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Hobie

Cape Coral, FL

#1 Apr 4, 2013
We see that the early church went into apostasy and brought in false doctrines and idoltry and paganism, then the Protestant Reformers came in and partially restored Gods church, but they didnt unite into one true body with all the true doctrines in one church. So how can we know what is the true doctrine from God with so many competing churches and false philosophy and false traditions being taught. How can we find it?
birdman

Mattoon, IL

#2 Apr 4, 2013
Hobie wrote:
We see that the early church went into apostasy and brought in false doctrines and idoltry and paganism, then the Protestant Reformers came in and partially restored Gods church, but they didnt unite into one true body with all the true doctrines in one church. So how can we know what is the true doctrine from God with so many competing churches and false philosophy and false traditions being taught. How can we find it?
ONLY THRU SCRIPTURE with the help of the Holy Spirit and put AWAY our PRECONCEIVED IDEAS and BELIEFS and make sure that what is found DOES NOT CONTRADICT OTHER SCRIPTURE.
DANNO

London, UK

#3 Apr 4, 2013
Hobie wrote:
We see that the early church went into apostasy and brought in false doctrines and idoltry and paganism, then the Protestant Reformers came in and partially restored Gods church, but they didnt unite into one true body with all the true doctrines in one church. So how can we know what is the true doctrine from God with so many competing churches and false philosophy and false traditions being taught. How can we find it?
The TRUTH about your SDA Church is found in link below.

click> http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d...
DANNO

London, UK

#4 Apr 4, 2013
Hobie wrote:
So how can we know what is the true doctrine from God with so many competing churches and false philosophy and false traditions being taught. How can we find it?
By clicking on link below.

click> http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d...
DANNO

London, UK

#5 Apr 4, 2013
Hobie wrote:
So how can we know what is the true doctrine from God with so many competing churches and false philosophy and false traditions being taught. How can we find it?

Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater (YouTube channel: CANSWERSTV, see our playlist of 10 videos on the SDA at

Hobie

Cape Coral, FL

#6 Apr 4, 2013
birdman wrote:
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ONLY THRU SCRIPTURE with the help of the Holy Spirit and put AWAY our PRECONCEIVED IDEAS and BELIEFS and make sure that what is found DOES NOT CONTRADICT OTHER SCRIPTURE.
Very good answer.
Hobie

Cape Coral, FL

#7 Apr 5, 2013
Adventist find in the Bible the following:

1. That God is the Sovereign Creator, upholder, and ruler of the universe, and that He is eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.

2. That the Godhead, the Trinity, comprises God the Father, Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

3. That the Scriptures are the inspired revelation of God to men; and that the Bible is the sole rule of faith and practice.

4. That Jesus Christ is very God, and that He has existed with the Father from all eternity.

5. That the Holy Spirit is a personal being, sharing the attributes of deity with the Father and the Son.

6. That Christ, the Word of God, became incarnate through the miraculous conception and the virgin birth; and that He lived an absolutely sinless life here on earth.

7. That the vicarious, atoning death of Jesus Christ, once for all, is all-sufficient for the redemption of a lost race.

8. That Jesus Christ arose literally and bodily from the grave.

9. That He ascended literally and bodily into heaven.

10. That He now serves as our advocate in priestly ministry and mediation before the Father.

11. That He will return in a premillennial, personal, imminent second advent.

12. That man was created sinless, but by his subsequent fall entered a state of alienation and depravity.

13. That salvation through Christ is by grace alone, through faith in His blood.

14. That entrance upon the new life in Christ is by regeneration, or the new birth.

15. That man is justified by faith.

16. That man is sanctified by the indwelling Christ through the Holy Spirit.

17. That man will be glorified at the resurrection or translation of the saints, when the Lord returns.

18. That there will be a judgment of all men.

19. That the gospel is to be preached as a witness to all the world

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#8 Apr 5, 2013
Hobie wrote:
Adventist find in the Bible the following:
1. That God is the Sovereign Creator, upholder, and ruler of the universe, and that He is eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.
2. That the Godhead, the Trinity, comprises God the Father, Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
3. That the Scriptures are the inspired revelation of God to men; and that the Bible is the sole rule of faith and practice.
4. That Jesus Christ is very God, and that He has existed with the Father from all eternity.
5. That the Holy Spirit is a personal being, sharing the attributes of deity with the Father and the Son.
6. That Christ, the Word of God, became incarnate through the miraculous conception and the virgin birth; and that He lived an absolutely sinless life here on earth.
7. That the vicarious, atoning death of Jesus Christ, once for all, is all-sufficient for the redemption of a lost race.
8. That Jesus Christ arose literally and bodily from the grave.
9. That He ascended literally and bodily into heaven.
10. That He now serves as our advocate in priestly ministry and mediation before the Father.
11. That He will return in a premillennial, personal, imminent second advent.
12. That man was created sinless, but by his subsequent fall entered a state of alienation and depravity.
13. That salvation through Christ is by grace alone, through faith in His blood.
14. That entrance upon the new life in Christ is by regeneration, or the new birth.
15. That man is justified by faith.
16. That man is sanctified by the indwelling Christ through the Holy Spirit.
17. That man will be glorified at the resurrection or translation of the saints, when the Lord returns.
18. That there will be a judgment of all men.
19. That the gospel is to be preached as a witness to all the world
How does that excuse the Seventh-day Adventist hierarchy from endorsing the witchcraft/sorceries/propagand a industry of pharmakia?
http://everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewtopic....

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#9 Apr 5, 2013
Hobie wrote:
Adventist find in the Bible the following:
1. That God is the Sovereign Creator, upholder, and ruler of the universe, and that He is eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.
2. That the Godhead, the Trinity, comprises God the Father, Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
3. That the Scriptures are the inspired revelation of God to men; and that the Bible is the sole rule of faith and practice.
4. That Jesus Christ is very God, and that He has existed with the Father from all eternity.
5. That the Holy Spirit is a personal being, sharing the attributes of deity with the Father and the Son.
6. That Christ, the Word of God, became incarnate through the miraculous conception and the virgin birth; and that He lived an absolutely sinless life here on earth.
7. That the vicarious, atoning death of Jesus Christ, once for all, is all-sufficient for the redemption of a lost race.
8. That Jesus Christ arose literally and bodily from the grave.
9. That He ascended literally and bodily into heaven.
10. That He now serves as our advocate in priestly ministry and mediation before the Father.
11. That He will return in a premillennial, personal, imminent second advent.
12. That man was created sinless, but by his subsequent fall entered a state of alienation and depravity.
13. That salvation through Christ is by grace alone, through faith in His blood.
14. That entrance upon the new life in Christ is by regeneration, or the new birth.
15. That man is justified by faith.
16. That man is sanctified by the indwelling Christ through the Holy Spirit.
17. That man will be glorified at the resurrection or translation of the saints, when the Lord returns.
18. That there will be a judgment of all men.
19. That the gospel is to be preached as a witness to all the world
"The greatest deception of the human mind in Christ's day was that a mere assent to the truth constitutes righteousness." DA 309.2. But your delusions surpass all that. You believe in the righteousness of SDA leadership and seek to demonize anyone who challenges their supremacy in your mind.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#11 Apr 5, 2013
Pope Francis I wrote:
Shubes, you're not going to heaven. I can tell.
What do you disapprove of most? That I quote Ellen White to professing Seventh-day Adventists or because I dare to challenge SDA's presumptuous faith in a murderous SDA hierarchy?
http://everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewtopic....
Hobie

Cape Coral, FL

#13 Apr 6, 2013
Pope Francis I wrote:
<quoted text>
Shubes, you're not going to heaven. I can tell.
As soon as you see Saint Paul, you would start howling and protesting, questioning whether he deserved to be there, after the terrible things he did to the church, even to throwing innocent babes into jail .... forever.
God will NOT accept you there at all! You ought to be preparing your mind for hell-fire.
I think he would give the devil the same treatment....
Robert Two

Kent Town, Australia

#14 Apr 7, 2013
Hobie wrote:
We see that the early church went into apostasy and brought in false doctrines and idoltry and paganism, then the Protestant Reformers came in and partially restored Gods church, but they didnt unite into one true body with all the true doctrines in one church. So how can we know what is the true doctrine from God with so many competing churches and false philosophy and false traditions being taught. How can we find it?
If we loved our neighbour right.
We then would receive more TRUTH.
As sharing is how GOD works.
We see as humans see..Glass darkly.!
We see like the world.
The world CANNOT receive the spirit of TRUTH"
Few can NEGOTIATE today as they think they know nest !
All the prophets GOD gave us to work.
Many do not see the HOLY SPIRIT sending ordinary people to them.
Why was KING DAVID a man after GOD's own heart.
Simple he listened for people to bring GOD to him.
He loved people.
We are to be of THE SAME MIND & THE SAME JUDGEMENT.
Robert Two

Kent Town, Australia

#15 Apr 7, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>"The greatest deception of the human mind in Christ's day was that a mere assent to the truth constitutes righteousness." DA 309.2. But your delusions surpass all that. You believe in the righteousness of SDA leadership and seek to demonize anyone who challenges their supremacy in your mind.
Some TRUTH in the above.
Isaiah 9:16 covers that.
We follow GOD alone.
Hobie

Cape Coral, FL

#16 Apr 8, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>What do you disapprove of most? That I quote Ellen White to professing Seventh-day Adventists or because I dare to challenge SDA's presumptuous faith in a murderous SDA hierarchy?
http://everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewtopic....
What in the world are you talking the 'SDA hierarchy', have you lost your mind?
birdman

Mattoon, IL

#17 Apr 8, 2013
1. That God is the Sovereign Creator, upholder, and ruler of the universe, and that He is eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.

2. That the Scriptures are the inspired revelation of God to men; and that the Bible is the sole rule of faith and practice.

3. That Jesus Christ is very God

4. That the Holy Spirit is the Word of God

5. That Christ, the Word of God, became incarnate through the miraculous conception and the virgin birth; and that He lived an absolutely sinless life here on earth.

6. That the vicarious, atoning death of Jesus Christ, once for all, is all-sufficient for the redemption of a lost race.

7. That Jesus Christ arose literally and bodily from the grave.

8. That He ascended literally and bodily into heaven.

9. That He now serves as our advocate in priestly ministry and mediation before the Father.

10. That He will return in a premillennial, personal, imminent second advent.

11. That man was created sinless, but by his subsequent fall entered a state of alienation and depravity.

12. That salvation through Christ is by grace alone, through faith in His blood.

13. That entrance upon the new life in Christ is by regeneration, or the new birth.

14. That man is justified by faith
.
15. That man is sanctified by the indwelling Christ through the Holy Spirit.

16. That man will be glorified at the resurrection or translation of the saints, when the Lord returns.

17. That there will be a decision made by all men.

18. That the gospel is to be preached as a witness to all the world

19. Christ; Who is our High Priest serves in the Most Holy Place of Heaven since His Accension.
Robert Two

Cumberland Park, Australia

#18 Apr 8, 2013
Hobie wrote:
<quoted text>
What in the world are you talking the 'SDA hierarchy', have you lost your mind?
GOD never wanted the SDA church run the way it is run. Yes it has KINGLY POWER.
Read your BIBLE. Howdid GOD train MOSES to run Israel?
The look at GOD telling KING DAVID how to run Israel.
Also SAMUEL was told by GOD.
The SDA people in the LOCAL CHURCHES were to run the organization.
Conferences were to do as requested by the COMMON PEOPLE.
Run from the TOP is BABYLON.
LOVE w3orks from the bottom upwards & ever UPWARDS.

How do you think Abraham's servat selected REBEKAH ?
She run her life in the manner GOD wants US to run GOD's church.

REBEKAH was so rare the servant was told if you cannot find her COME BACK EMPTY HANDED. I am only trying to help you HODIE.
"The world CANNOT receive the spirit of TRUTH"
Robert Two

Cumberland Park, Australia

#19 Apr 8, 2013
birdman wrote:
1. That God is the Sovereign Creator, upholder, and ruler of the universe, and that He is eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.
2. That the Scriptures are the inspired revelation of God to men; and that the Bible is the sole rule of faith and practice.
3. That Jesus Christ is very God
4. That the Holy Spirit is the Word of God
5. That Christ, the Word of God, became incarnate through the miraculous conception and the virgin birth; and that He lived an absolutely sinless life here on earth.
6. That the vicarious, atoning death of Jesus Christ, once for all, is all-sufficient for the redemption of a lost race.
7. That Jesus Christ arose literally and bodily from the grave.
8. That He ascended literally and bodily into heaven.
9. That He now serves as our advocate in priestly ministry and mediation before the Father.
10. That He will return in a premillennial, personal, imminent second advent.
11. That man was created sinless, but by his subsequent fall entered a state of alienation and depravity.
12. That salvation through Christ is by grace alone, through faith in His blood.
13. That entrance upon the new life in Christ is by regeneration, or the new birth.
14. That man is justified by faith
.
15. That man is sanctified by the indwelling Christ through the Holy Spirit.
16. That man will be glorified at the resurrection or translation of the saints, when the Lord returns.
17. That there will be a decision made by all men.
18. That the gospel is to be preached as a witness to all the world
19. Christ; Who is our High Priest serves in the Most Holy Place of Heaven since His Accension.
Just needs a little modification but in the main OKAY.
Hobie

Cape Coral, FL

#20 Apr 10, 2013
Robert Two wrote:
<quoted text> GOD never wanted the SDA church run the way it is run. Yes it has KINGLY POWER.
Read your BIBLE. Howdid GOD train MOSES to run Israel?
The look at GOD telling KING DAVID how to run Israel.
Also SAMUEL was told by GOD.
The SDA people in the LOCAL CHURCHES were to run the organization.
Conferences were to do as requested by the COMMON PEOPLE.
Run from the TOP is BABYLON.
LOVE w3orks from the bottom upwards & ever UPWARDS.
How do you think Abraham's servat selected REBEKAH ?
She run her life in the manner GOD wants US to run GOD's church.
REBEKAH was so rare the servant was told if you cannot find her COME BACK EMPTY HANDED. I am only trying to help you HODIE.
"The world CANNOT receive the spirit of TRUTH"
Hey, no one is perfect, but Ellen White does not say to leave the church because its not run well, or the pastors aren't perfect, or some members still fall into sin, so don't know where you can go with that.
Robert Two

Darwin, Australia

#21 Apr 11, 2013
Hobie wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, no one is perfect, but Ellen White does not say to leave the church because its not run well, or the pastors aren't perfect, or some members still fall into sin, so don't know where you can go with that.
EGW often refused to attend CAMNP MEETING because of what was preached.
Then read THE UPARD LOOK page 315.
See here where she advised to leave the DENOMINATION to worship GOD properly.
The SDA church use many quotes but fail to understand what EGW is saying
A good one.
THE CHURCH IS NOT BABYLON>
Note the world CHURCH.
Look in the above quote.
the SDA is a DEMONINATION as there is only ONE CHURCH.
All churchs are of MAN.
The TRUTH is of GOD and ONE CHURCH is the REMNANT CHURCH.

There are no KNOWN TARES in the REMNANT.
EGW says it is up to us to keep the CHURCH PURE.

I can explain all the question from EGW and the BIBLE.
I was with the SDAs in 1939 I learned many things.

Though EGW made a few ERRORS I will stand by her when GOD told her.
Hobie

Cape Coral, FL

#23 Apr 13, 2013
birdman wrote:
1. That God is the Sovereign Creator, upholder, and ruler of the universe, and that He is eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.
2. That the Scriptures are the inspired revelation of God to men; and that the Bible is the sole rule of faith and practice.
3. That Jesus Christ is very God
4. That the Holy Spirit is the Word of God
5. That Christ, the Word of God, became incarnate through the miraculous conception and the virgin birth; and that He lived an absolutely sinless life here on earth.
6. That the vicarious, atoning death of Jesus Christ, once for all, is all-sufficient for the redemption of a lost race.
7. That Jesus Christ arose literally and bodily from the grave.
8. That He ascended literally and bodily into heaven.
9. That He now serves as our advocate in priestly ministry and mediation before the Father.
10. That He will return in a premillennial, personal, imminent second advent.
11. That man was created sinless, but by his subsequent fall entered a state of alienation and depravity.
12. That salvation through Christ is by grace alone, through faith in His blood.
13. That entrance upon the new life in Christ is by regeneration, or the new birth.
14. That man is justified by faith
.
15. That man is sanctified by the indwelling Christ through the Holy Spirit.
16. That man will be glorified at the resurrection or translation of the saints, when the Lord returns.
17. That there will be a decision made by all men.
18. That the gospel is to be preached as a witness to all the world
19. Christ; Who is our High Priest serves in the Most Holy Place of Heaven since His Accension.
Nice, I like it.

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