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Earthcaller

Kissimmee, FL

#1 Jan 1, 2013
Seems like Lysimacus, DJ Conklin, Mr.Knowitall and the guy from Nevada have all disappeared.

Since: Sep 12

Clarkston, Wa.

#2 Jan 1, 2013
Earthcaller wrote:
Seems like Lysimacus, DJ Conklin, Mr.Knowitall and the guy from Nevada have all disappeared.
No, they are still around, but most people on this forum just like to bash on them and the church or day that they worship, so on and so on.
His4everFriend

Grants Pass, OR

#3 Jan 1, 2013
2all wrote:
<quoted text>No, they are still around, but most people on this forum just like to bash on them and the church or day that they worship, so on and so on.
LOL... yup, that's pretty much about it. Still there are some pretty cool non SDA's here so I lurk mostly and post when I have some spare time.

His4everFriend
Elder Finch

Columbus, GA

#4 Jan 1, 2013
The SDA church is in the process of cleansing. Doctrinal cleansing. The problem is that the church-members and the GC Leadership do not believe the same thing, and many "unofficial adjustments" have taken place over the past 3 years. Thanks to widely studied documents such as Adventist Alternative.
The false doctrines many are dropping: the Investigative Judgment, Ellen White as Bible- level prophetess, the Roman Trinity, the Heavenly Millennium, etc.
IMMOVABLE is still the Sabbath, which is now being preached as a CREATION DECREE (see The Fourth Dilemma) and we ought to keep this day holy, regardless of any command, Mosaic or 10. Makes sense. So, expect the SDA church to GROW! Amen!
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#5 Jan 1, 2013
Earthcaller wrote:
Seems like Lysimacus, DJ Conklin, Mr.Knowitall and the guy from Nevada have all disappeared.
They all ran out of theological gas.

Nothing convincing was ever presented by this crowd.

They couldnt prove the IJ of the Saints from the Bible - then all full of malarkey decided to spin the idea the FB #2 the central doctrine of the Little Horn was kosher as well.

The readers all know they got their hiney walloped
DANNO

London, UK

#6 Jan 2, 2013
2all wrote:
<quoted text>No, they are still around, but most people on this forum just like to bash on them and the church or day that they worship, so on and so on.
Was it satan or their god that made them dissapear?

What about Ex-Pastor Koot? What made him dissapear??

Dan
DANNO

London, UK

#7 Jan 2, 2013
Elder Finch wrote:
The SDA church is in the process of cleansing. Doctrinal cleansing. The problem is that the church-members and the GC Leadership do not believe the same thing, and many "unofficial adjustments" have taken place over the past 3 years. Thanks to widely studied documents such as Adventist Alternative.
The false doctrines many are dropping: the Investigative Judgment, Ellen White as Bible- level prophetess, the Roman Trinity, the Heavenly Millennium, etc.
IMMOVABLE is still the Sabbath, which is now being preached as a CREATION DECREE (see The Fourth Dilemma) and we ought to keep this day holy, regardless of any command, Mosaic or 10. Makes sense. So, expect the SDA church to GROW! Amen!
If the HOLY Spirit cant clean it up since the death of your prophet EGW what makes you so confidant humans will clean it up?

Dan
His4everFriend

Grants Pass, OR

#8 Jan 2, 2013
Elder Finch wrote:
The SDA church is in the process of cleansing. Doctrinal cleansing. The problem is that the church-members and the GC Leadership do not believe the same thing, and many "unofficial adjustments" have taken place over the past 3 years. Thanks to widely studied documents such as Adventist Alternative.
The false doctrines many are dropping: the Investigative Judgment, Ellen White as Bible- level prophetess, the Roman Trinity, the Heavenly Millennium, etc.
IMMOVABLE is still the Sabbath, which is now being preached as a CREATION DECREE (see The Fourth Dilemma) and we ought to keep this day holy, regardless of any command, Mosaic or 10. Makes sense. So, expect the SDA church to GROW! Amen!
Dear Elder Finch:

I have been watching God's Spirit moving in the Sevenh Day Adventist church in a remarkable way in recent years. We are seeing conversions that can only be explained as God's amazing grace upon those who have had hearts hard as stone. They have now become soft and teachable and have surrendered their life fully to God and are now fun to be arround.

With all due respect... You are in a dream world if you think that there is any truth to the post that you have stated above. LOL... It is because we are teaching those Bible truths that we ARE growing. There is one point however that is close to the truth. There is a cleansing happening in the SDA Church and that is that those who do not want to be cleansed and allow God to write His Laws upon their hearts are leaving. That is why in recent years we have seen so many new groups starting such as Adventist Alternative and ALF etc. starting to try and draw people away from the very work that God is doing to prepare a people for the soon return of Jesus. You will not prosper in doing so and one day have to answer for doing this.

His4everFriend
DANNO

London, UK

#9 Jan 2, 2013
Elder Finch wrote:
The SDA church is in the process of cleansing. Doctrinal cleansing. The problem is that the church-members and the GC Leadership do not believe the same thing, and many "unofficial adjustments" have taken place over the past 3 years. Thanks to widely studied documents such as Adventist Alternative.
The false doctrines many are dropping: the Investigative Judgment, Ellen White as Bible- level prophetess, the Roman Trinity, the Heavenly Millennium, etc.
IMMOVABLE is still the Sabbath, which is now being preached as a CREATION DECREE (see The Fourth Dilemma) and we ought to keep this day holy, regardless of any command, Mosaic or 10. Makes sense. So, expect the SDA church to GROW! Amen!
Mr Finch

Do you think the SDA ship will take in HUMANS or MONKEYS on board the SHIP with EGW statements below??

“There is one straight chain of truth without one heretical sentence in that which I have written”(Selected Messages [SM], vol. 3, p.52). Nothing could be further from the truth as we have seen from a mere sampling of her contradictions with the Bible

One thing that EGW said that I complete agree with is “If (my) testimonies speak NOT according to the Word of God, reject them”(TC, vol. 5, p.601). Amen, Ellen, amen!

EGW says: Jesus' bones were broken during the Crucifixion (SG, vol. 1, p58).
The BIBLE says: Jesus' bones were not broken (see John 19:33, 36).

==========

EGW says: Noah ate only the flesh of clean animals (Patriarchs and Prophets [P&P], p.107).
The BIBLE says:“Every creature that is alive shall be yours to eat”(Genesis 9:3).
==========

EGW says: Adam was deceived (GC, p.352, 1885 ed.).
The BIBLE says::It was not Adam who was deceived”(I Timothy 2:14).
==========

EGW says: The Atonement was NOT finished at Calvary (Testimonies for the Church [TC], vol. 1, p.58; GC, p.422, 623).
The BIBLE says: The Atonement was finished at Calvary (see John 19:30; Hebrews 10:12).
==========

EGW says: The blood of Christ doesn't cancel our sins (P&P, p. 357).
The BIBLE says:“The blood of His Son cleanses us of all sin”(I John 1:7; see also Romans 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 13:12).

==========

EGW says: We are reconciled to God through obedience to the Law (TC, vol. 4, p.294).
The BIBLE says:“…we were reconciled to Him by the death of His Son”(Romans 5:10; see also II Corinthians 5:18; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8-9).

==========

PROPHECY:“Old Jerusalem would never be built up”(EW, p.75).
REALITY: Since 1948, Old Jerusalem has been greatly built up by the Israelis

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PROPHECY: England will attack the U.S. during the Civil War (TC, vol. 1, p.259).
REALITY: England did not attack.

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PROPHECY: The earth will be depopulated soon after 1864 (TC, vol. 8, p.94).
REALITY: The earth's population has increased greatly
DANNO

London, UK

#10 Jan 2, 2013
His4everFriend wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Elder Finch:
I have been watching God's Spirit moving in the Sevenh Day Adventist church in a remarkable way in recent years. We are seeing conversions that can only be explained as God's amazing grace upon those who have had hearts hard as stone. They have now become soft and teachable and have surrendered their life fully to God and are now fun to be arround.
With all due respect... You are in a dream world if you think that there is any truth to the post that you have stated above. LOL... It is because we are teaching those Bible truths that we ARE growing. There is one point however that is close to the truth. There is a cleansing happening in the SDA Church and that is that those who do not want to be cleansed and allow God to write His Laws upon their hearts are leaving. That is why in recent years we have seen so many new groups starting such as Adventist Alternative and ALF etc. starting to try and draw people away from the very work that God is doing to prepare a people for the soon return of Jesus. You will not prosper in doing so and one day have to answer for doing this.
His4everFriend
Idiot

We have left NOT because of the LAW of GOD!!! We have left your stinking lying SDA SHIP because of HEB 6: 19-20 & HEB 8: 1-3 & ACTS 7: 55 which proves JESUS was NOT in a stinking apartment till OCT 1844!!

And also because of her statements below!

“There is one straight chain of truth without one heretical sentence in that which I have written”(Selected Messages [SM], vol. 3, p.52). Nothing could be further from the truth as we have seen from a mere sampling of her contradictions with the Bible

One thing that EGW said that I complete agree with is “If (my) testimonies speak NOT according to the Word of God, reject them”(TC, vol. 5, p.601). Amen, Ellen, amen!

EGW says: Jesus' bones were broken during the Crucifixion (SG, vol. 1, p58).
The BIBLE says: Jesus' bones were not broken (see John 19:33, 36).

==========

EGW says: Noah ate only the flesh of clean animals (Patriarchs and Prophets [P&P], p.107).
The BIBLE says:“Every creature that is alive shall be yours to eat”(Genesis 9:3).
==========

EGW says: Adam was deceived (GC, p.352, 1885 ed.).
The BIBLE says::It was not Adam who was deceived”(I Timothy 2:14).
==========

EGW says: The Atonement was NOT finished at Calvary (Testimonies for the Church [TC], vol. 1, p.58; GC, p.422, 623).
The BIBLE says: The Atonement was finished at Calvary (see John 19:30; Hebrews 10:12).
==========

EGW says: The blood of Christ doesn't cancel our sins (P&P, p. 357).
The BIBLE says:“The blood of His Son cleanses us of all sin”(I John 1:7; see also Romans 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 13:12).

==========

EGW says: We are reconciled to God through obedience to the Law (TC, vol. 4, p.294).
The BIBLE says:“…we were reconciled to Him by the death of His Son”(Romans 5:10; see also II Corinthians 5:18; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8-9).

==========

PROPHECY:“Old Jerusalem would never be built up”(EW, p.75).
REALITY: Since 1948, Old Jerusalem has been greatly built up by the Israelis

==========

PROPHECY: England will attack the U.S. during the Civil War (TC, vol. 1, p.259).
REALITY: England did not attack.

==========

PROPHECY: The earth will be depopulated soon after 1864 (TC, vol. 8, p.94).
REALITY: The earth's population has increased greatly
Dummo

Brattleboro, VT

#11 Jan 2, 2013
funny how the one who rejects Paul uses his words to claim they supposedly prove EGW etc. wrong
DANNO

London, UK

#12 Jan 2, 2013
Dummo wrote:
funny how the one who rejects Paul uses his words to claim they supposedly prove EGW etc. wrong
DUMMO

EGW proved herself WRONG and SATANIC!!

If you are a black person you will be surprised that GOD did NOT create you. EGW said it NOT ME!
Click on link below if you are NOT afraid to LEARN the truth on the origin of Black people?[By EGW]

By EGW the SDA Prophet

http://www.ellenwhiteexposed.com/egw62.htm

http://www.nonegw.org/egw62.shtml
DANNO

London, UK

#13 Jan 2, 2013
"The Holy Ghost is the Author of the Scriptures and of the Spirit of Prophecy." (Selected Messages, Vol. 3, p. 30)

"God has outlined His plan in His Word, and in the Testimonies He has sent to His people." (Battle Creek Letters, p. 74)

"The testimonies are unread and unappreciated. God has spoken to you. Light has been shining from His word and from the testimonies, and both have been slighted and disregarded.(Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 217)

"If you lessen the confidence of God's people in the testimonies he has sent them, you are rebelling against God as certainly as were Korah, Dathan and Abirum" (Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 66).

"If you lose confidence in the testimonies you will drift away from Bible truth." (Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 98)
"These books contain clear, straight, unalterable truth and they should certainly be appreciated. The instruction they contain is not of human production." (Letter H-339, Dec. 26, 1904)

"These books, giving the instruction that the Lord has given me during the last sixty years, contain light from heaven, and will bear the test of investigation." (Selected Messages, vol. 1, p. 35, 1906)

"When I went to Colorado, I wrote many pages to be read at your camp meeting... God was speaking through clay. You might say this communication was only a letter. Yes, it was a letter, but prompted by the Spirit of God, to bring before your minds things that had been shown me. In these letters which I write,... I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision - the precious rays of light shining from the throne" (Testimonies, Vol. 5, pp. 63-67).

More here> http://www.nonsda.org/egw/egw29.shtml
Elder Finch

Columbus, GA

#14 Jan 2, 2013
His4everFriend wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Elder Finch:
I have been watching God's Spirit moving in the Sevenh Day Adventist church in a remarkable way in recent years. We are seeing conversions that can only be explained as God's amazing grace upon those who have had hearts hard as stone. They have now become soft and teachable and have surrendered their life fully to God and are now fun to be arround.
With all due respect... You are in a dream world if you think that there is any truth to the post that you have stated above. LOL... It is because we are teaching those Bible truths that we ARE growing. There is one point however that is close to the truth. There is a cleansing happening in the SDA Church and that is that those who do not want to be cleansed and allow God to write His Laws upon their hearts are leaving. That is why in recent years we have seen so many new groups starting such as Adventist Alternative and ALF etc. starting to try and draw people away from the very work that God is doing to prepare a people for the soon return of Jesus. You will not prosper in doing so and one day have to answer for doing this.
His4everFriend
I do not think Adventist Alternative is an offshoot. I think the author is still SDA and simply asked QUESTIONS which the GC apparently ignored. The same was done by Dr Albert Koppel in the Nov/Dec issue of Adventist Today. A MUST READ!

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#15 Jan 2, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
They all ran out of theological gas.
Nothing convincing was ever presented by this crowd.
They couldnt prove the IJ of the Saints from the Bible - then all full of malarkey decided to spin the idea the FB #2 the central doctrine of the Little Horn was kosher as well.
The readers all know they got their hiney walloped
And yet you believe EGW on most stuff and yet reject that she write over and over about the IJ which means she has and still is deluding many people.
Robert Two

Adelaide, Australia

#16 Jan 2, 2013
Elder Finch wrote:
<quoted text>I do not think Adventist Alternative is an offshoot. I think the author is still SDA and simply asked QUESTIONS which the GC apparently ignored. The same was done by Dr Albert Koppel in the Nov/Dec issue of Adventist Today. A MUST READ!
The SDA REFORM is not an off shoot as in 1922 these SDAs asked for a hearing of General conference and were refused. So they just had to go it alone,
REFORM is a PRODUCT of GENERAL CONFERENCE.
If they were not refused they would not had had to start up.
Elder Finch

Columbus, GA

#17 Jan 3, 2013
The GC KNOWS that some of our doctrines CANNOT be proven from Scripture, but are helpless to "reform". The church employes 200,000 people and it will be pandemonium to suddenly drop the false docs such as Investigative Judgment and Catholic TRINITY
THE "REGULAR MEMBERS" are CHANGING!
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#18 Jan 3, 2013
CINDERS wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet you believe EGW on most stuff and yet reject that she write over and over about the IJ which means she has and still is deluding many people.
..

And the Pillar of Salt is still full of it.
Robert Two

Adelaide, Australia

#19 Jan 3, 2013
CINDERS wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet you believe EGW on most stuff and yet reject that she write over and over about the IJ which means she has and still is deluding many people.
Lay worker cannot see many things in the BIBLE .
The SAINTS will judge angels.
But that too is IJ as nothing will change.
The reason is GOD is never wrong .
It is only right the the UNIVERSE knows the GOD is JUST.

Lay Worker cannot see why GOD would want to show JUSTICE HAS BEEN DONE.
GOD seess us as equals.
Why bother having it all in books if it was not there for a very good reason ?
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#20 Jan 3, 2013
Robert Two wrote:
<quoted text>
Lay worker cannot see many things in the BIBLE .
The SAINTS will judge angels.
But that too is IJ as nothing will change.
The reason is GOD is never wrong .
It is only right the the UNIVERSE knows the GOD is JUST.
Lay Worker cannot see why GOD would want to show JUSTICE HAS BEEN DONE.
GOD seess us as equals.
Why bother having it all in books if it was not there for a very good reason ?
Now thats a pile of bovine slop R2

R2 is bearing false witness

R2 is just another winsome Commandment breaker

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