The Royal Arch Adventist Mason exposed

The Royal Arch Adventist Mason exposed

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Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#1 Mar 10, 2012
lets compile a list of Adventist RAF Masons statrting with
William Miller up to the present day.

ExPOSing number 1 William Miller

High Priest--The stations and duties of the three Grand Masters of the veils?
It was here (Poultney, Vermont) that Mr Miller became a member of the Masonic fraternity, in which his perseverance, if nothing else, was manifested; for he advanced to the highest degree which the lodges then in the country, or in that region, could confer." (Memoirs of William Miller, Sylvester Bliss, p. 21-22).

In Part 2 of the same chapter, the editors provide brief histories of Freemasonry in the county by chapter and lodge. Under “Morning Star Lodge, No. 27,” located in Poultney, the following can be found:“This lodge was organized in Poultney prior to 1800, but the exact date is not known. Among the early masters were Harris Horsford, Samuel Ruggles, Captain William Miller, Elisha Ashley, Henry G. Neal and Alonzo Howe, all prominent men.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3784540/William-Mil...

Edson and Hahn, had published at irregular intervals a little paper in Canandaigua called The Day Dawn, which heralded the coming. Its first issue was reported in the Day-Star, April 15, 1845. Now Edson said, "Let us publish this truth." Crosier, the best author in the group, was commissioned by Edson and Hahn to write the results of their research. Enoch Jacobs, a friendly Adventist editor in Cincinnati, agreed to publish the article in his journal, the Day-Star. The article came out in the Day-Star extra February 7, 1846.
http://www.adventistheritage.org/article.php...
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#2 Mar 10, 2012
When did Wm Miller become an SDA ?

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#3 Mar 10, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
When did Wm Miller become an SDA ?
Excellent question! Thanks, LW!
SGT

Perham, ME

#4 Mar 10, 2012
LW you are not even SDA, why would you defend such a thing.

I'm aware Miller was no SDA, yet SDA will defend him. He was a wicked deceiver who destroyed the entire movement. His actions show he never recanted his membership as a Freemason. In fact Miller was espousing the same false doctrine as a Jesuit in south America (LaCunza)!

During this time the FM were not as refined as today. After the Civil War the degrees were rewritten by Pike to disguise the Templar/Catholic connection. So during Miller's day it was well known FM = Templars, and Templars = Rome.

This official article attempts some damage control while still admitting Pike did this in 1855.
www.dcsr.org/history.php

(And for the record I do find 1844 fulfilled 2300 days of Dan 8:14)
Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#5 Mar 10, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
When did Wm Miller become an SDA ?


From the monment he published his support for the "shut door" belief in the WESTERN MIDNIGHT CRY DECEMBER 24 PAGE I IN WHICH HE SAID ...oUR WORK FOR THE WORLD IS DONE..... THAT PUT HIM FOR A BRIEF TIME WITH THE LITTLE GROUP OF 18 AFTER THE 1845 ALBANY CONFERENCE..who believed the shut door was not of the devil which was the ROOT STOCK of the SDA church . of which Ellen White mentioned in about the Editor of the Day Star ...

I have frequently been falsely charged with teaching views peculiar to Spiritualism. But before the editor of the Day-Star [SEE APPENDIX.] ran into that delusion,{EW 77.1}

Then I saw Laodiceans.[THE NOMINAL, OR FIRST-DAY, ADVENTISTS] They will make a mighty effort. Will they get the victory? One who has the truth will chase a thousand, and two will putten thousand to flight. They are coming to conclusions that bring them into close quarters, and they cannot tell where they be themselves, for they are lost in the foggy, terrible fear that takes hold of them. Anguish of spirit will seize them. Dare they admit that the door is shut? The sin against the Holy Ghost was to ascribe to Satan what belongs to God or what the Holy Ghost has done. They said the shut door was of the devil and now admit it is against their own lives. They shall die the death. Look ye at the Pattern. Follow Him, for He is meek and lowly in heart. Shut your eyes to everything but the present, saving truth.--Manuscript 11, 1850.(Written December 25, 1850, at Paris, Maine.)

PS YOU WILL NOT OUT SMART ME ON sda CHURCH hISTORY .

Hey boys when is your next lodge meeting?
Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#6 Mar 10, 2012
SGT wrote:
LW you are not even SDA, why would you defend such a thing.
I'm aware Miller was no SDA, yet SDA will defend him. He was a wicked deceiver who destroyed the entire movement. His actions show he never recanted his membership as a Freemason. In fact Miller was espousing the same false doctrine as a Jesuit in south America (LaCunza)!
During this time the FM were not as refined as today. After the Civil War the degrees were rewritten by Pike to disguise the Templar/Catholic connection. So during Miller's day it was well known FM = Templars, and Templars = Rome.
This official article attempts some damage control while still admitting Pike did this in 1855.
www.dcsr.org/history.php
(And for the record I do find 1844 fulfilled 2300 days of Dan 8:14)
Royal Arch Freemasonry (RAF)in the SDA church is the guiding light and cental pillar of infuence which controls and runs the church today ..well done
Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#7 Mar 10, 2012
SGT wrote:
LW you are not even SDA, why would you defend such a thing.
)
my last post answers your question.
Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#8 Mar 10, 2012
SGT wrote:
LW you are not even SDA, why would you defend such a thing.
)
Why wont people read this as blasphemy?
Ellen said..

This door was not opened until the mediation of Jesus was finished in the holy place of the sanctuary in 1844. Then Jesus rose up and SHUT THE DOOR of the holy place, and opened the door into the most holy, and passed within the second veil, where He now stands by the ark, and where the faith of Israel now reaches.{EW 42.1}
I saw that Jesus had SHUT THE DOOR of the holy place, and no man can open it; and that He had opened the door into the most holy, and no man can shut it.....{EW 42.2} THE MASON CALLS LIGHT DARKNESS AND DARKNESS LIGHT ..PURE EVIL
Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#9 Mar 10, 2012
Tim wrote:
<quoted text>
From the monment he published his support for the "shut door" belief in the WESTERN MIDNIGHT CRY DECEMBER 24 PAGE I IN WHICH HE SAID ...oUR WORK FOR THE WORLD IS DONE..... THAT PUT HIM FOR A BRIEF TIME WITH THE LITTLE GROUP OF 18 AFTER THE 1845 ALBANY CONFERENCE..who believed the shut door was not of the devil which was the ROOT STOCK of the SDA church . of which Ellen White mentioned in about the Editor of the Day Star ...
I have frequently been falsely charged with teaching views peculiar to Spiritualism. But before the editor of the Day-Star [SEE APPENDIX.] ran into that delusion,{EW 77.1}
Then I saw Laodiceans.[THE NOMINAL, OR FIRST-DAY, ADVENTISTS] They will make a mighty effort. Will they get the victory? One who has the truth will chase a thousand, and two will putten thousand to flight. They are coming to conclusions that bring them into close quarters, and they cannot tell where they be themselves, for they are lost in the foggy, terrible fear that takes hold of them. Anguish of spirit will seize them. Dare they admit that the door is shut? The sin against the Holy Ghost was to ascribe to Satan what belongs to God or what the Holy Ghost has done. They said the shut door was of the devil and now admit it is against their own lives. They shall die the death. Look ye at the Pattern. Follow Him, for He is meek and lowly in heart. Shut your eyes to everything but the present, saving truth.--Manuscript 11, 1850.(Written December 25, 1850, at Paris, Maine.)
PS YOU WILL NOT OUT SMART ME ON sda CHURCH hISTORY .
Hey boys when is your next lodge meeting?
THAT is the Western Midnight Cry 1844 dec 24 edition
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#10 Mar 10, 2012
Tim wrote:
<quoted text>
From the monment he published his support for the "shut door" belief in the WESTERN MIDNIGHT CRY DECEMBER 24 PAGE I IN WHICH HE SAID ...oUR WORK FOR THE WORLD IS DONE..... THAT PUT HIM FOR A BRIEF TIME WITH THE LITTLE GROUP OF 18 AFTER THE 1845 ALBANY CONFERENCE..who believed the shut door was not of the devil which was the ROOT STOCK of the SDA church . of which Ellen White mentioned in about the Editor of the Day Star ...
I have frequently been falsely charged with teaching views peculiar to Spiritualism. But before the editor of the Day-Star [SEE APPENDIX.] ran into that delusion,{EW 77.1}
Then I saw Laodiceans.[THE NOMINAL, OR FIRST-DAY, ADVENTISTS] They will make a mighty effort. Will they get the victory? One who has the truth will chase a thousand, and two will putten thousand to flight. They are coming to conclusions that bring them into close quarters, and they cannot tell where they be themselves, for they are lost in the foggy, terrible fear that takes hold of them. Anguish of spirit will seize them. Dare they admit that the door is shut? The sin against the Holy Ghost was to ascribe to Satan what belongs to God or what the Holy Ghost has done. They said the shut door was of the devil and now admit it is against their own lives. They shall die the death. Look ye at the Pattern. Follow Him, for He is meek and lowly in heart. Shut your eyes to everything but the present, saving truth.--Manuscript 11, 1850.(Written December 25, 1850, at Paris, Maine.)
PS YOU WILL NOT OUT SMART ME ON sda CHURCH hISTORY .
Hey boys when is your next lodge meeting?
When did Wm Miller become an SDA?

BTW - so far the presentation of SDA history is pathetic
Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#11 Mar 10, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
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When did Wm Miller become an SDA?
BTW - so far the presentation of SDA history is pathetic
you have never denied being a Royal Arch Mason

why is that????

your diversionary tactics are obvious

ps is it by chance that you are quick to hop on this thread and spew out rubbish ... that is the fact set the trap and watch them come
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#12 Mar 10, 2012
Tim wrote:
<quoted text>
you have never denied being a Royal Arch Mason
why is that????
your diversionary tactics are obvious
ps is it by chance that you are quick to hop on this thread and spew out rubbish ... that is the fact set the trap and watch them come
When did Wm Miller become an SDA?
Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#13 Mar 10, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
When did Wm Miller become an SDA?
Was william miller an Adventist?

YES
read the thread title... IT MUST BE FUN TO FOOL SO MANY WITH SO LITTLE EFFORT .

Are you a guard of the second veil or higher..?
Earthcaller

Palm Coast, FL

#14 Mar 11, 2012
Tim wrote:
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Why wont people read this as blasphemy?
Ellen said..
This door was not opened until the mediation of Jesus was finished in the holy place of the sanctuary in 1844. Then Jesus rose up and SHUT THE DOOR of the holy place, and opened the door into the most holy, and passed within the second veil, where He now stands by the ark, and where the faith of Israel now reaches.{EW 42.1}
I saw that Jesus had SHUT THE DOOR of the holy place, and no man can open it; and that He had opened the door into the most holy, and no man can shut it.....{EW 42.2} THE MASON CALLS LIGHT DARKNESS AND DARKNESS LIGHT ..PURE EVIL
This is nothing more than a transference of the agenda of corporate confession and repentance see Leviticus 4:13 to that of the Day of Atonement. By rejecting the First Angels message and the Sabbath the churches could not repent and they could not follow Jesus into the MHP and therefore became what is stated in Revelation 18:2 and 18:4. An easy way to put it would be the following. If You were called to repent as a corporate entity and accept the provision of the Final Atonement and you rejected it, your corporate entity would be lost. That is what this matter was all about.

The rest of the story is revealed in Revelation 10. The pioneers believed that the door of mercy had closed but later the command was that they had to preach to many , nations, multitudes and tongues. Ellen White's statements regarding the shut-door and the error regarding the belief in Jesus second coming in 1844 is revealed in Rev 10. It was the purpose of God that there should be two movements, the first with the chronology which would lead to the second movement, a worldwide missionary work. In other words, Daniel 8:14 culminated in the first Angels Message in 1844 whose fulfillment is found in Rev 14:6,7.

And yes, the belief in Jesus coming in 1844 was an error of the pioneers and that is why Rev 10 states that it was a scroll that was sweet but became bitter in the stomach. They were then told to prophesai again.
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#15 Mar 11, 2012
Tim wrote:
<quoted text>
Was william miller an Adventist?
YES
Was Wm Miller an SDA though?
Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#16 Mar 11, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Was Wm Miller an SDA though?
baby steps lw

THE ROYAL ARCH ADVENTIST MASON

DO you see sabbath keeper there jabby
Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#17 Mar 11, 2012
Earthcaller wrote:
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This is nothing more than a transference of the agenda of corporate confession and repentance see Leviticus 4:13 to that of the Day of Atonement. By rejecting the First Angels message and the Sabbath the churches could not repent and they could not follow Jesus into the MHP and therefore became what is stated in Revelation 18:2 and 18:4. An easy way to put it would be the following. If You were called to repent as a corporate entity and accept the provision of the Final Atonement and you rejected it, your corporate entity would be lost. That is what this matter was all about.
The rest of the story is revealed in Revelation 10. The pioneers believed that the door of mercy had closed but later the command was that they had to preach to many , nations, multitudes and tongues. Ellen White's statements regarding the shut-door and the error regarding the belief in Jesus second coming in 1844 is revealed in Rev 10. It was the purpose of God that there should be two movements, the first with the chronology which would lead to the second movement, a worldwide missionary work. In other words, Daniel 8:14 culminated in the first Angels Message in 1844 whose fulfillment is found in Rev 14:6,7.
And yes, the belief in Jesus coming in 1844 was an error of the pioneers and that is why Rev 10 states that it was a scroll that was sweet but became bitter in the stomach. They were then told to prophesai again.
not at first though as less then 20 made up the little shut door flock 99% od ADVENTISTS DID NOT EXCEPT ELLEN THE SPRITUALISER AS THEY CALLED HER AND THE MESMERISER OR THE SHUT DOOR
Earthcaller

Palm Coast, FL

#18 Mar 11, 2012
Tim wrote:
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not at first though as less then 20 made up the little shut door flock 99% od ADVENTISTS DID NOT EXCEPT ELLEN THE SPRITUALISER AS THEY CALLED HER AND THE MESMERISER OR THE SHUT DOOR
Your statement is not making any sense and I detect a shakiness in your thinking. Revelation 10 clearly presents the situation with two distinct movements. The matter of an Angel coming down always relates to a message of great importance and the great disappointment is clearly illustrated in Rev 10. The saints who lived during that time believed that the door of mercy was going to close for the simple fact that Jesus was coming soon.

Sure, there was a disappointment on account of an error but the fact is that in spite of that error, the double calling of the Millerites and the Adventists served to fulfill the purpose of God as stated in Rev 10.

The second factor is found in the matter of the Agendas of the Sanctuary itself. Corporate repentance Leviticus 4:13 leads the Congregation into the Day of Atonement. If there is no corporate repentance there cannot be any corporate cleansing.

The professed Sunday keeping churches needed to repent and to stop mocking the message of the Millerite Chronology which was correct and they needed to fall into line with what is stated in the first Angels Message. "Worship him that created the heavens and the earth and the seas".= A call back to the Sabbath. Even the NIV study notes refer the reader of Rev 14:6,7 "who created the heavens and the earth", back to Exodus 20:11
Tim

Mcmahons Point, Australia

#19 Mar 11, 2012
Earthcaller wrote:
<quoted text>
Your statement is not making any sense and I detect a shakiness in your thinking. Revelation 10 clearly presents the situation with two distinct movements. The matter of an Angel coming down always relates to a message of great importance and the great disappointment is clearly illustrated in Rev 10. The saints who lived during that time believed that the door of mercy was going to close for the simple fact that Jesus was coming soon.
Sure, there was a disappointment on account of an error but the fact is that in spite of that error, the double calling of the Millerites and the Adventists served to fulfill the purpose of God as stated in Rev 10.
The second factor is found in the matter of the Agendas of the Sanctuary itself. Corporate repentance Leviticus 4:13 leads the Congregation into the Day of Atonement. If there is no corporate repentance there cannot be any corporate cleansing.
The professed Sunday keeping churches needed to repent and to stop mocking the message of the Millerite Chronology which was correct and they needed to fall into line with what is stated in the first Angels Message. "Worship him that created the heavens and the earth and the seas".= A call back to the Sabbath. Even the NIV study notes refer the reader of Rev 14:6,7 "who created the heavens and the earth", back to Exodus 20:11
BE CARFULL AS TO WHOSE HANDS ARE SHAPING YOUR CLAY
read first hand ellen first vision and see the words never before seen becuase they knew from the beginning she was deluded goto page Seven look under Ellen G Harmon
http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/WMC/WMC...

and if you are hungry for truth about what actually happened read some of these original papers it tells a whole different story AS A SDA Historian this is where I get my proof not spectulation
http://www.adventistarchives.org/documents.as...

dont just react but listen and learn because to him the answer a matter before he hear it to Him it is folly and shame
Earthcaller

Palm Coast, FL

#20 Mar 11, 2012
Tim wrote:
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BE CARFULL AS TO WHOSE HANDS ARE SHAPING YOUR CLAY
read first hand ellen first vision and see the words never before seen becuase they knew from the beginning she was deluded goto page Seven look under Ellen G Harmon
http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/WMC/WMC...
and if you are hungry for truth about what actually happened read some of these original papers it tells a whole different story AS A SDA Historian this is where I get my proof not spectulation
http://www.adventistarchives.org/documents.as...
dont just react but listen and learn because to him the answer a matter before he hear it to Him it is folly and shame
My answer has nothing to do with a defense of Ellen White, it has to do with the fact that the Bible does present two movements in Rev 10. The first presented a correct chronology but they also believed in the error of Jesus second coming in order to cleanse the earth with fire which to them was the Sanctuary. So it is obvious that their belief was centered in the Sanctuary. Rev 10 then presents this matter as the bitter scroll experience or Great Disappointment and later the command is given to preach again to many peoples nations multitudes and tongues. Everything that took place can be accounted for.

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