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<quoted text>Clown Martin.

In post 1900 you said the SEEDS reprents people and NOW you are saying the SOIL also represents the HEART's of PEOPLE!
So, can you confirm to the readers that you believe the SEEDS represents People and the soil represents people's HEART?!

Who does the sower represent? God, Santa, Uncle Bill, Frank Sinatra or Martin the clown?

post 1900> http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d...
Jesus said so not me!!!

I am just the messanger, repeating His words.

Your attempt to get me on a technicality will fail you flat on your face!!!

I will repost the Bible verse and let you fight against it! I will enjoy the show while you argue against Jesus's own words!!!

You are attempting to put human logic on Jesus's divine and higher level logic words, that you can not even comprehend!!!

Here is Jesus's words, go at it:

“Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: When PEOPLE hear the message about the kingdom and do not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their hearts. This is the seed sown along the path. The seed falling on rocky ground REFERS TO PEOPLE who hear the word and at once receive it with joy...(Matthew 13:18-20 TNIV)

Go at it DANNO, correct Jesus's words!!

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Dennis wrote:
<quoted text>Your statement is true. But how do you KNOW for sure that it is the true Holy Spirit that is giving you your information without WORDS. It is a very Zen concept that 'feelings' provided by the Holy Spirit are a true guide ("May the Force be with you".) Without the actual WORDS of Jesus that act as a comparison you could never know with certainty whether what you believe is actually true. Feelings can lie, if that is all you use as your source for information. Jesus told us that the Holy Spirit would lead us into ALL truth; and the way this is accomplished is that the Spirit of Truth gives us the understanding of the Words of God in the OT and the Words of Jesus in the NT such that we have concrete evidence from those words as to what is or isn't truth.

Again, you are correct in saying that it is ONLY those in the Kingdom of Heaven that have a chance to know the truth. If you are in the kingdom of the world you will NEVER know the truth.
Correct!

And yes, feelings ate deceptive sometimes so follow them not!!!

The Words of Jesus is in the Law and the Bible.

It is not about following the Law but about following the intentions and the spirit of the law!

To be perfect!!!

We can still be saved by blindly following the law but only the spirit of the law brings PERFECTION!!!

Love makes you perfect!!!

God wants perfect people!!!

And yes we can be perfect as we grow into love.
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DANNO wrote:
Parable of the SOWER in Matt 13: 2-9 what do the SEEDS represent?
1. SEEDS represent=?
2. Field represents=?
Mr MartinJosie said the SEEDS represents people. How many here agree with him on that?
Mr Kia says the SEEDS represents the WORD of GOD. How many of you agree with Mr Kia?
Dan
Seed = faith.

Romans 12:3
For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Faith calls us to come to the Word/Jesus, to seek Him. We chose to listen or surpress this call. Men can follow the call in their heart without ever having heard one bit of the Bible or the name of Jesus.

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Romans 2:14-16

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Sep 14, 2012
 
sitkahappy wrote:
<quoted text>Seed = faith.

Romans 12:3
For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Faith calls us to come to the Word/Jesus, to seek Him. We chose to listen or surpress this call. Men can follow the call in their heart without ever having heard one bit of the Bible or the name of Jesus.

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Romans 2:14-16
Interesting!
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Sep 14, 2012
 
sitkahappy wrote:
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Seed = faith.
Luke 8:11

Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

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Sep 15, 2012
 
DANNO wrote:
<quoted text>ClownMartin

The "SEEDS" in Matt 13: 2-9 represents the WORD of GOD!! NOT people!

The GOOD SEEDS in Matt 13: 24-26 represents the WORD of GOD in the BIBLE!

The SEEDS of "WEEDS" in Matt 13: 24-26 represents the WORDS of SATAN that are PLANTED in the NT by his servants. REV 2: 2

The "FIELD" in MATT 13: 24-26 represents the NT BIBLE

Dan
Those are two different parables, dude!
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Sep 15, 2012
 
Lay Worker wrote:
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Luke 8:11
Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
And Jesus is the Word?

Luke 8:12
'...then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of theirs HEARTS.'

Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him,

John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice;
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DANNO wrote:
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Romans 12:3 THIS is a seed of "WEEDS" Because JESUS said MANY are called but few are chosen because they CHOSE the WIDE road and NOT the NARROW road! Did GOD or SATAN guide them unto the WIDE ROAD??
Jesus also said they worship him with their LIPS but their HEARTS are are NOT in HIM! Matt 15: 8-9 & John 4: 24 & Matt 7: 21-23 & PROV 28: 9
"WEEDS" by Satan's No1 SERVANT> see REV 2: 2 SEE ROM 2: 13 with GAL 3: 11 & ROM 3: 28 & ROM 10: 4 with ROM 7: 12
"For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith."
REV 20: 12 & John 5: 28-29 also proves Paul wrong!
Blessings
Dan
Dan,

Jesus stands at the door of our heart, gently knocking, asking to come in and have a relationship with us.(Rev 3:20) His is a still, small voice (1 Kings 19:12) we can easily shut out.
This voice does not speak to the carnal person, but the spiritual person. His word, his faith, his spirit, and his kingdom are found in our hearts.

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith...

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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#76
Sep 15, 2012
 
DANNO wrote:
<quoted text>ClownMartin.

That's EXCATLY what I have been saying all the time! That's why I give the Bible quotes with the verses!!

Dan
That is why you are so confused!!!
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Sep 15, 2012
 
DANNO wrote:
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What do the WEEDS represent in MATT 13: 24-26?
Who or what does the FIELD represent in MATT 13: 24-26?
dan
Dan,

What exactly do you represent?
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Sep 16, 2012
 
sitkahappy wrote:
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Dan,
What exactly do you represent?
SickHAPPY

That is a QUESTION and NOT an answer to my spiritual questions!

Did the HOLY Spirit inspire your reply or Mr LOST Worker?

Dan
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DANNO wrote:
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SickHAPPY
That is a QUESTION and NOT an answer to my spiritual questions!
Did the HOLY Spirit inspire your reply or Mr LOST Worker?
Dan
Let me correct that for you; what/who does Dan represent?
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Let me correct that for you; what/who does Dan represent?
SickHAPPY

Again, that is a question NOT an ANSWER! I did say that some have shifted their brains to their backside! This proves I'm right!!! Once again!

Dan
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DANNO wrote:
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SickHAPPY
Again, that is a question NOT an ANSWER! I did say that some have shifted their brains to their backside! This proves I'm right!!! Once again!
Dan
So you don't know what you represent?
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So you don't know what you represent?
Go to a VET and ask him to put your brains back where they were before you became an ADULT and a servant of SATAN and re-READ my post again!
Now, do you want me to prove you are an ENEMY of JESUS yes or no?

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DANNO wrote:
<quoted text>SickHAPPY

That is a QUESTION and NOT an answer to my spiritual questions!

Did the HOLY Spirit inspire your reply or Mr LOST Worker?

Dan
Still asking idiotic question?

How many times do we need to answer and put up with your incompetence?

We had already answered your idiotic questions and you run away from our powerful answers!

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sitkahappy wrote:
<quoted text>Let me correct that for you; what/who does Dan represent?
DANNO represents doctrinal confusion from an incompetent brother that is simply mistaken!
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Sep 17, 2012
 
martinezjosei wrote:
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Jesus said so not me!!!
I am just the messanger, repeating His words.
Your attempt to get me on a technicality will fail you flat on your face!!!
I will repost the Bible verse and let you fight against it! I will enjoy the show while you argue against Jesus's own words!!!
You are attempting to put human logic on Jesus's divine and higher level logic words, that you can not even comprehend!!!
Here is Jesus's words, go at it:
“Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: When PEOPLE hear the message about the kingdom and do not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their hearts. This is the seed sown along the path. The seed falling on rocky ground REFERS TO PEOPLE who hear the word and at once receive it with joy...(Matthew 13:18-20 TNIV)
Go at it DANNO, correct Jesus's words!!
The seeds are the words that the sower (Jesus) sowed. The people are just the ones who HEARD those words (seed) and had to do something with those words. Jesus NEVER said that the seeds were people as Jesus never sowed people, but He did come here to testify to the WORDS of the Father. He who has ears HEAR those same words and DO SOMTHING with them!
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martinezjosei wrote:
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DANNO represents doctrinal confusion from an incompetent brother that is simply mistaken!
I would love to have Dan tell us what he represents, but I don't think he knows for sure. I know it's bad but I do like pulling his chain once and a while. He must think his insults hurt my feelings but he really makes me laugh.
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DANNO wrote:
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That is a QUESTION and NOT an answer to my spiritual questions!

Dan
I'm sorry Dan, but I've never seen an honest spiritual question out of you in all the time I've been on here.

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