• The NWO EARTH BEAST

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#81 Jun 15, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
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Another dawdler with a routine argument; as its with Marcos: Marcos and Mack Truck both chatter, yet deny there even exists theological issues that rent Adventism causing the confusion they are so troubled
If there is one thing people have in common in this forum is that they all recognize you as an idiot with no purpose or direction.

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#82 Jun 15, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> There is a difference between Lysi and EGW. EGW was given time to repent and refused to do so. Her teachings have lead many would be bond servants for Jesus astray.
Lysi's words have not led anyone astray, have they? Shoot he was the one led astray by EGW. He is the victim, not EGW.
We would't say 'boo' to Lysi if we didn't care for him. Just as I would scream "Watch Out" for someone in a street with a car coming at them, I do the same for those poor fools who have been tricked and deceived by both, EGW and Paul's words.
Rocky, I need to ask you something. You claim to be an SDA but you deny EGW? How can that be possible? Adventism does exist because of her doctrines, therefore, if you deny her inspiration you are denying the foundations of your religious believes. Can you see the conflict? Please can explain why are you still claiming to be an Adventist?

Thanks Rocky

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#83 Jun 15, 2012
The Real Mack wrote:
<quoted text>No problem Lysi. There is nothing wrong with Adventism, there is no confusion at all and all of you SDA guys are together all in one common thought. What you see in these forum is just a bunch of weirdos that are a product of our imagination. In fact, everything I have told you here are just lies because if I am not an SDA therefore I must be a lost and confused pagan liar.

Come on lysi, you are the son of a retired pastor. How could you be wrong? On the other side if I tell you that I am also the son of a retired pastor then I must be a lying. Any experience that I lived and went through in the SDA church is a lie cause I am just a weirdo.

Why should I waste my time here interacting with perfect people? It doesn't matter what I say you guys are right and I am wrong. Perhaps because you people live in a bubble of denial were nothing can touch or affect you.
Not sure why you are saying this as it doesn't even jibe with my point. All I'm trying to show you is how this ant-Pauline idea must be relatively new in Asventism.

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#84 Jun 15, 2012
The Real Mack wrote:
<quoted text>If there is one thing people have in common in this forum is that they all recognize you as an idiot with no purpose or direction.
I'm sad to confess, I must agree with you Real Mack. Lol

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#85 Jun 15, 2012
Lysimachus wrote:
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Not sure why you are saying this as it doesn't even jibe with my point. All I'm trying to show you is how this ant-Pauline idea must be relatively new in Asventism.
Yes the anti-Pualine fenomenum it is a new trend. What I am trying to say is that for some reason some SDA's have issues understanding Paul and that is why some of them either avoid him or reject him. Hey I am telling you honestly, I personally now 2 SDA pastors that reject Paul and both are now retired.

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#86 Jun 15, 2012
birdman wrote:
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I have been attending the Church over 25 years and Have never heard what you stated.
Maybe what you heard was from those rebelling against God and His Word.
I have never found any contradiction with Paul and the rest of the Bible.
It must be yours and others mis-interpretations that are wrong.
For somebody who's been attending to church for so long you have no doctrinal knowledge at all. The only thing you know how to say is "Liar". In fact, you rejected EGW many times in this forum. That tells me something...

There are only two true SDA's left in these forums and they are Lysimachus and Rey33. They are the only capable ones with intellectual capacity to defend their own doctrines. The rest of the SDA's here cannot even defend their doctrinal ground either because they're just wanderers, confused, ignorant fools, or claim to be SDA's just because it gives them some identity and sense of belonging.
Stuff

Bolton, Canada

#87 Jun 15, 2012
The Real Mack wrote:
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For somebody who's been attending to church for so long you have no doctrinal knowledge at all. The only thing you know how to say is "Liar". In fact, you rejected EGW many times in this forum. That tells me something...
There are only two true SDA's left in these forums and they are Lysimachus and Rey33. They are the only capable ones with intellectual capacity to defend their own doctrines. The rest of the SDA's here cannot even defend their doctrinal ground either because they're just wanderers, confused, ignorant fools, or claim to be SDA's just because it gives them some identity and sense of belonging.
CONCLUSION

You claim to be demonic only because it gives you some sense of belonging and identity while you wait here for the day you will meet your cruel master in the fires of hell. That's a poor excuse for not wanting to be righteous.
birdman

Arthur, IL

#88 Jun 15, 2012
The Real Mack wrote:
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For somebody who's been attending to church for so long you have no doctrinal knowledge at all. The only thing you know how to say is "Liar". In fact, you rejected EGW many times in this forum. That tells me something...
There are only two true SDA's left in these forums and they are Lysimachus and Rey33. They are the only capable ones with intellectual capacity to defend their own doctrines. The rest of the SDA's here cannot even defend their doctrinal ground either because they're just wanderers, confused, ignorant fools, or claim to be SDA's just because it gives them some identity and sense of belonging.
LIAR is my response to you who rejects most all truth.

what you wrote was false and that makes it a lie.
birdman

Arthur, IL

#89 Jun 15, 2012
The Real Mack wrote:
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For somebody who's been attending to church for so long you have no doctrinal knowledge at all. The only thing you know how to say is "Liar". In fact, you rejected EGW many times in this forum. That tells me something...
There are only two true SDA's left in these forums and they are Lysimachus and Rey33. They are the only capable ones with intellectual capacity to defend their own doctrines. The rest of the SDA's here cannot even defend their doctrinal ground either because they're just wanderers, confused, ignorant fools, or claim to be SDA's just because it gives them some identity and sense of belonging.
I most likely forgot more than you have ever known.
birdman

Arthur, IL

#90 Jun 15, 2012
The Real Mack wrote:
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If there is one thing people have in common in this forum is that they all recognize you as an idiot with no purpose or direction.
Is this the POT calling the KETTLE BLACK?

I have had many disagreements with LW, but HE HAS MOST LIKELY FORGOT MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW.

But I will let him respond to your ignorance.
birdman

Arthur, IL

#91 Jun 15, 2012
Lysimachus wrote:
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But true orthodox Adventism doesn't hold this. Doug Batchelor? Steve Wohlberg? Walter Veith? David Asscherick? Stephan Bohr? I'm not saying I agree with these men in everything, but they are the closest to representing true, Biblical, fundamental Adventism as far as our doctrines are concerned.
I've been raised Adventism all my life, and never once had I even heard of the anti-Pauline crowd, much less within Adventism, until I came here in this forum less than a year ago!!!
And my dad is a retired pastor, and not even HE had heard of such a thing!!
I've been to ASI, GYC, and numerous Adventist campmeetings, and had never even so much as heard of a single anti-Pauline individual up until a several months ago at the age of 33. And I've been ALL OVER the US. And I know hundreds and hundreds of Adventists. Yikes, I even know Stephen Bohr (my dad went to school with him), Steve Wohlberg, and Doug Bachelor PERSONALLY. I've been to Adventist churches ALL over the US, and even to the last 2010 GC session in Atlanta.
Never had even once heard any anti-Pauline notions.
You guys must be meeting up with some real weirdos, some strange places that no body knows about.
You guys do realize that these anti-Pauline sentiments are all over the web among non-SDA organizations too, right? It's not just SDA, but these ideas have no doubt influenced some Adventists. So this garbage does not originate in Adventism.
Ellen White commented on how so inspired Paul was, and what a man of God he was in SOOOO many writings, even in her book "Sketches on the Life of Paul", that you'd think some of these pastors you mentioned must have been drunk or on some sort of Quaaludes to pit EGW against Paul.
Don't let these nuts influence you. Their problems are not a reason to leave Adventism. True Biblical Adventism stands or falls on its own merits, despite some nutcases claiming to be Adventists (but are really not) who misrepresent it.
I don't give a flying fig for how much DANNO and Rockroller may claim to be Adventists.
They can make that ludicrous claim all they want, but it won't make them be.
They are no different than Catholics or Zionists in God's eyes.
I to have NEVER heard of this LIE that Mack says about PAUL.

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#92 Jun 15, 2012
birdman wrote:
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Is this the POT calling the KETTLE BLACK?
I have had many disagreements with LW, but HE HAS MOST LIKELY FORGOT MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW.
But I will let him respond to your ignorance.
Sucker
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#93 Jun 15, 2012
The Real Mack wrote:
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If there is one thing people have in common in this forum is that they all recognize you as an idiot with no purpose or direction.
Had the MACK TRUCK a thorough appreciation of the Scriptures -
the Everlasting Gospel [nothing];
elevation of Jesus as Great High Priest [ denies];
the doctrine of the AC [affirmed by Mack Truck];
dutyful acceptance as does Marcos of the Triune TRinity the central doctrine of the LITTLE HORN [bowed unto];
cant find the Scriptures for 538AD [as does Marcos];
denial of the Dual Atonement [As does Marcos];
secrete admirer of the IJ

the readers can see who is Biblically illiterate with nothing to share other than an evangelical agenda which has no purpose or direction for the last generation
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#94 Jun 15, 2012
Lysimachus wrote:
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I'm sad to confess, I must agree with you Real Mack. Lol
Marcos has confirmed for the readers some uite unusual things

viz., the "Man in Linen" noted specifically [Dan 12] is a demon

Interesting isn't
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#96 Jun 15, 2012
The Real Mack wrote:
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Rocky, I need to ask you something. You claim to be an SDA but you deny EGW? How can that be possible? Adventism does exist because of her doctrines, therefore, if you deny her inspiration you are denying the foundations of your religious believes. Can you see the conflict? Please can explain why are you still claiming to be an Adventist?
Thanks Rocky
IT's very simple my friend, Adventism was alive and well and doing fine WAY before Ellen White stepped in and caused problems. The first true Adventists were people of high moral standards each studying the bible themselves searching for real truth. They advanced as a group, while believing that 1844 was the day for Jesus to come, they did not understand that the time was right but the event was wrong. The event was when Dan. 2's STONE (the New KOH) was set up.

While each were searching the bible for evidence, along came EGW who stopped most of them from doing their own search from the bible because she simply said "Thus sayth the Lord" ending for the most part, individual bible study.

This is why Rev. 2:18-20 has this KOH (Adventists) have this groups deeds being greater than at first (Medical work, ect.) and then the warning about EGW. In the next warning for Sardis, we see that God sees these same deeds and that this group has a NAME (Adventists) that mean they are alive and waiting for Jesus to come, but they are now actually spiritualy dead (sleeping) because of the words of EGW put them to sleep. Then in Rev. 3:4 we see just a small group (few) who don't 'buy' what EGW wrote and they are the ones who become the 144k.

Therefore, when you say that I am not a true Adventist you do not fully understand where and who the founders were of Adventism--they were doing a great job of studying the bible. But then EGW came along and disrupted the study of the real true Adventists. Then later, in 1888 along came Waggoner, Jones and group and completely destroyed true Adventism by getting EGW to agree with the words of Paul over and above the words of Jesus. Yes, Satan is a true MASTER at deception and knows that Adventists are right now the Kingdom of Heaven who are spiritually sleeping. He has done a wonderful job in destroying how they at first were diligently studying the words of Jesus to find truth.

The future is going to be real interesting because in the next 1335 days (real days) the truth about both EGW and Paul are going to come to the forefront which will cause a real disruption (the shaking probably) ending with the shout at midnight when Jesus comes like a thief (not the same event as the coming in the clouds) in order to seal the 144k and the 5 wise who give up the words of Paul and EGW and accept the real truth of the words of Jesus ONLY. That is the real gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus said would be preached around the world before Jesus comes in the clouds.
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#97 Jun 15, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> IT's very simple my friend, Adventism was alive and well and doing fine WAY before Ellen White stepped in and caused problems. The first true Adventists were people of high moral standards each studying the bible themselves searching for real truth. They advanced as a group, while believing that 1844 was the day for Jesus to come, they did not understand that the time was right but the event was wrong. The event was when Dan. 2's STONE (the New KOH) was set up.
While each were searching the bible for evidence, along came EGW who stopped most of them from doing their own search from the bible because she simply said "Thus sayth the Lord" ending for the most part, individual bible study.
This is why Rev. 2:18-20 has this KOH (Adventists) have this groups deeds being greater than at first (Medical work, ect.) and then the warning about EGW. In the next warning for Sardis, we see that God sees these same deeds and that this group has a NAME (Adventists) that mean they are alive and waiting for Jesus to come, but they are now actually spiritualy dead (sleeping) because of the words of EGW put them to sleep. Then in Rev. 3:4 we see just a small group (few) who don't 'buy' what EGW wrote and they are the ones who become the 144k.
Therefore, when you say that I am not a true Adventist you do not fully understand where and who the founders were of Adventism--they were doing a great job of studying the bible. But then EGW came along and disrupted the study of the real true Adventists. Then later, in 1888 along came Waggoner, Jones and group and completely destroyed true Adventism by getting EGW to agree with the words of Paul over and above the words of Jesus. Yes, Satan is a true MASTER at deception and knows that Adventists are right now the Kingdom of Heaven who are spiritually sleeping. He has done a wonderful job in destroying how they at first were diligently studying the words of Jesus to find truth.
The future is going to be real interesting because in the next 1335 days (real days) the truth about both EGW and Paul are going to come to the forefront which will cause a real disruption (the shaking probably) ending with the shout at midnight when Jesus comes like a thief (not the same event as the coming in the clouds) in order to seal the 144k and the 5 wise who give up the words of Paul and EGW and accept the real truth of the words of Jesus ONLY. That is the real gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus said would be preached around the world before Jesus comes in the clouds.
Lacking verifiable evidence from the 1888 period

Try again
new voice

Canton, OH

#98 Jun 15, 2012
Why the controversy with Paul, Luke and James? How do you pick and chose what parts of the Bible are inspired and what are not? Would appreciate an absence of sarcasm as I have never commented on your forums before but am reading with interest.
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#99 Jun 15, 2012
new voice wrote:
Why the controversy with Paul, Luke and James? How do you pick and chose what parts of the Bible are inspired and what are not? Would appreciate an absence of sarcasm as I have never commented on your forums before but am reading with interest.
Does the Bible say James agreed with Paul?
Why would James change the Pauline message to include works?
Why would the LITTLE HORN prefer to use James for their Tridentine Gospel?
new voice

Canton, OH

#100 Jun 15, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
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Does the Bible say James agreed with Paul?
Why would James change the Pauline message to include works?
Why would the LITTLE HORN prefer to use James for their Tridentine Gospel?
You make reference to things I know nothing about so I am no further helped by your comment. Guess I shouldn't have asked.

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#102 Jun 15, 2012
Stuff wrote:
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CONCLUSION
You claim to be demonic only because it gives you some sense of belonging and identity while you wait here for the day you will meet your cruel master in the fires of hell. That's a poor excuse for not wanting to be righteous.
You are a righteous piece of Shit.

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