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birdman

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ROBERT TWO wrote:
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I understand your point but if you learnt the tricks of the trade according to the BIBLE then you are streets ahead of the rest.
The BIBLE teachers us to know who the false prophets are.
It is not up to us to confirm by guess work.
Once you know the TRICKS OF THE TRADE you know you do not have your own opinion.
Even following BIBLE text TRUTH will make you free.
You see you are not FREE till you know TRUTH.
I think you went beyond what the Bible says
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I think you went beyond what the Bible says
You have some instructions to follow as yet.
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Oct 2, 2012
 
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You have some instructions to follow as yet.
INSTRUCTIONS I GAVE study the words in the Bible
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ROBERT TWO wrote:
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I understand your point but if you learnt the tricks of the trade according to the BIBLE then you are streets ahead of the rest.
The BIBLE teachers us to know who the false prophets are.
It is not up to us to confirm by guess work.
Once you know the TRICKS OF THE TRADE you know you do not have your own opinion.
Even following BIBLE text TRUTH will make you free.
You see you are not FREE till you know TRUTH.
The "tricks of the trade" can be found in Mat. 24. First "trick": EGW was a false prophet, beware!
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Better stuff wrote:
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The "tricks of the trade" can be found in Mat. 24. First "trick": EGW was a false prophet, beware!
But prove you are QUALIFIED to say that.
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But prove you are QUALIFIED to say that.
You can't see my degrees.
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You can't see my degrees.
Degrees do not qualify you in this case.
Living the life does.
Thy will be done on earth as it is in HEAVEN.
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Degrees do not qualify you in this case.
Living the life does.
Thy will be done on earth as it is in HEAVEN.
Well said R2
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Lay Worker wrote:
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Well said R2
The devil said that to Absolom. And he died the death of the fallen.
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Degrees do not qualify you in this case.
Living the life does.
Thy will be done on earth as it is in HEAVEN.
My life is as good as it gets.

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Lay Worker wrote:
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The readers have been waiting for ages for the Scriptural evidence there is an IJ of the saints.
The readers understand that those who deny Christ as their Great High Priest - yes, just as Marcos does - omit the weightier matters concenring Jn 5:24
Judgment on the Little Horn includes Judgment of the Saints, for God's people are a "part" of the Little Horn. Since the Little Horn is Babylon, we see in Revelation 18 in the judgment hour message to "come out of Babylon". Therefore, judgment upon the Little Horn includes those saints who are intrinsically tied to that system, but have yet to come out.

We see similar judgments upon God's saints when Nadab and Abihu were smitten.
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Judgment on the Little Horn includes Judgment of the Saints, for God's people are a "part" of the Little Horn. Since the Little Horn is Babylon, we see in Revelation 18 in the judgment hour message to "come out of Babylon". Therefore, judgment upon the Little Horn includes those saints who are intrinsically tied to that system, but have yet to come out.
We see similar judgments upon God's saints when Nadab and Abihu were smitten.
Another tragic effort by Marcos and a continual denial of the minsitration types of the DoA as provided by God in Lev 4 & 16

Besides, Marcos also overlooks the corporate accountability as mentioned in Josh 7. SO when one prefers to covet the 'goodly Babylonian garments' such as the central doctrine of the LITTLE HORN, denial of the nature of Christ, the denial of a Dual Atonement by the SDA theologians one is terribly self deceived.

Jesus said the saints do not come into KRISIS --judgement. Jn 5:24

The question is why and why Jn 5:24 and Lev 16.

time to tune in and do some real Bible study Marcos.
The readers all know that Marcos doesnt
have any Bible answers to the apostasy within
Adventism and nor can explain why God does impose a corporate reckoning.

the readers are also aware the SDA Church was called to denominational repentence. Yet Marcos is not familiar with this feature of SDA denominational history
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Another tragic effort by Marcosy
Excellent analysis of the facts.

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Excellent analysis of the facts.
Orcs and Uruk-hai do get along sometimes. Even though they are each of a different breed. They fight when we aren't looking, but when it comes to truth and light shining at them, suddenly they are best friends in time of war against all light.:)
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Orcs and Uruk-hai do get along sometimes. Even though they are each of a different breed. They fight when we aren't looking, but when it comes to truth and light shining at them, suddenly they are best friends in time of war against all light.:)
Is your grandmother Orc? You do look like you want to be Uruk. For a picture, you hug and smile; but when the cameras are gone, you sit in stony silence, the two of you together like gargoyles on a wall.
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Is your grandmother Orc? You do look like you want to be Uruk. For a picture, you hug and smile; but when the cameras are gone, you sit in stony silence, the two of you together like gargoyles on a wall.
You should talk.
Where is your warm and fuzzy side?
Havent seen it.
At least he's friendly and not barbaric as yourself.

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Another tragic effort by Marcos and a continual denial of the minsitration types of the DoA as provided by God in Lev 4 & 16
How so?
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Besides, Marcos also overlooks the corporate accountability as mentioned in Josh 7. SO when one prefers to covet the 'goodly Babylonian garments' such as the central doctrine of the LITTLE HORN, denial of the nature of Christ, the denial of a Dual Atonement by the SDA theologians one is terribly self deceived.
You seem to ignore Leviticus 10.

Leviticus 10:1 And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not.
10:2 And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD.
10:3 Then Moses said unto Aaron, This [is it] that the LORD spake, saying, I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me, and before all the people I will be glorified. And Aaron held his peace.
10:4 And Moses called Mishael and Elzaphan, the sons of Uzziel the uncle of Aaron, and said unto them, Come near, carry your brethren from before the sanctuary out of the camp.
10:5 So they went near, and carried them in their coats out of the camp; as Moses had said.
10:6 And Moses said unto Aaron, and unto Eleazar and unto Ithamar, his sons, Uncover not your heads, neither rend your clothes; lest ye die, and lest wrath come upon all the people: but let your brethren, the whole house of Israel, bewail the burning which the LORD hath kindled.
10:7 And ye shall not go out from the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: for the anointing oil of the LORD [is] upon you. And they did according to the word of Moses.

Obviously, you have not learned that the judgment upon the Little Horn figures, Nadab and Abihu, that offered strange fire in the sanctuary, became also a judgment upon "all the people". "I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me, and before all the people I will be glorified." (10:3) "Uncover not your heads, neither rend your clothes; lest ye die, and lest WRATH come upon ALL the people: but let your brethren, the whole house of Israel, bewail the burning which the LORD hath kindled. " (10:6).

Thus we see a corporate judgment. The sins of these Little Horn powers corporately included the people in relation to these false powers. In the rest of the verses, 7-20, a sin offering and atonement were made for all the people. Without question, the whole congregation came under judgment because of the sins of the Little Horn powers.

This spells the death knell of your foolish heresies.

Thus we see that the judgment that came upon the Little Horn powers, Nadab and Abihu who defiled the sanctuary, INCLUDED the people of ALL Israel in their relation of how they viewed this abomination.
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Jesus said the saints do not come into KRISIS --judgement. Jn 5:24
The verse does not say judgment in the sense of evaluation, but in the sense of condemnation. Heb 10:30 is very clear: "And again, The Lord shall judge his people." And 1 Peter 4:17 -- "For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God."
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#138
Oct 5, 2012
 
Its Marcos and the blindness of Laodicea - its a shame that unqualifiable arguments are perpetrated when the sole responsibility of the SDA is to exalt Christ and His rightouesness.

Marcos is off into bi-path meadow with the usual range of blurts encompassing the traditions of the elders in Advetnism and its also plain Marcos fails to even read what LW & EC have been speaking about for ages.

Its like always talking to a child who has ADD.

And then you get this irrational idea about Jn 5:24. Oh the duplcitous mindset of todays SDAs know no bounds.

EC & LW have spoken about the call of denominational repentance given to the SDA church by ELders Weiland & SHort in 1950 and the consequences of their manuscript "A Warning and Its Reception" and the rejection of the SDA church of the 1888 Message.

But alas even RJW back peddled in 1967 when the SDA church pressured him no end -- he wrote "I shall remain dumb." [Op Cit]

That year, 1967, was epochal in prophetic history, for the imminence of the fulfilment of Lk 21:24 and the closing times of the nations and the neanress of the second phase of Jesus' High Priestly ministration as noted in Lev 16. The entire worldwide SDA chruch SS was alerted to Jesus' own prophecy and this message included helps by Dr Jean Zurcher and this warning went to the world wide SS community in the second quarter warning of 1980.

Verily, the second last nail was placed in corporate Laodicea coffin in 1967 and the SDA leaderships rejection of the call to corporate accountability triggered their revolt and betrayal of their sacred trust as noted in 9T19.

A short time later at Dallas GC session the last nail was hit hard and slammed shut the door for denoiminational repentance where the ministerial association of SDAs voted in the ventral doctrine of the LITTLE HORN of which amiably Marcos accepts carte blanche and with no vestige of concern when God did not have anything good about the LITTLE HORN in Daniel 7&8.

Moreover, in 1983 Walter Martin wrote to the VP of the GC in W Richard Lesher who confirmed with MArtin the acceptance of the heresy as published in Questions on Doctrine --[ KINGDOM of the CULTS p410.]

all the readers see is the endless burying the head in the sand of yet another confused zealous SDA who knows not the ministration of Jesus as High Priest and its connectivity to the types. Fact remains -- Typology is a valid hermeneutic.

HINT -

there is no IJ of the saints as revealed in Lev 4&16 confirming the intent of John 5:24 the purpose of the the alst act of the final Atonement by Jesus as High Priest. All those who sought forgiveness, merely stood as forgiven sinners and since the objective of the Everlasting Gospel is found in Col 1 - why would Jesus investigate His saints when He said He would be in them?

Thats where Marcos stumbles in the appreciation of the Gospel and the Day of Atonement imagery

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Orcs and Uruk-hai do get along sometimes. Even though they are each of a different breed. They fight when we aren't looking, but when it comes to truth and light shining at them, suddenly they are best friends in time of war against all light.:)
You are clueless and don't know as much as you think you do.

Prov 21:24 Proud [and] haughty scorner [is] his name, who dealeth in proud wrath.

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Oct 5, 2012
 
Pioneer,

Do you subscribe to core Adventist teachings, and do you believe that Ellen White is inspired? Or do you believe she was a false prophet?

Please do tell me where you stand.

Also, how much of my writings have you read in the past?

I do not claim to know everything Pioneer. In fact, I claim to know very little. But I do take out much time to study. I simply do my best, and have so for the last 13 years or so--opening my Bible every day, reading, comparing prophecy with history, and studying types and antitypes, and weighing scripture with scripture. I have written a lot of articles over the years, and am over 300 pages complete with my upcoming book, "Vindicating the Historicist Hermeneutic".

I'm still far far behind in knowledge, but my intent is not to give up, and to continue learning--never feeling satisfied that I have "attained all knowledge".

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