MANY SDA's believe WEDNESDAY Crucifixion, WHY?

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Ken Fowler

Vista, CA

#1 Feb 16, 2011
Why?
Because it makes sense! Three days AND three nights. Not 2 days and one night, like the Catholics want you to believe.. It was Jewish LAW for a person to be dead for three days AND three nights in order to be certified LEGALLY dead. That's why Jesus left Lazarus until the 3 days expired! So people would know he was INDEED dead! Then the miracle came! Makes sense? Sure it does! There were 2 preparation days and two Sabbaths that week.
BJ Simpson

Lebanon, OR

#2 Feb 16, 2011
But weren't you guys (Millerites/SDA) the same ones who couldn't quite get time elements correct in 1843, then 1844?

Are SDA's really some kind of time authorities?
A Voice In The Wilderness

Vineland, NJ

#3 Feb 17, 2011
Ken Fowler wrote:
Why?
Because it makes sense! Three days AND three nights. Not 2 days and one night, like the Catholics want you to believe.. It was Jewish LAW for a person to be dead for three days AND three nights in order to be certified LEGALLY dead. That's why Jesus left Lazarus until the 3 days expired! So people would know he was INDEED dead! Then the miracle came! Makes sense? Sure it does! There were 2 preparation days and two Sabbaths that week.
The reason the large majority of us SDAs believe it was Friday is because of Roman Catholic Tradition; tradition which goes all the way back to the Babylonian Mysteries. This idea of Jesus dying on Friday has its ROOTS in the luciferian feasts of Easter & Christmas, particularly the concept of 'Good Friday'.

"About 200 B.C. mystery cults began to appear in Rome just as they had earlier in Greece. Most notable was the Cybele cult centered on Vatican hill... Associated with the Cybele cult was that of her lover, Attis (the older Tammuz, Osiris, Dionysus, or Orpheus under a new name). He was a god of ever-reviving vegetation. Born of a virgin, he died and was reborn annually. The festival began as a day of blood on Black Friday and culminated after three days in a day of rejoicing over the resurrection." Gerald L. Berry, "Religions of the World," Barns & Noble,(1956).

As we can see Good Friday(Black Friday as it was originally called) has no connection whatsoever to Jesus Christ. It is Satanic. When the Catholic Church brought the worship of Sunday, Christmas, and Easter into 'Christianity' in the 4th Century AD, Black Friday simply became Good Friday and it was said this was the day on which Christ died.

You are correct in stating that Jesus was crucified on the 4th day(Wednesday) rather than on the 5th(Friday).

First we are told in John 19:31 "for that sabbath day was an high day". The Sabbath for which the Jews were preparing was a High Sabbath, the Sabbath of Passover, and not a regular 7th day Sabbath.

Furthermore, speaking to the Pharisees, Jesus stated, "there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: for as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Matthew 12:39,40. No how much man may attempt to misconstrue this statement by Christ, three days and three days means three full days and three full nights just as in Genesis an evening and morning meant a full evening and a full morning.

To top this off, Jesus being crucified on Wednesday has been ASTRONOMICALLY confirmed. http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/Passover...

I pray that whoever reads this may not become bitter as the manner of some is but may depart from Satanic traditions and accept plain Biblical truth of 'It is written'.

Amen.
Terrilyn

United States

#4 Feb 17, 2011
Ken Fowler wrote:
Why?
Because it makes sense! Three days AND three nights. Not 2 days and one night, like the Catholics want you to believe.. It was Jewish LAW for a person to be dead for three days AND three nights in order to be certified LEGALLY dead. That's why Jesus left Lazarus until the 3 days expired! So people would know he was INDEED dead! Then the miracle came! Makes sense? Sure it does! There were 2 preparation days and two Sabbaths that week.
This move in Adventism is to deny the Sabbath, that is what it is all about just like EGW said the SDA church people would eventually deny the very Sabbath of the Bible.

Since you quote Jewish Law? HUMMMM then why is it that you do not know in Jewish Law any part of a 24 hours day be it 1 hour or 12 or 18 or what ever make a full day. If it should related to work or pay or in death it is recognized and Bible that one portion of a Day is considered to be a full day, regardless of how many hours is involved.
A Voice In The Wilderness

Vineland, NJ

#5 Feb 17, 2011
Terrilyn wrote:
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This move in Adventism is to deny the Sabbath, that is what it is all about just like EGW said the SDA church people would eventually deny the very Sabbath of the Bible.
Since you quote Jewish Law? HUMMMM then why is it that you do not know in Jewish Law any part of a 24 hours day be it 1 hour or 12 or 18 or what ever make a full day. If it should related to work or pay or in death it is recognized and Bible that one portion of a Day is considered to be a full day, regardless of how many hours is involved.
This is what people always reply with when this issue is in question. However, Scripture indicates otherwise. I would suggest you read and re-read my reply up above.
BJ Simpson

Lebanon, OR

#6 Feb 17, 2011
Terrilyn wrote:
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This move in Adventism is to deny the Sabbath, that is what it is all about just like EGW said the SDA church people would eventually deny the very Sabbath of the Bible.
So what if real Christians deny whatever on Saturday? Is that salvation, that one must not deny Saturday?

What heresy!

You folks do not even know the eternal security gospel, proving that you are cursed.
birdman

Bettendorf, IA

#7 Feb 21, 2011
Terrilyn wrote:
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This move in Adventism is to deny the Sabbath, that is what it is all about just like EGW said the SDA church people would eventually deny the very Sabbath of the Bible.
Since you quote Jewish Law? HUMMMM then why is it that you do not know in Jewish Law any part of a 24 hours day be it 1 hour or 12 or 18 or what ever make a full day. If it should related to work or pay or in death it is recognized and Bible that one portion of a Day is considered to be a full day, regardless of how many hours is involved.
Correct, as many don't understand it, if one would study with the Holy Spirit they would find the truth
Samual Snider

United States

#8 Feb 21, 2011
Jesus said Three days AND Three nights. He never said two days and one night. The Wednesday truth only further DISPROVES the Catholic Sunday to celebrate the resurrection. The resurrection was late Sat PM and NOT on the first day. Early Sunday morning, Jesus was ALREADY resurrected.

Now Bird-person: do you mean the Holy Spirit speaks through Ellen White to explain difficult Bible verses like John 10:22,23 or does He speak to you in person? Could I give you a few verses to ask the Holy Spirit to explain to you? And then you tell us what He said?
A Voice In The Wilderness

Vineland, NJ

#9 Feb 21, 2011
birdman wrote:
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Correct, as many don't understand it, if one would study with the Holy Spirit they would find the truth
The Holy Spirit will not be with you if you willfully ignore Scripture, as Terri has done in this situation.
birdman

Bettendorf, IA

#10 Feb 21, 2011
A Voice In The Wilderness wrote:
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The Holy Spirit will not be with you if you willfully ignore Scripture, as Terri has done in this situation.
this was gone thru awile back, most of the time I disagree with her, but this time she is right.

In Heb a part of a day is counted as a whole

Give you something to study and look up.

Thurs. nite [1] Fri. nite [2] Sat. nite [3]
Fri [1] Sat.[2] Sun [3]
A Voice In The Wilderness

Vineland, NJ

#11 Feb 21, 2011
birdman wrote:
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this was gone thru awile back, most of the time I disagree with her, but this time she is right.
In Heb a part of a day is counted as a whole
Give you something to study and look up.
Thurs. nite [1] Fri. nite [2] Sat. nite [3]
Fri [1] Sat.[2] Sun [3]
Let's for a minute ASSUME that Jesus was crucified on Friday and see how this line of reasoning plays out.

Where are you getting thursday night from? Matthew 27:46,50 state,

"And about the NINTH HOUR Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

In our reckoning of time the 'ninth hour' would be equivalent to 3:00 PM. Sunset usually takes place around 6:00 PM in Israel. Assuming that Joseph of Arimathaea and the Jews managed to lay Jesus in the tomb before sundown on Friday, let's count out the 3 days and 3 nights, using the principle that any part of a day counts as a whole day:

1st day - Friday Day
1st night - Friday Night(Beginning of Sabbath)
2nd day - Sabbath Day
2nd night - Saturday Night(Beginning of the first day of the week)
3rd day -?
3rd night -?

We seem to have run out of days and nights.

John 20:1 further assures us that Jesus had already risen from the dead while it was still dark on Sunday, "The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre." Hence, you cannot use the day-part of Sunday to add to the formula.

Yours and Terri's line of reasoning only further proves that according to His own words in Matthew 12:39,40 Jesus could NOT have been crucified and died on Friday.

As I pointed out earlier, the Bible clearly specifies in John 19:31 that the day after Passover was to be a High Sabbath, "for that sabbath day was an high day". A High Sabbath was a special day for the Jews, which took place during one of the first six days of the week and was associated with one of the Jewish Feast Days. The Lord commanded the Israelites to treat that day as you would the 7th-day Sabbath, hence the term 'High Sabbath'.

It is clear from the Word, from astronomy, and from your own reasoning that Jesus did NOT die on Friday. Why is it so hard for the professed followers of Christ to accept correction and admit they were in error? This is and will be the bane of most Christians, and particularly, most SDAs.
birdman

Bettendorf, IA

#12 Feb 21, 2011
Voice

where was Christ Thur. nite?

In the Garden Christ was in the realm of Satan
Satan's realm is the grave or hell.
trial run by Satan was thur. nite
nailed to Cross 9AM time of the Morning Sacrifice
Died 3PM the time of the evening Sacrifice [O.T.]

Reason is He was the Lamb, and it had to be at those times to fulfill all the things pertaining to Him

Most people want to leave out the Garden and Trial because it does not fit their thinking.

Thur. nite [1] Fri.nite [2] Sat.nite [3]

Fri.day [1] Satday [2] Sun day [3]

you come up with 3 days 3 nites. and that matches all the texts pertain to Christ and His Crucificion and Ressurection
A Voice In The Wilderness

Vineland, NJ

#13 Feb 21, 2011
birdman wrote:
Voice
where was Christ Thur. nite?
In the Garden Christ was in the realm of Satan
Satan's realm is the grave or hell.
trial run by Satan was thur. nite
I really hope you were joking in posting this.

"But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: in whom the god of THIS WORLD hath blinded the minds of them which believe not." 2 Corinthians 4:3,4

"Again, the devil taketh Him up into an exceeding high mountain, and showeth Him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; and saith unto Him,'All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.'" Matthew 4:8,9

Satan's realm is the earth friend, it has been this way since the fall when Adam yielded the dominion. The Bible cannot be more clear on this than it already is.

Trial run? You are making up doctrines in an attempt to defend an unBiblical belief. Put self aside friend, and accept a plain 'Thus Saith The LORD'.
robert two

Australia

#14 Feb 21, 2011
birdman wrote:
Voice
where was Christ Thur. nite?
In the Garden Christ was in the realm of Satan
Satan's realm is the grave or hell.
trial run by Satan was thur. nite
nailed to Cross 9AM time of the Morning Sacrifice
Died 3PM the time of the evening Sacrifice [O.T.]
Reason is He was the Lamb, and it had to be at those times to fulfill all the things pertaining to Him
Most people want to leave out the Garden and Trial because it does not fit their thinking.
Thur. nite [1] Fri.nite [2] Sat.nite [3]
Fri.day [1] Satday [2] Sun day [3]
you come up with 3 days 3 nites. and that matches all the texts pertain to Christ and His Crucificion and Ressurection
It is part of three different days.
Remember the evening and the morning are the ONE DAY.
So it is only saying THREE DIFFERENT DAYS.
Friday,Saturaday & Sunday.
birdman

Bettendorf, IA

#15 Feb 21, 2011
A Voice In The Wilderness wrote:
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I really hope you were joking in posting this.
"But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: in whom the god of THIS WORLD hath blinded the minds of them which believe not." 2 Corinthians 4:3,4
"Again, the devil taketh Him up into an exceeding high mountain, and showeth Him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; and saith unto Him,'All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.'" Matthew 4:8,9
Satan's realm is the earth friend, it has been this way since the fall when Adam yielded the dominion. The Bible cannot be more clear on this than it already is.
Trial run? You are making up doctrines in an attempt to defend an unBiblical belief. Put self aside friend, and accept a plain 'Thus Saith The LORD'.
No I believe you do not understand.

Sundown thur [thur. nite ] is the first nite for it is Friday.
that is how the Sabbath is. Sundown Fri. nite is Saturday

God said and the evening and the morning were the day.

with those Words thur. nite is part of Fri.
birdman

Bettendorf, IA

#16 Feb 21, 2011
robert two wrote:
<quoted text> It is part of three different days.
Remember the evening and the morning are the ONE DAY.
So it is only saying THREE DIFFERENT DAYS.
Friday,Saturaday & Sunday.
If you are saying thur.nite and Fri.= 1 day and 1 nite
Fri. nite and SAt.= 2nd day 2nd nite
Sat. nite and Sun = 3rd day 3rd nite you are correct for that is how God said the Days are

the evening and morning were
A Voice In The Wilderness

Vineland, NJ

#17 Feb 21, 2011
birdman wrote:
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No I believe you do not understand.
I'll come back to you when you begin using Scripture and after you have read and analyzed the passages I presented.
birdman

Bettendorf, IA

#18 Feb 21, 2011
A Voice In The Wilderness wrote:
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I'll come back to you when you begin using Scripture and after you have read and analyzed the passages I presented.
I quoted Scripture on the days, but you dont believe.

Check Gen 1 out and see how God set it up, but maybe God was wrong in doing it that way.

Since: Jan 11

Jackson, TN

#19 Feb 21, 2011
I believe you have adventists confused with the radio church of God. This wednesday theory has been proven wrong time and time again.

The clear biblical evidence is that Jesus was crucified upon Friday and rose on Sunday.

Mark 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first unto Mar Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Luke 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week early, very early in the morning they came unto the sepulcher bringing the spices..."

vs.13 And behold two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus which was from Jerusalem about threesome furlongs.

vs.21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Irsrael and beside all this today is the third day since these things were done.

vs.46 And said unto them "Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day."

Luke 23:54 friday (in the day) is called "preparation day" The falling of the weekly Sabbath and the Passover on the same day is called a high Sabbath.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#20 Feb 21, 2011
birdman wrote:
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No I believe you do not understand.
Sundown thur [thur. nite ] is the first nite for it is Friday.
that is how the Sabbath is. Sundown Fri. nite is Saturday
God said and the evening and the morning were the day.
with those Words thur. nite is part of Fri.


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