The King of the South will soon rise

The King of the South will soon rise

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Earthcaller

Palm Coast, FL

#1 Jan 31, 2011
Earthcaller

Palm Coast, FL

#2 Feb 1, 2011
A regional power is forming in the middle east just as it was foretold in Daniel 11: the push against the King of the North is coming and he will respond with the whirlwind.
wensday

Santa Clara, CA

#3 Feb 2, 2011
Earthcaller wrote:
A regional power is forming in the middle east just as it was foretold in Daniel 11: the push against the King of the North is coming and he will respond with the whirlwind.
Thank you for the post.

However, isn't the king of the South atheism as expressed in the French Revolution and perpetuated by Communist regimes?

Hasn't that king been overthrown by the king of the North (the Papacy) in Europe? With the aid of the USA?

Isn't Islam a distraction, a smoke-screen, scapegoat for the Serpent to use as he establishes himself as an angel of light through the Papacy?
David Koot

Petaluma, CA

#4 Feb 2, 2011
wensday wrote:
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Thank you for the post.
However, isn't the king of the South atheism as expressed in the French Revolution and perpetuated by Communist regimes?
Hasn't that king been overthrown by the king of the North (the Papacy) in Europe? With the aid of the USA?
Isn't Islam a distraction, a smoke-screen, scapegoat for the Serpent to use as he establishes himself as an angel of light through the Papacy?
I tend to agree, Islam is a smokescreen, a convenient flash point.

As for who the king of the north is, there are different views indeed, as well as what the glorious land is.
Earthcaller

Palm Coast, FL

#5 Feb 3, 2011
wensday wrote:
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Thank you for the post.
However, isn't the king of the South atheism as expressed in the French Revolution and perpetuated by Communist regimes?
Hasn't that king been overthrown by the king of the North (the Papacy) in Europe? With the aid of the USA?
Isn't Islam a distraction, a smoke-screen, scapegoat for the Serpent to use as he establishes himself as an angel of light through the Papacy?
That is just a historic SDA interpretation. Two power blocks are now forming and one of them will soon begin to push against the other and the King of the North will respond with a whirlwind force. The prophecy is clear and tells us which countries are going to fall. Egypt is one of them. Right now the ground work is being laid down for the transformation of this vital US ally.

Iran is claiming credit for those uprisings. Its in the news

This prophecy cannot be spiritualized away it is a literal prophecy . The Catholic prophecy looks at the formation of the King of the North in positive terms as the coming Great Monarch. But the Bible doesn't present it in positive terms.

This is non other than the arrival of the 7th head. Even Catholic prophecies state that the anti-christ comes after the Great Monarch this is correct on account of the fact that Revelation 17:16 mentions the betrayal of the woman by way of the 8th head. I don't give credit to the RC on account of the fact that someone in the spirit world is aware of his own program of deception for the last days as well as the fact that these are non biblical prophecies which still harbor inconsistancies just as Nostradamus does.

Even the Irish seer Malachi was describing Revelation 18 when he spoke about the last Pope being Petrus Romanos. Whoever that individual is, he will be betrayed by the Beast who is the 8th head. Its all in Revelation 17:16 and Revelation 18.

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#6 Feb 3, 2011
Earthcaller wrote:
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That is just a historic SDA interpretation. Two power blocks are now forming and one of them will soon begin to push against the other and the King of the North will respond with a whirlwind force. The prophecy is clear and tells us which countries are going to fall. Egypt is one of them. Right now the ground work is being laid down for the transformation of this vital US ally.
Iran is claiming credit for those uprisings. Its in the news
This prophecy cannot be spiritualized away it is a literal prophecy . The Catholic prophecy looks at the formation of the King of the North in positive terms as the coming Great Monarch. But the Bible doesn't present it in positive terms.
This is non other than the arrival of the 7th head. Even Catholic prophecies state that the anti-christ comes after the Great Monarch this is correct on account of the fact that Revelation 17:16 mentions the betrayal of the woman by way of the 8th head. I don't give credit to the RC on account of the fact that someone in the spirit world is aware of his own program of deception for the last days as well as the fact that these are non biblical prophecies which still harbor inconsistancies just as Nostradamus does.
Even the Irish seer Malachi was describing Revelation 18 when he spoke about the last Pope being Petrus Romanos. Whoever that individual is, he will be betrayed by the Beast who is the 8th head. Its all in Revelation 17:16 and Revelation 18.
*** sighs and cries over the abominations ***
Earthcaller

Palm Coast, FL

#7 Feb 3, 2011
theCircle wrote:
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*** sighs and cries over the abominations ***
Well please define what you are talking about, whose abomination?
Doubting Thomas

Vancouver, WA

#8 Feb 3, 2011
Earthcaller wrote:
A regional power is forming in the middle east just as it was foretold in Daniel 11: the push against the King of the North is coming and he will respond with the whirlwind.
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Dan11:40And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
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Chapter 40 was fulfilled in the late 1980’s, The King of the North is the Papacy, the King of the south was the USSR, it is no more.
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Dan11:41He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
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The Papacy will spiritually enter into the “glorious land”,(the U.S.of A.) when we abrogate our founding principal,(religious freedom), and change our constitution to make Sunday our national day of worship.
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America will then suffer national ruin.
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Doubting Thomas
A Voice In The Wilderness

Vineland, NJ

#9 Feb 3, 2011
Earthcaller wrote:
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Even the Irish seer Malachi was describing Revelation 18 when he spoke about the last Pope being Petrus Romanos. Whoever that individual is, he will be betrayed by the Beast who is the 8th head. Its all in Revelation 17:16 and Revelation 18.
This told me all I needed to know.

You are treading on dangerous ground.
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#10 Feb 3, 2011
A Voice In The Wilderness wrote:
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This told me all I needed to know.
You are treading on dangerous ground.
Now please share why.... you draw this conclusion

Have you identified the King of the North and the South as well as the other king of 11:36
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#11 Feb 3, 2011
Doubting Thomas wrote:
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The Papacy will spiritually enter into the “glorious land”,(the U.S.of A.) when we abrogate our founding principal,(religious freedom), and change our constitution to make Sunday our national day of worship.
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America will then suffer national ruin.
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Doubting Thomas
a problem in the above note
that USA is the glorious holy land

thats evangelical idea and now embraced lovingly by SDA's

the 'seas' are not the Atlantic and Pacific
Doubting Thomas

Vancouver, WA

#12 Feb 4, 2011
Lay Worker wrote:
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a problem in the above note
that USA is the glorious holy land
thats evangelical idea and now embraced lovingly by SDA's
the 'seas' are not the Atlantic and Pacific
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Lay Worker what problem do you see?
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the glorious land, nothing holy about it, is America.
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the seas are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and toungues.
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Rev17:15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
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Doubting Thomas
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#13 Feb 4, 2011
A bit of geography clears up theological sinus

The glorious holy mountain was referred earlier in Dan 9:16. God said it was Jerusalem.

Thommo sez its USA.
LW prefers God's word.

That would make the oceans of the Atlantic and Pacific surrounding the USA notionally and logically redundant. The 'seas' of 11:45 are Great sea,[Mediteraean], Dead sea, and sea of Gallilee.

BTW

Your reference to the Whore and seas of Rev 17 actually blurs who sat in the glorious holy mountain at the time of DAn 11:45.

There have been a slather of SDA ministers who preach what you are sharing Thommo. But a few checks here and there idicate they are misinterpreting and misapplying the prophecies of Dan & Rev
Doubting Thomas

Vancouver, WA

#14 Feb 4, 2011
Lay Worker wrote:
A bit of geography clears up theological sinus
The glorious holy mountain was referred earlier in Dan 9:16. God said it was Jerusalem.
Thommo sez its USA.
LW prefers God's word.
That would make the oceans of the Atlantic and Pacific surrounding the USA notionally and logically redundant. The 'seas' of 11:45 are Great sea,[Mediteraean], Dead sea, and sea of Gallilee.
BTW
Your reference to the Whore and seas of Rev 17 actually blurs who sat in the glorious holy mountain at the time of DAn 11:45.
There have been a slather of SDA ministers who preach what you are sharing Thommo. But a few checks here and there idicate they are misinterpreting and misapplying the prophecies of Dan & Rev
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DT SEZ: <<<Dan11:41He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
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The Papacy will spiritually enter into the “glorious land”,(the U.S.of A.) when we abrogate our founding principal,(religious freedom), and change our constitution to make Sunday our national day of worship.>>>
LAY WORKER SEZ” <<<a problem in the above note
that USA is the glorious holy land

thats evangelical idea and now embraced lovingly by SDA's

the 'seas' are not the Atlantic and Pacific>>>
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DT SEZ: <<<Lay Worker what problem do you see?
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the glorious land, nothing holy about it, is America.
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the seas are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and toungues.
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Rev17:15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.>>>
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LAY WORKER SEZ: <<< A bit of geography clears up theological sinus
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The glorious holy mountain was referred earlier in Dan 9:16. God said it was Jerusalem.>>>
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Lay Worker, the glorious land, and the glorious Holy MT, are not the same.
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If you look back you will see I was commenting on Daniel 11:41.
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Doubting Thomas

Since: Jul 09

United States

#15 Feb 4, 2011
Earthcaller wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f a=PAGE.view&pageId=257681
The real question is has Jesus risen in your heart?

2nd Peter 1v19
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

v20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

"God gives no man a message that it will be five years or ten years or twenty years before this earth's history shall close. He would not give any living being an excuse for delaying the preparation for His appearing. He would have no one say, as did the unfaithful servant, "My lord delayeth his coming," for this leads to reckless neglect of the opportunities and privileges given to prepare us for that great day.--RH Nov. 27, 1900.{LDE 34.2}

Time-setting Leads to Unbelief

Because the times repeatedly set have passed, the world is in a more decided state of unbelief than before in regard to the near advent of Christ. They look upon the failures of the time-setters with disgust, and because men have been so deceived, they turn from the truth substantiated by the Word of God that the end of all things is at hand.--4T 307 (1879).{LDE 34.3}"

Romans 8v38
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
v39
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Jesus said:
John 16v33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
Doubting Thomas

Vancouver, WA

#16 Feb 4, 2011
wensday wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for the post.
However, isn't the king of the South atheism as expressed in the French Revolution and perpetuated by Communist regimes?
Hasn't that king been overthrown by the king of the North (the Papacy) in Europe? With the aid of the USA?
Isn't Islam a distraction, a smoke-screen, scapegoat for the Serpent to use as he establishes himself as an angel of light through the Papacy?
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You are right wensday, the king of the south is dead. The Pope conspired with Ronald Reagan to destroy the USSR.
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Carl Bernstein, of Woodward and Bernstein fame, wrote a book all about it.
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Among the many books written about Pope John Paul II, the book by Carl Bernstein and Marco Politi, His Holiness, stands out.
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Islam is represented by the 4 winds that are being restrained by the 4 Angles.
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Satan is no doubt using Islam.
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1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
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2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
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3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
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Doubting Thomas
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#17 Feb 5, 2011
If the KoS is dead,
that defeats 11:40
and cannot come against
the king of 11:36.

The glorious land 11:41
contains the glorious
holy mountain [vs 45].

The USSR, north of the
glorious land cannot
be the KoS as suggested
Earthcaller

Palm Coast, FL

#19 Feb 5, 2011
Problem with most SDAs whether mainline or independent is that they are Parrots who trumpet the party line of their theological administration and don't study on their own. You will not only have to deal with the 7 th head, you will also have to deal with the ascendant 8th as well.

Read what Ellen White mentions as taking place after the Loud Cry. Many of different multitudes nations and tongues will find themselves in slavery. What she is now referring too is the ascendant 8th head a dictator.

Keep in mind that the reason for the Loud Cry of Revelation 18 stems from the fact that the impure woman is betrayed by the 8th ascendant head which she doesn't ride over. She only sits over 7 Kings but not the ascendant 8th who comes from the 7th.
Earthcaller

Palm Coast, FL

#20 Feb 5, 2011
Messenger4truth wrote:
<quoted text>
The real question is has Jesus risen in your heart?
2nd Peter 1v19
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
v20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
"God gives no man a message that it will be five years or ten years or twenty years before this earth's history shall close. He would not give any living being an excuse for delaying the preparation for His appearing. He would have no one say, as did the unfaithful servant, "My lord delayeth his coming," for this leads to reckless neglect of the opportunities and privileges given to prepare us for that great day.--RH Nov. 27, 1900.{LDE 34.2}
Time-setting Leads to Unbelief
Because the times repeatedly set have passed, the world is in a more decided state of unbelief than before in regard to the near advent of Christ. They look upon the failures of the time-setters with disgust, and because men have been so deceived, they turn from the truth substantiated by the Word of God that the end of all things is at hand.--4T 307 (1879).{LDE 34.3}"
Romans 8v38
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
v39
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Jesus said:
John 16v33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
The truth is you have to settle an account with me where you stated on this forum that I didn't observe the Sabbath. So you better publicly confess on this forum that you were wrong and had no proof with respect to your idle talk. Whatever is stated publicly as an untruth has to be confessed and addressed publicly in order to mend the error.
Earthcaller

Palm Coast, FL

#21 Feb 5, 2011
Doubting Thomas wrote:
<quoted text>
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You are right wensday, the king of the south is dead. The Pope conspired with Ronald Reagan to destroy the USSR.
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Carl Bernstein, of Woodward and Bernstein fame, wrote a book all about it.
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Among the many books written about Pope John Paul II, the book by Carl Bernstein and Marco Politi, His Holiness, stands out.
-----
Islam is represented by the 4 winds that are being restrained by the 4 Angles.
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Satan is no doubt using Islam.
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1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
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2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
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3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
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Doubting Thomas
http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Artic...

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