Ernie Knoll is an Obvious Fraud

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Jun 20, 2013
 
Shubee wrote:
The past and the present are keys to understanding the immediate future. I'm proud of my sources on current events but evidently you are either ashamed of your sources or don't have any.
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Great keep letting them lead you on...right into that broad road and its populous line which, by resolute conviction, takes the Mark of the Beast. You strain at a gnat, but do swallow a camel.(Matt 23:24)
It's sad to see Adventists repudiate every source of information on current events that might lead them out of their deadly stupor because they prefer the claims of proven charlatans like Ernie Knoll, the Prophet of Stupefying Ignorance.

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#527
Jun 20, 2013
 
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<quoted text>You certainly don't want to be understood as endorsing the truth as I see it so if you've written anything moderately unintelligible at my forum that you want to keep, I advise you to copy in within the next 24 hours as I will probably be deleting all your useless, totally incomprehensible ramblings there shortly.
Of course I don’t want to endorse your Satanic messages... indeed now that I clearly see them as what they really are..

...And all you had to do was to provide the Biblical answer which would disprove those things...but of course you need to avoid such substantive issues and instead quibble on minors and vexatiously clam up. This appeal to force is quite typical of desperate prideful people like you...It is quite evident that you just could not provide a disproving response to the points made there (as you certainly “understood” what you had responded to), and so you find something minor to pompously quibble upon and resort to also lies, and force to quench the standing evidence/testimony against you.... Obviously that’s all you can goonishly do, as also seen in your police/legal case vs. the SDA Church. Keep it up as you can’t do better being squarely under the Darkness banner of Satan (CET 228.1-3)....you are indeed quite prophetic....and certainly bit the purposeful baiting stumbling block (Isa 6:8-13|Matt 13:10-17)

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#528
Jun 20, 2013
 
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<quoted text> To explore the possibility that Ellen G. White's eschatology is a conditional prophecy is only a threat to those who are firmly entrenched in their traditions, totally ignorant of the Scriptures and have a problem with conditionality.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewto...
LOL!!! Again just more of your cherished oblivious “blissful” ignorance talking. My whole blog replaces the literalistic aspects of the Eschatology revealed to EGW. Just click on ANY indexed Daniel or Revelation passage here:

http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2009/11/blog-p...

The difference between me and you is that you have, indeed just like John Harvey Kellogg, been “inspired”,(or really it has just “naturally” been you offended pride in regards to your past SDA issues controlling you), to remove as many waymark teachings as subtely possible. My new eschatological views build on those prior SDA waymarks, including the fact that the SDA Church had genuinely been God’s Remnant Church, and present the neglected Spiritual implication in both those waymark doctrines and prophetic understandings/interpretations ....and they certainly don’t culminate in your ‘“natural man’s”, Babylonian, Adam Smith America, GRAND DELUSION’.

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#529
Jun 20, 2013
 
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> <quoted text> It's sad to see Adventists repudiate every source of information on current events that might lead them out of their deadly stupor because they prefer the claims of proven charlatans like Ernie Knoll, the Prophet of Stupefying Ignorance.
You truly are the SDA-ish Jack Van Impe which reverse-interprets Bible prophecy from current, political events....oh yeah keep red-herringly seeing you boogie-man Ernie Knoll as the problem...by now you are sounding psychologically unstable by this desperate attempt to bring everything back to Ernie Knoll.

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#530
Jun 20, 2013
 
NJK Project wrote:
by now you are sounding psychologically unstable by this desperate attempt to bring everything back to Ernie Knoll.
Right, for you, returning to the subject of this thread, "Ernie Knoll is an Obvious Fraud" is proof of psychological instability.

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#532
Jun 20, 2013
 
Just because you have "dreams, visions", and whatever else you can dream up that aligns itself with the bible and points people to God, Jesus and heavenly issues does not make you anymore a prophet then the next guy. Anyone could do this. Come up with some real tangible evidence NJK of your promotion of this EGW wanna-be. Just like with EGW you have none.

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#534
Jun 20, 2013
 
Shubee wrote:
If the false prophet had an anti-Sabbath message, then I'm sure that the third angel would courageously respond.
NJK Project wrote:
Jesus, the Bible and the SOP show that the MESSAGE of that statement...is a DOCTRINE OF DEVILS.
If tautologies are from Satan, then I suppose that logicians and mathematicians are unusually dangerous sorcerers.

That reminds me of a funny quote by St. Augustine:

"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell" (St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37).

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#535
Jun 20, 2013
 
Shubee wrote:
Right, for you, returning to the subject of this thread, "Ernie Knoll is an Obvious Fraud" is proof of psychological instability.
Yes Shubee...when you quote my statements and just continue to spew you Satanic lies, and desperately try to pin the blame on Ernie Knoll, then that indeed is proof of psychological instability....Your claims against Knoll have long been proved to be spiritually vacuous and you can only maintain them by passing biased and indifferent judgement on him. The proof of any prophesying is in the substance and you have yet to provide any valid doctrinal or non Jer 18:1-10 prophetic error in Knolls revelations.

You on the other hand stand as both doctrinally heretical and prohetically deceiving. Your prophetic “vision” is in contradiction to both the Bible and SOP which you so pompously ignore whenever they clash against your Thomas Paine “lights, sources, experts and luminaries”. You and your are teachings are most dangerous and originate from the mind of Satan himself...as God has variously tried to warn you. You just can’t truthfully get away from that, and those facts all against you!! Hence your desperate need to ignore them. Not fooling me!!

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#536
Jun 20, 2013
 
Walt50 wrote:
Just because you have "dreams, visions", and whatever else you can dream up that aligns itself with the bible and points people to God, Jesus and heavenly issues does not make you anymore a prophet then the next guy. Anyone could do this. Come up with some real tangible evidence NJK of your promotion of this EGW wanna-be. Just like with EGW you have none.
All of the ‘produced elements’ you’ve cited are what a genuine prophet is supposed to do/have, so I don’t see what else you want. E.g., John the Baptist had not visions or dreams to proclaim, yet he was the greatest of prophets. I, myself can only go by the 1 Thess 5:19-22 imperative on this issue and not my personal preferences or biases. See my blog post for certain key things I have found Biblical with Knoll. http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2012/05/testin...
...and all actual things known..I am not even “promoting” Knoll knowing rather that God is only testing and judging the professions of SDA through this (=Ezek 14:1-9) and they have proven themselves and these expressions to be quite superficial and insincere.

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#537
Jun 20, 2013
 
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> <quoted text> If tautologies are from Satan, then I suppose that logicians and mathematicians are unusually dangerous sorcerers.
That reminds me of a funny quote by St. Augustine:
"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell" (St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37).
Your “logic” is either foundationally and/or ultimately devoid of God’s Spirit so that observation by Augustine does further substantiates your stance as a mouthpiece for Satan, indeed the ‘prophet of Revelation’s False Prophet’(PRFP). You indeed trust more in your logic than in God’s Word and Spirit and has thus effectively made a covenant with the Devil which I see he has already ratified with and through you!!

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#538
Jun 21, 2013
 
NJK Project wrote:
Your claims against Knoll have long been proved to be spiritually vacuous
Only in your mind. And stop entertaining the belief that God entitled you to think for everyone else. Actually, Ernie Knoll never explained how he got so confused when caught in his lies that he falsely confessed to his obvious fabrications, which he now says that he didn't mean to do.

I suppose that Ernie's explanation will be, when he finally stops evading the facts, is that false confessions are the work of the Holy Spirit.

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Jun 21, 2013
 
Shubee wrote:
To explore the possibility that Ellen G. White's eschatology is a conditional prophecy is only a threat to those who are firmly entrenched in their traditions, totally ignorant of the Scriptures and have a problem with conditionality.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewto...
NJK Project wrote:
You and your are teachings are most dangerous and originate from the mind of Satan himself.
I have already confessed and freely acknowledged that my theology is exceptionally dangerous to those who refuse to examine the foundations of their beliefs.
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Jun 21, 2013
 
NJK Project wrote:
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You truly are the SDA-ish Jack Van Impe which reverse-interprets Bible prophecy from current, political events....oh yeah keep red-herringly seeing you boogie-man Ernie Knoll as the problem...by now you are sounding psychologically unstable by this desperate attempt to bring everything back to Ernie Knoll.
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Jun 21, 2013
 
birdman wrote:
Correct
Your judgment is perverted and based on willful ignorance. However, the Spirit of prophecy's judgment of you is unquestionably correct. Amazingly, you have been marked out long ago by this irrefutable condemnation:

"I have beheld angels grieved as the most precious jewels of truth have been brought before men utterly incapable of appreciating the evidences in favor of the truth. Their entire being was at war with the principles of truth; their natures were at enmity with it. Their object in discussing was not that they might get hold of the evidences of the truth themselves, or that the people might have a fair understanding of our true position, but that they might confuse the understanding by placing the truth in a perverted light before the people. There are men who have educated themselves as combatants. It is their policy to misstate an opponent, and to cover up clear arguments with dishonest quibbles. They have devoted their God-given powers to this dishonest work, for there is nothing in their hearts in harmony with the pure principles of truth. They seize any argument they can get with which to tear down the advocates of truth, when they themselves do not believe the things they urge against them. They bolster themselves up in their chosen position, irrespective of justice and truth. They do not consider that before them is the Judgment, and that then their ill-gotten triumph, with all its disastrous results, will appear in its true character. Error, with all its deceptive policies, its windings and twistings and turnings to change the truth into a lie, will then appear in all its deformity. No victory will stand in the day of God, except that which truth, pure, elevated, sacred truth, shall win to the glory of God." —Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 3 p. 425.

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#543
Jun 21, 2013
 
Shubee wrote:
Only in your mind.
Nope...As validated by the Biblical test of the gift of prophecy....and you most atrociously fail that testing (Isa 8:16, 19-20)!! Valid prophesying is certainly not limited by what you can/will or cannot/will not accept!!
Shubee wrote:
And stop entertaining the belief that God entitled you to think for everyone else.
Another one of your desperate red herring, straw man claims....You have no problem passing off your merely “natural-minded” claims as the absolute truth...I have no problem, in fact, the debunking imperative to, express God’s involved Spiritual issues. Dealing in such Spiritual and Concrete Truths of God results in, by definition, absoluteness. You just need to ignore these things in order to continue self-worshipping your natural mind.(1 Cor 2:6-16)
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Actually, Ernie Knoll never explained how he got so confused...

He never said ‘he got confused’. He manifestly momentarily just gave in to the pressures around him to reject the dreams....(something I see you have done with your ‘SDA|State Successful and Damning Prosecution|“Rev 5”’*....the evidence against you, as encouraged in your Third Angel heresy, is indeed unanswerable)....but then he regained confidence in them.

*(#457) http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d...

[QUOTE who="Shubee"]when caught in his lies that he falsely confessed to his obvious fabrications, which he now says that he didn't mean to do.
Your patent hoodwinking/muddling guileful insinuating accusations are quite telling of your desperation: Knoll never “confessed” that he had “fabricated” his -dreams-...he just (1) expressed that he [momentarily] did not believe they were actual prophetic dreams, and (b) confessed that he had made up the Candace and Great Commission -testimonies-.
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I suppose that Ernie's explanation will be, when he finally stops evading the facts, is that false confessions are the work of the Holy Spirit.
Knoll has not ‘evaded that fact’, and has already said that he sees this development as a allowed by God to ‘shake’ certain superficial people from his ministry/following. People who trust more in external ‘signs and wonders’, including merely fulfillments, rather than paramountly in substantive and spiritual issues would indeed be shaken by this.(=Deut 13:1-5)

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I have already confessed and freely acknowledged that my theology is exceptionally dangerous to those who refuse to examine the foundations of their beliefs.
Ohhh... I have examined them...right to their Originator (e.g., LS 95-96) and unlike you, I see no reason to reject the foundations actually set by God, Jesus, the Bible or the SOP. You prefer, in fulfilment of EW 263-266, to let fallen man and their human reasoning, perceptions and solutions determine what your “foundations” for understanding Bible prophecy are to be....Expect the Great Babylonian Fall.(Luke 6:46-49; Rev 18:2ff)

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Shubee wrote:
Your judgment is perverted and based on willful ignorance. However, the Spirit of prophecy's judgment of you is unquestionably correct. Amazingly, you have been marked out long ago by this irrefutable condemnation:
{3T 425 misapplyingly quoted}

No Shubee...I have copiously examined enough of your teachings, views and experiences to see that you are the on against whom the SOP, indeed even God had adjudged and condemned. You will need to keep ignore these things but it should fool no one who does not go by that infantile “out-of-sight-out-of-reality” stance of yours.

-You have rejected the jewels of God’s Word to prop up your Babylonian Third Angel message
-Your base, selfish, egoistical and “natural-minded” nature, indeed your ‘entire being is at war with the principles of truth; as your natures are at enmity with it.’
-Your object in any discussion with you, and most of your presented teachings, is not in arriving at the concrete truth or the true position of God’s revelations, as you are “utterly incapable of appreciating the evidences in favor of the truth”, but ‘to place God’s truth in the perverted light of your “sources” and “luminaries” before the people.’
-You desperately, necessarily deliberately and indifferently devolve any discussion with you into a forwardly-halted, non-intelligent goonish insubstantive ‘combating’, with, as inevitably then also needed by you, the implementing of your further resorting “policy to misstate an opponent, and to cover up clear arguments with dishonest quibbles.”
-Whatever God may have wanted to do with/through you, if actually anything in regards to “with you pointedly”, has been marred by the fact that you have rather preferred to ‘devote your God-given powers to such dishonest work and working’.
-You moronically seize any argument that you think that you can get with which to try to tear down the advocates of truth, which you know are calculated guile, straw man claims and red herrings.
-You bolster yourself up in your chosen position by avoiding to, justly and truthfully, as defined, validated and calibrated by God’s word and the SOP, engage disproving comments and arguments standing against you They bolster themselves up in their chosen position, irrespective of justice and truth.
-By especially choosing to ignore the clear and unequivocal meanings of in all of the dreams (you’ve related) that God has given you, you evidently are by now so seared in your self-importance that you do not consider that before you is God’s Judgment which He has variously been warning you of, and that then your base and naturally-minded, ill-gotten “triumph”, with all their abominable disastrous results (Rev 14:9-11), will appear in their true Satanic character.(EW 263-266ff).
-Indeed then your espoused and taught errors from your “luminaries”, with all their Satanicly deceptive policies, the windings and twistings and turnings which you used to change the truth into a lie, will then appear in all its deformity.
-“No victory will stand in the day of God, except that which truth, pure, elevated, sacred truth, shall win to the glory of God.”—Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 3 p. 425.

Now that, your truth indifferently rejecting course, is what grieves angels, even Jesus Himself!!

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Jun 21, 2013
 
NJK Project wrote:
Nope...As validated by the Biblical test of the gift of prophecy.
There's something wrong with the one deceived, human mind that conducted the test.

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He manifestly momentarily just gave in to the pressures around him to reject the dreams
It's curious that the pressure occurred at the moment of being caught in fabricating bold lies.

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NJK Project wrote:
Knoll ...sees this development as a allowed by God to ‘shake’ certain superficial people from his ministry/following. People who trust more in external ‘signs and wonders’, including merely fulfillments, rather than paramountly in substantive and spiritual issues would indeed be shaken by this.
The Prophet of Stupefying Ignorance has nothing except a life history of having a superficial spiritual life, a legacy of ignorant statements about the Bible, empty prophecies, the confession of not having inspired dreams and the unanswered criticisms of one Linda Kirk.

Your fantasies about Ernie Knoll count for nothing.

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