRACE (IN VAIN) and phony Faith (a catholic faith - AT Jones) belief a WORKS PROGRAM ALSO!

That's a fact that you did not know! Did you?
Paul talks about it a lot.

"When we speak of faith, there is a distinction that should be borne in mind. There is a kind of belief that is wholly distinct from faith. The existence and power of God, the truth of His word, are facts that even Satan and his hosts cannot at heart deny." {February 14, 1893 ATJ, GCDB 265.9}
Did not the evil spirits tell Jesus that He was Christ?[Congregation: "Yes."] Then the devils, Satan and his hosts, do believe in the existence and power of God, that His word is true, and that Jesus is the Messias, the Christ, the Son of God. Satan and his hosts believe all that. But that is not faith. How much power is there in their belief to work good in their lives? None at all. They have no faith.

But just this is the Catholic faith, isn't it? What kind of faith is that then?

That is satanic faith.

That is all it is, satanic belief,

as this puts it; but yet the papacy passes it for faith.

And whoever passes that for faith

is a papist

even thou he profess to be a

Seventh-day Adventist.

But I read on from Steps to Christ:{February 14, 1893 ATJ, GCDB 265.10}

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#1861 Apr 13, 2013
djconklin wrote:
>why not show the evidence there is an IJ of hte saints.
If there wasn't an IJ of the saints--how would we know who is who? How would the angel with the inkhorn know who to mark and who not to mark?

No Bible - try harder
That's because you don't know the Bible--even after you have quoted the requisite verses on previous occasions!
Red

United States

#1862 Apr 17, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
why not show the evidence there is an IJ of hte saints.
Situps, CON McDoodle, Mr Knowitall and a slew of others from
mainline Laodicea were unable.
You dont agree with it
SamBee

Winter Garden, FL

#1863 Apr 17, 2013
Me inhim wrote:
<quoted text>
That does NOT prove it started on 22nd Oct 1844!! it could have started BEFORE John & Paul died!!! It says>> " For the hour of his Judgment has come" NOT FUTURE TENSE IS IT??
EGW said it started in 22nd Oct 1844! Your Bible quote by John proves EGW lied! doe's it not? Or John, GOD & the HOLY SPIRIT lied?
Dan
The exposer of FOOLS! and MORONS!
The killed his butt because the people sold everything they had following his lie that Messiah would return in 1844 and it didn't happen.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#1864 Apr 17, 2013
Pioneer wrote:
<quoted text>
Faith and Grace (In Vain) can be a works program
"When we speak of faith, there is a distinction that should be borne in mind. There is a kind of belief that is wholly distinct from faith. The existence and power of God, the truth of His word, are facts that even Satan and his hosts cannot at heart deny." {February 14, 1893 ATJ, GCDB 265.9}
Did not the evil spirits tell Jesus that He was Christ?[Congregation: "Yes."] Then the devils, Satan and his hosts, do believe in the existence and power of God, that His word is true, and that Jesus is the Messias, the Christ, the Son of God. Satan and his hosts believe all that. But that is not faith. How much power is there in their belief to work good in their lives? None at all. They have no faith.
But just this is the Catholic faith, isn't it?
What kind of faith is that then?
That is satanic faith.
That is all it is, satanic belief,
as this puts it;
but yet the papacy passes it for faith.
And whoever passes that for faith
is a papist
even thou he profess
to be a Seventh-day Adventist.0
But I read on from Steps to Christ:{February 14, 1893 ATJ, GCDB 265.10}
remains unanswered
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#1865 Apr 17, 2013
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>That's because you don't know the Bible--even after you have quoted the requisite verses on previous occasions!
ALl the readers saw was a compilation of verses that proved there was no IJ of the saints

even the typology of the DoA does not speak about an IJ of the saints otherwise Jesus would be lying in John 5:24.

try harder CON McDoodle
Red

United States

#1866 Jun 16, 2013
Pioneer wrote:
<quoted text>
:):):)
The IJ doesn't exist according to a "THUS SAITH THE LORD" that must be way to hard for them to figure out they never have proven that the saints have to be judged when the bible says they do not come into condemnation/judgment if the scriptures say they do not come into judgment these foolish virgins that believe the saints are judged when their names only are in the lambs book of life I guess all heaven cannot figure that out either according to these foolish virgins, who don't know their Bible and try to ADD to it their own theories. The door will be shut! They simply are not wiling to accept Gods Gift.
When it says Judgment, its more true than you think.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#1867 Jun 16, 2013
Red wrote:
<quoted text>When it says Judgment, its more true than you think.
Says krisis --'judgement' in JOHN 5:24 as well

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