Ernie Knoll is an Obvious Fraud

Ernie Knoll is an Obvious Fraud

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Shubee

Dallas, TX

#1 Jan 23, 2009
Ernie Knoll wrote:
The Herald turns to me and says, "It is important that His people understand while it is important that we are to return a tithe to God’s storehouse, it is equally important that they understand what the funds are being used for. If an individual is providing funds and they understand that the funds are not being used according to His will, that person will be held accountable. The Great Creator has said to pay a tribute to those who do His bidding. The Herald explains that many tributes are used toward Lucifer’s work of using spiritualism from within God’s church by those who collect and place the funds in a storehouse. The Herald says, "That is not God’s storehouse. Those that give a tribute will be able to see the blessing they give in faith when it is placed in God’s storehouse." STAND FAST, February 5, 2008.

I believe that Ernie Knoll should be respected for recognizing spiritualism in the Seventh-day Adventist church.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday...
How many Seventh-day Adventist educators or administrators in the church hierarchy have the vision to see it and the courage to say it? I believe it's common sense that Seventh-day Adventists shouldn't be supporting spiritualism. The real issue is that Seventh-day Adventist leaders are not more righteous than false prophets, that Ernie Knoll's attending angel has a poor command of the English language and that he sounds exactly like Ernie Knoll.

http://www.4hispeople.com/dreams.html
Shubee Duba

Rocklin, CA

#2 Apr 28, 2009
His attending angel is also theologically inaccurate at times. OOPS!
Theology Proper

North Fort Myers, FL

#3 May 1, 2009
Shubee wrote:
Ernie Knoll wrote:
The Herald turns to me and says, "It is important that His people understand while it is important that we are to return a tithe to God’s storehouse, it is equally important that they understand what the funds are being used for. If an individual is providing funds and they understand that the funds are not being used according to His will, that person will be held accountable. The Great Creator has said to pay a tribute to those who do His bidding. The Herald explains that many tributes are used toward Lucifer’s work of using spiritualism from within God’s church by those who collect and place the funds in a storehouse. The Herald says, "That is not God’s storehouse. Those that give a tribute will be able to see the blessing they give in faith when it is placed in God’s storehouse." STAND FAST, February 5, 2008.
I believe that Ernie Knoll should be respected for recognizing spiritualism in the Seventh-day Adventist church.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday...
How many Seventh-day Adventist educators or administrators in the church hierarchy have the vision to see it and the courage to say it? I believe it's common sense that Seventh-day Adventists shouldn't be supporting spiritualism. The real issue is that Seventh-day Adventist leaders are not more righteous than false prophets, that Ernie Knoll's attending angel has a poor command of the English language and that he sounds exactly like Ernie Knoll.
http://www.4hispeople.com/dreams.html
Anyone that knows the scriptures can see right through this man's claims of being a prophet..

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Theology Proper

Arcadia, FL

#4 Jul 25, 2009
Well, this should settle it..

This just posted on Ernie Knoll's website.

The 4 His People Ministry Board learned of some very disturbing information the week of July 15. This information has led us to believe that though the dreams appear to be of a supernatural source, we now believe that this source was of Satan.

Along with the meetings being cancelled and no future meetings authorized by the board, please know that Ernie and
Becky Knoll are suspended from any activity related to the 4 His People Ministry.

Please cease contributing funds to this ministry.

For those of you who read the testimony and/or received emails from someone going by the name of "Candace", we were able to determine through tracking email IP information, that Ernie Knoll is "Candace". When pressed, he admitted to this on July 21 at 2:43 pm in a phone call to two ministry board members. We have also determined that the "Great Commission Counsel" is also Ernie Knoll.

We urge everyone who has a "dream book" to throw it away, as we now understand that there are mind control elements in it.

We sincerely apologize to all who have read and believed these messages. We pray that those whose lives have been affected, including those of us on this ministry team and our families, will find closure. Thankfully, we have a loving Savior in Jesus Christ who is willing to forgive all who come to Him with sincere repentance.

While we have concerns about some of the arguments and statements made by those who openly opposed the dreams, we apologize to you specifically. We may at some time in the future ask that you consider the unscriptural positions taken, but it is clearly not appropriate at this time.

Please know that all of us involved in this ministry, only ever wanted to serve in the cause of Christ, to win souls for the kingdom.
It is our prayer that those who have returned to Jesus, as a result of these messages, will not cast Him aside. While we cannot trust in man's opinions, we can trust Jesus. Always look to Jesus for light and strength. May He find us ready, when He returns.

4 His People Ministry Board
http://www.4hispeople.com/

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#5 Jul 25, 2009
Sadly, Ernie Knoll is still pretending that he didn't fabricate everything and is now blaming his deception on a demon.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewto...

Since: Jul 09

Reno, NV

#6 Jul 26, 2009
A true prophet knows the timing of judgment and the work of the accuser.

While he may have made mistakes it would appear that there are those like Shubee and theology proper who can't see the claim for the covering of the blood of Christ.

Ernie Knoll wrote;
"Thankfully, we have a loving Savior in Jesus Christ who is willing to forgive all who come to Him with sincere repentance."

Yep even Shubee and Theology improper make the mistakes of false prophets and behave as the accuser of the brethren.

When will you too repent and step down from the judgment throne reserved for CHRIST?

The word of God is a two edged sword;
Mar 13v22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7 Jul 26, 2009
Messenger4truth wrote:
When will you too repent and step down from the judgment throne reserved for CHRIST?
Please stop interrupting my threads with your incessant off-topic whining and profoundly shameful displays of Biblical ignorance. I answered your question in a new thread just for you.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d...

Since: Jul 09

Reno, NV

#8 Jul 26, 2009
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>
Please stop interrupting my threads with your incessant off-topic whining and profoundly shameful displays of Biblical ignorance. I answered your question in a new thread just for you.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d...
Ernie Knoll wrote;
" Thankfully, we have a loving Savior in Jesus Christ who is willing to forgive all who come to Him with sincere repentance."

Shubee calls him a fraud.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#9 Jul 26, 2009
Messenger4truth wrote:
Ernie Knoll wrote;
" Thankfully, we have a loving Savior in Jesus Christ who is willing to forgive all who come to Him with sincere repentance."

Shubee calls him a fraud.
That's not exactly correct. On Jan 23, 2009, I called Ernie Knoll an obvious fraud. It's the title of this thread. On July 25, 2009, I wrote: "Sadly, Ernie Knoll is still pretending that he didn't fabricate everything and is now blaming his deception on a demon."

The relevant evidence is given here:
http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday...
http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday...

Since: Jul 09

Reno, NV

#10 Jul 26, 2009
Shubee wrote about Ernie;

"On July 25, 2009, I wrote: "Sadly, Ernie Knoll is still pretending that he didn't fabricate everything and is now blaming his deception on a demon."

1st John 3v8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil

So Ernie knows his bible and who is that accuses?

Since: Jul 09

Reno, NV

#11 Jul 26, 2009
hey Shubee,

Who is it that accuses the brethren?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#12 Jul 26, 2009
Messenger4truth wrote:
hey Shubee,
Who is it that accuses the brethren?
That would be you and your spiritual father.
Enter Witty Name Here

San Jose, CA

#13 Jul 27, 2009
Can this book really contain "mind control elements"????

Where can I get this book! I need it now. I would like to control the minds of others, as well as have my own mind controlled by Satan. Then, we could measure the "satanic" force, and PROVE beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Satan is real. Oh, praise the most holy of dark ones, Satan, please control my mind!

Or do I need the book first?

Since: Jul 09

Reno, NV

#14 Jul 27, 2009
Messenger4truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Ernie Knoll wrote;
" Thankfully, we have a loving Savior in Jesus Christ who is willing to forgive all who come to Him with sincere repentance."
Shubee calls him a fraud.
Hey Shubee repented of bearing false witness yet?

You really should take Ernies advice.

Since: Jul 09

Reno, NV

#15 Jul 27, 2009
Shubee wrote:
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That would be you and your spiritual father.
Shubee so far Ernie Scholl, DJConklin, SDA's would appear to be your spiritual father, and accusing them is the spirit of satan.

The thing about attacking others is that idolatry is the obsession not God and that is your spam agenda my friend.

I have never seen you post anything regarding JESUS CHRIST?

Why is that Shubee?
CINDERS

Sunnybank, Australia

#16 Jul 27, 2009
Messenger4truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Shubee repented of bearing false witness yet?
You really should take Ernies advice.


Shubeeee should NEVER take Ernie Knoll's advice for he is a fraud and of the devil and is NOT a messenger from God but from the devil himself. Hmmmmmmm Are you Ernie Knoll or a follower of his? For you are the first one to back Ernie Knoll on here and he has been exposed on more than one occasion of been of the devil and one only needs to read what he writes to tell it is NOT from God!!!

Since: Jul 09

Reno, NV

#17 Jul 28, 2009
Ernie Knoll wrote;
" Thankfully, we have a loving Savior in Jesus Christ who is willing to forgive all who come to Him with sincere repentance."

Cinders wrote;
Shubeeee should NEVER take Ernie Knoll's advice for he is a fraud and of the devil and is NOT a messenger from God but from the devil himself. Hmmmmmmm Are you Ernie Knoll or a follower of his? For you are the first one to back Ernie Knoll on here and he has been exposed on more than one occasion of been of the devil and one only needs to read what he writes to tell it is NOT from God!!!

Cinders I have noticed that the bible you use lets you stand in judgment instead of Christ.

Why is that?

Here is someone else who passed judgment on millions of people;
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/Catholic/Hit...

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#18 Jul 29, 2009
Messenger4truth wrote:
Ernie Knoll wrote;
" Thankfully, we have a loving Savior in Jesus Christ who is willing to forgive all who come to Him with sincere repentance."
Cinders wrote;
Shubeeee should NEVER take Ernie Knoll's advice for he is a fraud and of the devil and is NOT a messenger from God but from the devil himself. Hmmmmmmm Are you Ernie Knoll or a follower of his? For you are the first one to back Ernie Knoll on here and he has been exposed on more than one occasion of been of the devil and one only needs to read what he writes to tell it is NOT from God!!!
Cinders I have noticed that the bible you use lets you stand in judgment instead of Christ.
Why is that?
Here is someone else who passed judgment on millions of people;
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/Catholic/Hit...
Ahhh so you are "either" Ernie Knoll or a follower of his. You did not answer this question so I am saying you are either him or a die hard decieved fan!

I am saying that he is not a messesnger of God and you are the one fooled. If you think I am judging then what is it you are doing of me and others concerning this topic?

Do you actually belong to the SDA Church or are you one of these break aways also who claim to be a SDA even though you are not a part of the main Church?

Truthfully if Ernie Knoll is a true messesnger of God then his writings would show it but they do not.

He is a fraud no matter what he/you say/s .... Can a leopard change his spots....... NO!

Get real!

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#19 Jul 29, 2009
CINDERS wrote:
Ahhh so you are "either" Ernie Knoll or a follower of his. You did not answer this question so I am saying you are either him or a die hard decieved fan!
Dear Cinders,

You know how much I hate to agree with you and this post of yours make my preferences for honesty and integrity difficult. All I can say is that perhaps Messenger4truth is not Ernie Knoll or even a lunatic follower of Ernie Knoll.

We need to consider the other possibility that Sister White has mentioned for characters like M4t that are so ridiculously hateful, dishonest, and contemptuous of ordinary common sense and universally accepted Christian truth.

I don't have a list which describe the other option but there are several Spirit of prophecy testimonies like the following:

Satan and his angels will appear on this earth as men, and will mingle with those of whom God's word declares, "Some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." The world is full of men and women whom Satan uses as his agencies. Christ has bought them with a price,—even His life-blood. But they have given themselves into Satan's control. They are blind, and have forgotten that they were purged from their sins.{PH058 2.3}

Satan will use every opportunity to seduce men from their allegiance to God. He and his evil angels who fell with him will appear on the earth as men, seeking to deceive. God's angels also will appear as men, and will use every means in their power to defeat the purposes of the enemy. We have a part to act.—8MR 399.
CINDERS

Glossodia, Australia

#20 Jul 29, 2009
Shubee wrote:
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Dear Cinders,
You know how much I hate to agree with you and this post of yours make my preferences for honesty and integrity difficult. All I can say is that perhaps Messenger4truth is not Ernie Knoll or even a lunatic follower of Ernie Knoll.
We need to consider the other possibility that Sister White has mentioned for characters like M4t that are so ridiculously hateful, dishonest, and contemptuous of ordinary common sense and universally accepted Christian truth.
I don't have a list which describe the other option but there are several Spirit of prophecy testimonies like the following:
Satan and his angels will appear on this earth as men, and will mingle with those of whom God's word declares, "Some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." The world is full of men and women whom Satan uses as his agencies. Christ has bought them with a price,—even His life-blood. But they have given themselves into Satan's control. They are blind, and have forgotten that they were purged from their sins.{PH058 2.3}
Satan will use every opportunity to seduce men from their allegiance to God. He and his evil angels who fell with him will appear on the earth as men, seeking to deceive. God's angels also will appear as men, and will use every means in their power to defeat the purposes of the enemy. We have a part to act.—8MR 399.
Well Shubeeeeee dear it is not that bad agreeing with me :-)

I do agree there is truth in what Ellen G White has said in the comments you wrote above.
:-)

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