Ellen White's LOVES Abortion!
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martinezjosei

Westerville, OH

#1 Feb 13, 2012
Adventist Today

http://www.atoday.org/article.php...

"I am proud of our Adventist Hospitals for their work and progress in the medical field today. But I do not think our hospitals should offer abortion as a birth control method. I believe we should stand by our SDA beliefs - abortions are wrong and against our conservative take on life." - Brittany

"To have an abortion performed in our hospitals, I believe it needs to be a very specific case. If the mother will die, if the woman was raped and is not mature enough physically or emotionally to handle the child, or if she is unstable to the point where she could not handle the pregnancy, then it's ok. I don't believe God would want someone to lose their mind over a pregnancy they had no control over. However, if you were just simply irresponsible, it's time to take some accountability - you deserve your fate and should have to keep the child." - Megan
martinezjosei

Westerville, OH

#2 Feb 13, 2012
Adventist Doctors LOVE Abortion, too!

!!!! ADVENTISTS *LOVE* ABORTIONS !!!!

Catholics Value Life More Than Seventh-Day Adventists.

http://great-controversy-movie.com/blog/...

Yesterday there was a large rally in Washington D.C. supporting the right of the unborn to be born, instead of murdered. March for Life article

There is even an article in The Washington Post with the almost-mocking title: Seventh-Day Adventists and Abortion.

But the denomination may be the only theologically conservative Protestant group that allows elective abortions. Many of their own members didn’t know that their worldwide hospital network performed the procedure, which has been quite the discussion on the Adventists for Life Facebook page. A number of posters were shocked to learn the denomination’s stance.

What is sad to see, is the Roman Catholic church is in the forefront of upholding God’s commandments in this situation. We Seventh-day Adventists like to huff and puff about how the Catholics have changed the 4th commandment, and done away with the 2nd, but where are we when it comes to the 6th? Why are we so silent? Could it possibly be because we are making money on killing the innocent? Adventist hospital allows abortions.

What happened? How can a church who definitely IS the remnant church of God condone in any way the killing of the most helpless – the unborn? How hypocritical is it that of the many “conservative” SDA “ministries” out there, there are zero well-known ones supporting the unborn, and perhaps only 2 or 3 in existence at all? It was a very noticeable absence at the last General Conference Session in Atlanta to see many ministries doing wonderful things with spreading the gospel, with promoting health, with promoting education etc., and yet not even ONE ministry devoted to saving the most helpless! What happened to the spirit of the pioneers who went as far as to defy the laws of the land to protect slaves?

Might the problem lie with MONEY, and also with the fact, as noted in this article, that the abortion issue is “divisive”?
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martinezjosei

Westerville, OH

#3 Feb 13, 2012
The church of Lysimachus and 3angelsMessage

Seventh-Day Adventists and abortion
http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/und ...

Seventh-Day Adventists and abortion
Christians of all denominations are gathering on the National Mall today to protest the 38th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide. But one denomination that may be sparsely represented is Seventh-day Adventists whose large worldwide network of 170 hospitals allows elective abortions.

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But the denomination may be the only theologically conservative Protestant group that allows ELECTIVE abortions. Many of their own members didn't know that their worldwide hospital network performed the procedure, which has been quite the discussion on the Adventists for Life Facebook page. A number of posters were shocked to learn the denomination's stance.

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"I can't belong to a organization who advocates abortion," one poster wrote. "I believe in Christ my Saviour, the Sabbath & etc. I believe in Sister White also," referring to Ellen G. White, one of the revered founders of the denomination

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Another poster said that Adventists opposed abortion until 1970. That is when Hawaii legalized abortion and Castle Memorial Hospital, an Adventist institution in Kailua, Hawaii, the poster said, was pressured by its own doctors, and donors, to start offering abortions. At the time, Adventist leaders in Washington indicated they did not oppose the procedure and thus, more Adventist hospitals began offering the procedure. In 1992, the denomination issued these guidelines on abortion. The official position of the church is that abortion is allowed in "extraordinary circumstances."
SDA evangelist Kevin Paulson has given the longest defense of the church's position here where he agrees the church essentially has no restrictions on the practice and might do well to restrict it more. "Many [Adventists] are forming opinions about abortion," he wrote, "not from the study of Scripture or the Spirit of Prophecy (Ellen G. White's) writings, but from listening to popular Christian leaders like James Dobson, Tim LaHaye, Franky Schaeffer, and Bill Gothard," all of whom oppose abortion.

http://great-controversy-movie.com/blog/...

“There is no way you can justify or explain away the fact that SDA hospitals perform abortions. Sickens me how you claim to be a true church of God and preach about the Sabbath yet totally ignore murder in your own hospitals.
You may be able to soothe your minds and
find ways to get around a blatant disregard of truth, but I think you‘ll find it harder to explain your ways to God when the time comes. Upholding the Sabbath is not going to excuse your
murdering on a daily basis. The true church of God would not conform to the ways of the world and the Seventh Day Adventists have. I pity you.”

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Seventh-Day-Advent...
martinezjosei

Westerville, OH

#4 Feb 13, 2012
Facebook Removes ‘Adventists for Life’ Page After Infringement Complaint

Facebook has removed a page for a group calling itself Adventists for Life after the Seventh-Day Adventists claimed trademark infringement.

Seventh Day Adventist spokesman Garrett Caldwell told the Washington Post that "Adventist" and "SDA" are trademarked and registered names. "We are working hard to try to protect the name and organization associated with the name," he said.

SDA PROUDLY AND LEGALLY HIDDING ABORTION FROM YOU, IDIOT !!!
martinezjosei

Westerville, OH

#5 Feb 13, 2012
Facebook Removes ‘Adventists for Life’ Page After Infringement Complaint

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/facebo...
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#6 Feb 13, 2012
martinezjosei wrote:
Adventist Today
http://www.atoday.org/article.php...
"I am proud of our Adventist Hospitals for their work and progress in the medical field today. But I do not think our hospitals should offer abortion as a birth control method. I believe we should stand by our SDA beliefs - abortions are wrong and against our conservative take on life." - Brittany
"To have an abortion performed in our hospitals, I believe it needs to be a very specific case. If the mother will die, if the woman was raped and is not mature enough physically or emotionally to handle the child, or if she is unstable to the point where she could not handle the pregnancy, then it's ok. I don't believe God would want someone to lose their mind over a pregnancy they had no control over. However, if you were just simply irresponsible, it's time to take some accountability - you deserve your fate and should have to keep the child." - Megan
Good post Megan, but hey, it's not about killing, it's all about the MONEY! Some people must be pissed though because of the plane one major abortion doctor was killed in up in Montana last year.
KoalaGums

Albury, Australia

#7 Feb 14, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text>
Good post Megan, but hey, it's not about killing, it's all about the MONEY! Some people must be pissed though because of the plane one major abortion doctor was killed in up in Montana last year.
U reckon, Rocky? In that case, the Adventist hospitals would be hitmen.

Since: Oct 08

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#8 Feb 14, 2012
This is quite a hot topic... I see most people are avoiding it like the plague!

So let's start a debate (which means I present one side of the argument without necessarily believing in it... nor the opposing side)

Josee,

Are abortions acceptable or unacceptable? Are there any exceptions to your stance?
KoalaGums

Albury, Australia

#9 Feb 14, 2012
I wonder if there are any dingoes hanging around outside the SDA abortion clinic?
martinezjosei

Westerville, OH

#10 Feb 14, 2012
Ce que je pense wrote:
This is quite a hot topic... I see most people are avoiding it like the plague!
So let's start a debate (which means I present one side of the argument without necessarily believing in it... nor the opposing side)
Josee,
Are abortions acceptable or unacceptable? Are there any exceptions to your stance?
Let me answer you with another question:

#1. If you were a baby ready to join us into this wonderful world, would you like being killed, destroyed piece by piece because your father raped your mommy?

#2. Because if you are born your already alive mom will die?

#3. Because your father is also the father of your mommy?

#4. Because you will be an inconvenience to your mommy?
KoalaGums

Albury, Australia

#13 Feb 15, 2012
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me answer you with another question:
#1. If you were a baby ready to join us into this wonderful world, would you like being killed, destroyed piece by piece because your father raped your mommy?
#2. Because if you are born your already alive mom will die?
#3. Because your father is also the father of your mommy?
#4. Because you will be an inconvenience to your mommy?
Well, the Dugard and Fritzl kids didn't choose to be the result of rape/incest. But they're alive, which is the main thing.
martinezjosei

Potosi, MO

#14 Feb 15, 2012
DANNO wrote:
<quoted text>Rocky
The SDA stinking LYING SHIP is of the DEVIL and all those that DEFEND their SHIP are also co-workers of the DEVIL do you agrre Rocky? Why is your name still in their membership and why do you worship in SDA churches of SATAN?
I hope you have a good xplanation?

How is dennis by the way? He does not post here anymore. Why?

Dan
Rats, abandon ship!
martinezjosei

Potosi, MO

#15 Feb 15, 2012
DANNO wrote:
<quoted text>martin.

Keep up the GOOD work in exposing the SDA stinking lying ship!! People need to know the hidden truth about them! They make me sick to the stomach!

Dan
Makes you sick to the stomach?

Are you pregnant?

You should visit one of the Adventist baby killing factory, they can "help" you for free!

Do you know if after the Adventist doctors kill the babies, do they give a copy of the Ellen White's books on God's love, or then one that says "let the children come to me (in one single piece)"?
martinezjosei

Potosi, MO

#16 Feb 15, 2012
KoalaGums wrote:
<quoted text>Well, the Dugard and Fritzl kids didn't choose to be the result of rape/incest. But they're alive, which is the main thing.
How would you like to be destroyed? By acid, by sucking your brain out or by cutting you into pieces?
martinezjosei

Potosi, MO

#17 Feb 15, 2012
DANNO wrote:
<quoted text>martin.

Keep up the GOOD work in exposing the SDA stinking lying ship!! People need to know the hidden truth about them! They make me sick to the stomach!

Dan
Thanks!
martinezjosei

Potosi, MO

#18 Feb 15, 2012
If going to Church is Sunday worshipping

Then

Killing babies is CHILD SACRIFICE!

Which one is WORST?
martinezjosei

Potosi, MO

#19 Feb 15, 2012
Let's see...

Based on the Adventist doctrine:

Going to church on Sunday gets you the MARK OF THE BEAST

But

Killing a baby gets you the blessing of the remnant church!

And if lucky, you might be one of the 144,000!
martinezjosei

Westerville, OH

#20 Feb 15, 2012
Ellen White says that we will be held accountable for the light we have been given. We are intimately aquatinted with the facts surrounding the SDA abortion guidelines therefore are obligated to act upon that light.

It is a strange and evil church that would require its members to go against their consciences (i. e. abortion issue). Loyalty to a faulty church holds no merit with Christ, only loyalty to Him.

"Washington Adventist Hospital in Takoma Park has become an abortion mill."

"SDA's take a stand against caffeine, unclean meats, card playing, gambling, dancing, and jewelry--but not killing unborn children! Can this be possible? We claim to be commandment keeping people, we hold the Sabbath banner high, yet we are murdering children in our hospitals. There is little difference between this and the Israelites sacrificing their children to Molech. SDA's remind their Christian contemporaries of the fourth commandment but forget the sixth! To remain a member of a church that is pro-choice torments my conscience."

http://www.formeradventist.com/stories/teresa ...

ADVENTIST HOSPITALS KILL MORE BABIES, PERFORM MORE ABORTIONS THAN ANY HOSPITALS IN AMERICA!!!!!

AND THEY DO IT FOR THE MONEY, SO THEY SAID!
KoalaGums

Albury, Australia

#21 Feb 15, 2012
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
How would you like to be destroyed? By acid, by sucking your brain out or by cutting you into pieces?
YUK! But I get your point...
martinezjosei

Westerville, OH

#22 Feb 16, 2012
KoalaGums wrote:
<quoted text>YUK! But I get your point...
Yuk?

More like "Oh my God!"

Abortion IS child sacrifice!

But to whom?

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