Ernie Knoll is an Obvious Fraud

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#524 Jun 19, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
And news to you, your Multiple Scenario is not new light...It has long been seen in Christ Olivet Discourse...what is merely “new” from you is your “strictly sequential, mutually exclusive” view and claims for the prophecies of Revelation. That I particularly slant of your I now see as being completely unbiblical to say the least....as proven by how you see/think that is should lead to abandoning “waymark” understandings. See your effectuated EW 258-261's alterings which pave the way for the, and squarely your, EW 261-263ff “Angel of Light”|‘precious-vile conflating/blurring’ Satanic-snare deception!!
You certainly don't want to be understood as endorsing the truth as I see it so if you've written anything moderately unintelligible at my forum that you want to keep, I advise you to copy in within the next 24 hours as I will probably be deleting all your useless, totally incomprehensible ramblings there shortly.

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#525 Jun 20, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
what is merely “new” from you is your “strictly sequential, mutually exclusive” view and claims for the prophecies of Revelation. That I particularly slant of your I now see as being completely unbiblical to say the least....as proven by how you see/think that is should lead to abandoning “waymark” understandings.
To explore the possibility that Ellen G. White's eschatology is a conditional prophecy is only a threat to those who are firmly entrenched in their traditions, totally ignorant of the Scriptures and have a problem with conditionality.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewto...

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#526 Jun 20, 2013
Shubee wrote:
The past and the present are keys to understanding the immediate future. I'm proud of my sources on current events but evidently you are either ashamed of your sources or don't have any.
NJK Project wrote:
Great keep letting them lead you on...right into that broad road and its populous line which, by resolute conviction, takes the Mark of the Beast. You strain at a gnat, but do swallow a camel.(Matt 23:24)
It's sad to see Adventists repudiate every source of information on current events that might lead them out of their deadly stupor because they prefer the claims of proven charlatans like Ernie Knoll, the Prophet of Stupefying Ignorance.

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#530 Jun 20, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
by now you are sounding psychologically unstable by this desperate attempt to bring everything back to Ernie Knoll.
Right, for you, returning to the subject of this thread, "Ernie Knoll is an Obvious Fraud" is proof of psychological instability.

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#532 Jun 20, 2013
Just because you have "dreams, visions", and whatever else you can dream up that aligns itself with the bible and points people to God, Jesus and heavenly issues does not make you anymore a prophet then the next guy. Anyone could do this. Come up with some real tangible evidence NJK of your promotion of this EGW wanna-be. Just like with EGW you have none.

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#534 Jun 20, 2013
Shubee wrote:
If the false prophet had an anti-Sabbath message, then I'm sure that the third angel would courageously respond.
NJK Project wrote:
Jesus, the Bible and the SOP show that the MESSAGE of that statement...is a DOCTRINE OF DEVILS.
If tautologies are from Satan, then I suppose that logicians and mathematicians are unusually dangerous sorcerers.

That reminds me of a funny quote by St. Augustine:

"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell" (St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37).

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#538 Jun 21, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
Your claims against Knoll have long been proved to be spiritually vacuous
Only in your mind. And stop entertaining the belief that God entitled you to think for everyone else. Actually, Ernie Knoll never explained how he got so confused when caught in his lies that he falsely confessed to his obvious fabrications, which he now says that he didn't mean to do.

I suppose that Ernie's explanation will be, when he finally stops evading the facts, is that false confessions are the work of the Holy Spirit.

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#540 Jun 21, 2013
Shubee wrote:
To explore the possibility that Ellen G. White's eschatology is a conditional prophecy is only a threat to those who are firmly entrenched in their traditions, totally ignorant of the Scriptures and have a problem with conditionality.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewto...
NJK Project wrote:
You and your are teachings are most dangerous and originate from the mind of Satan himself.
I have already confessed and freely acknowledged that my theology is exceptionally dangerous to those who refuse to examine the foundations of their beliefs.
birdman

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#541 Jun 21, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
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You truly are the SDA-ish Jack Van Impe which reverse-interprets Bible prophecy from current, political events....oh yeah keep red-herringly seeing you boogie-man Ernie Knoll as the problem...by now you are sounding psychologically unstable by this desperate attempt to bring everything back to Ernie Knoll.
Correct

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#542 Jun 21, 2013
birdman wrote:
Correct
Your judgment is perverted and based on willful ignorance. However, the Spirit of prophecy's judgment of you is unquestionably correct. Amazingly, you have been marked out long ago by this irrefutable condemnation:

"I have beheld angels grieved as the most precious jewels of truth have been brought before men utterly incapable of appreciating the evidences in favor of the truth. Their entire being was at war with the principles of truth; their natures were at enmity with it. Their object in discussing was not that they might get hold of the evidences of the truth themselves, or that the people might have a fair understanding of our true position, but that they might confuse the understanding by placing the truth in a perverted light before the people. There are men who have educated themselves as combatants. It is their policy to misstate an opponent, and to cover up clear arguments with dishonest quibbles. They have devoted their God-given powers to this dishonest work, for there is nothing in their hearts in harmony with the pure principles of truth. They seize any argument they can get with which to tear down the advocates of truth, when they themselves do not believe the things they urge against them. They bolster themselves up in their chosen position, irrespective of justice and truth. They do not consider that before them is the Judgment, and that then their ill-gotten triumph, with all its disastrous results, will appear in its true character. Error, with all its deceptive policies, its windings and twistings and turnings to change the truth into a lie, will then appear in all its deformity. No victory will stand in the day of God, except that which truth, pure, elevated, sacred truth, shall win to the glory of God." —Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 3 p. 425.

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#546 Jun 21, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
Nope...As validated by the Biblical test of the gift of prophecy.
There's something wrong with the one deceived, human mind that conducted the test.

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#547 Jun 21, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
He manifestly momentarily just gave in to the pressures around him to reject the dreams
It's curious that the pressure occurred at the moment of being caught in fabricating bold lies.

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#548 Jun 21, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
Knoll ...sees this development as a allowed by God to ‘shake’ certain superficial people from his ministry/following. People who trust more in external ‘signs and wonders’, including merely fulfillments, rather than paramountly in substantive and spiritual issues would indeed be shaken by this.
The Prophet of Stupefying Ignorance has nothing except a life history of having a superficial spiritual life, a legacy of ignorant statements about the Bible, empty prophecies, the confession of not having inspired dreams and the unanswered criticisms of one Linda Kirk.

Your fantasies about Ernie Knoll count for nothing.

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#549 Jun 21, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
Knoll never “confessed” that he had “fabricated” his -dreams-...he just (1) expressed that he [momentarily] did not believe they were actual prophetic dreams, and (b) confessed that he had made up the Candace and Great Commission -testimonies-.
There isn't the slightest doubt in Ernie's first confession that his "dreams" were not of God.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewto...

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#550 Jun 21, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
Ohhh... I have examined them...right to their Originator (e.g., LS 95-96) and unlike you, I see no reason to reject the foundations actually set by God, Jesus, the Bible or the SOP. You prefer, in fulfilment of EW 263-266, to let fallen man and their human reasoning, perceptions and solutions determine what your “foundations” for understanding Bible prophecy are to be.
You need to give your overactive imagination a rest. Or are you lying primarily to protect your fantasy of actually having concocted the first few trumpet blasts of the 7 trumpet judgments in the book of Revelation? Clearly, if you truly believe that then you can be deceived into believing almost anything.

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#551 Jun 21, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
You prefer, in fulfilment of EW 263-266, to let fallen man and their human reasoning, perceptions and solutions determine what your “foundations” for understanding Bible prophecy are to be....Expect the Great Babylonian Fall.(Luke 6:46-49; Rev 18:2ff)
I explicitly list my two axioms (i.e., foundations) at everythingimportant.org and no mention is made there about my dependence being fundamentally based on human reasoning, perceptions and/or solutions. And if you actually knew of a fundamental error where even one of my sources misstates or misrepresents even one fact about what Seventh-day Adventists call the false prophet power, or anything else, then why don't you identify it?

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#552 Jun 22, 2013
Here's an interesting testimony. It's too long to quote all of it so I'll quote just a bit.

I went through a time of purging the dreams from my thoughts, and repenting to the Lord for believing in the dreams. On April 19, 2008 I felt convicted by the Lord to make a statement on the same forum in which I had posted in support of your dreams. That was the first time I publicly spoke out against the dreams, even though I had not been promoting them for quite a while.

The more I turned away from the dreams, the more powerfully the Lord convicted me that these dreams were not from Him. It was almost as if a light came on, and I could see now! I began processing all the information I had, and the truth came out clearly that I had been ensnared in a delusion.

I determined to dig a little deeper and find out from Shawn Boonstra if he had received any impressions about your dreams, either from God or Satan. You've probably seen the statement from IIW that was made as a result of my inquiry. No matter what the angel tries to say about God's timing, the prophecy, made Oct. 21, 2007 was made when you asked Jesus: "Is there someone I can be connected with so that these messages can go out faster? Jesus replies "Yes, I will connect you with Shawn Boonstra."

Over six months later, Shawn Boonstra dictated the following statement: "A number of people have communicated with our office recently, asking about our official position on the dreams and visions of Mr. Ernie Knoll. More specifically, some have been asking if Shawn Boonstra has received any sort of confirmation from God that Mr. Knoll's experience is genuine. At this point in time, Pastor Boonstra has had no such experience… To date, It Is Written has not come into possession of any information that suggests the claims of Mr. Knoll are genuine."

The bottom line is, Jesus did not connect you with Shawn Boonstra so that the messages can go out faster. Even if he were to "connect" with you today, over six months after your appeal to help the dreams go out faster, it's obvious that he didn't help them go out faster! Anybody can see that. There is no question that this was a false prophecy.
http://www.notaprophet.org/articles/open_lett...

I wouldn't be surprised if Ernie Knoll has no answer to Linda Kirk's testimony. It's incredibly damning and he wouldn't want anyone to pay any attention to it.

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#561 Jun 22, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
The substantive factual issue is: Were his dreams “fabricated” as you charged, or not.
Obviously Ernie's false dreams were fabricated by a demon or by Ernie himself. So actually, the substantive, factual issue is your belief that you have concocted the first few trumpet blasts of Revelation's 7 trumpet judgments.

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#562 Jun 22, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
All this perfectly agrees with EGW own revelation that the 7 Trumpets were not only past fulfillments
EGW never said that some part of the 7 trumpets already occurred.

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#563 Jun 22, 2013
NJK Project wrote:
Linda Kirk, and you, must obviously believe that Shawn Boonstra does not have Free Will and that just because God said something, that man will surely obey it.
Obviously, Ernie's god didn't really know that Shawn Boonstra would have nothing but contempt for Ernie's dreams.

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