Law and Grace Cannot Coexist

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#5569 Jul 21, 2012
>djconklin wrote:

Finally! The old dog managed to learn how to spell!

>The Conk presents truth here....I agree

And just as quickly, the shodpuke falls off the wagon.

Since: Aug 10

Pacific Northwest USA

#5570 Jul 21, 2012
djconklin wrote:
>djconklin wrote:
Finally! The old dog managed to learn how to spell!
>The Conk presents truth here....I agree
And just as quickly, the shodpuke falls off the wagon.
Lovely comments, spoken like a real grown-up. Might want to hang on to those coloring books, yourself!
sitkahappy

Sitka, AK

#5571 Jul 21, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
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Sit....try again, have no idea what you are stating
be clear
I know you can't understand clear scipture. And yes I will keep trying.
sitkahappy

Sitka, AK

#5572 Jul 21, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
God CLEARLY states;
With a New High Priest, there is a change of law
Heb 7:12
PEOPLE RECEIVED THE LAW which includes the Ten C's
Deut 30:10 1 King 2:3 through the priesthood
Listen to God here;
11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
The Hebrew writer supports Paul's explanation of Gal 4;21-31
Christ changed the Law, there is a NEW Covenant
The New Testament is our witness.
The nutcases in this forum can chase one around the forum yelling out their belief to keep the Old law of Death,the Ten C's, yet , they can not provide it being commanded in the NT.
Thus their label as a nutcase...
Now watch them come, they are the mentally unstable, without lodgic
teaching things without scriptual support, but man made concoctions.
They will take one word and make it say what they want it to say....
these are your unstable werido's
Is evil fruit showing?

Let me see...there is a change of law, but there is now no law?

While the ten commandments are included in the law they are not what Paul was talking about.

sitkahappy

Sitka, AK

#5573 Jul 21, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
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djconklin wrote:
>the Christ follower is NOT under that Covenant of bondage
Matthew 11:29-30 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Shad stated;
The Conk presents truth here....I agree
His New Covenant is without the hardships of the Old Covenant
in man trying to be perfect without a Savior
For Christ states the above....He ended that Old Law of Bondage
Gal 4:21-31 Rom 10:4
and No one No one, will find the Old Covenant Laws of condemnation being commanded in His New Covenant
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Then..
Wrong........you simply tried to cover up the above truth, with your malarkey.......
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In trying again;
You nor anyone will find God condemning a Christian in the New Covenant, such as it is, under the Old Covenant with its Ten C's.......
You misunderstand the scripture.

The Christian is under bondage, we are the servants of Jesus.

No one in the OT was trying to earn their own salvation without a savior. The lamb slain from the foundations of the world was Jesus.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#5574 Jul 21, 2012
GrammyJoanne wrote:
<quoted text>Lovely comments, spoken like a real grown-up. Might want to hang on to those coloring books, yourself!
Well, you ain't trainin' the old dog.
sitkahappy

Sitka, AK

#5575 Jul 21, 2012
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>Well, you ain't trainin' the old dog.

The old dogs that can't be retrained, are not changed.

'A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.' Ezekiel 36:26
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#5577 Jul 22, 2012
DANNO wrote:
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WELL SAID!!
They to relied on the blood of animals to cleanse them from their sins once every YEAR! They did NOT believe that the LAW would EARN them salvation!
The gospel WEEDS of PAUL has messed up BILLIONS of christians brains!
Jesus did WARN us of this in Matt 13: 24-26 & in REV 2: 2 & in Matt 24: 4-24
Dan
Unconvincing
sitkahappy

Sitka, AK

#5579 Jul 28, 2012
The Faceless Man wrote:
<quoted text>
weird... you don't make sense at all
May the Lord grant you spiritual eyes.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#5580 Jul 30, 2012
The Faceless Man wrote:
<quoted text>Vultures are flying above your head
Orcs and Uruk-hai fighting?
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#5581 Jul 30, 2012
sitkahappy wrote:
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You misunderstand the scripture.
The Christian is under bondage, we are the servants of Jesus.
No one in the OT was trying to earn their own salvation without a savior. The lamb slain from the foundations of the world was Jesus.
Here is the agreement to their Contract Ex 19:7-8

Here is it being ratified Ex 24:1-8

Here is what happens if they breach their contract Deut 28

Here is what God promises if they keep their part of the deal, there part in the contract
Deut 28:15

We have scripture to support our teaching

You have none
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#5582 Jul 30, 2012
Excuse me Deut 28:1-15 is Gods Blessing for their keeping the contract

Deut 28:15 is what God will do if they do not keep their contract

haste makes waste......sorry
Shadrach

Santa Clara, CA

#5583 Jul 30, 2012
Sitka, this Contract......the Old Covenant given at Mt Sinai, Deut 4;13 the Ministry of Death was a contract between God and man, in which God let man try and achieve perfection on his own.Gal 4:24

as we all know, man failed.......not one person was able to keep Gods Law perfectly in order that he may enter His Kingdom

NOT ONE PERSON

the only perfect person in God's eyes, who could keep that Mt Sinai Covenant was Jesus

God revealed to all, that we need Him, His Love, His grace, to meet His standard for man.

By His grace, He gives us the gift of life

a RIGHTEOUSNESS APART FROM THE LAW

LOVE Jn 3:16

and NOT BY ANYTHING WE CAN DO
DANNO

London, UK

#5584 Jul 30, 2012
Shadrach wrote:
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Here is the agreement to their Contract Ex 19:7-8
Here is it being ratified Ex 24:1-8
Here is what happens if they breach their contract Deut 28
Here is what God promises if they keep their part of the deal, there part in the contract
Deut 28:15
We have scripture to support our teaching
You have none
Do you like ROM 2: 13 & ROM 7: 12 & REV 14: 12 & 1st John 2: 7 yes or no?

Dan

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#5586 Aug 11, 2012
[QUOTE}
sitkahappy wrote:
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Yes, salavtion is a gift.'But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.' Romans 5:15
And so is righteousness!'For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.' Romans 5:17
Before it can be yours the offered gift needs to be accepted. You want the first - grace, but reject the second - righteousness. The second is his works revealed in you - by their fruit you will know them.
Have you looked at your fruit laterly? Can you honestly say that the spirit of Jesus working in you, that what you say comes from the Holy Spirit of Jesus inside you?
'Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.' Romans 6:17,22
Do you think what you and your friends do; the insulting, the mocking, the making fun of others is the work of the Holy Spirit?
Can a good tree bring forth bad fruit?

weird... you don't make sense at all [/QUOTE]The Bible never makes sense to those who seek error.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#5587 Aug 11, 2012
> in which God let man try and achieve perfection on his own

Nope; it has always been by faith. The sacrificial service alone proves that your claim is false.
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#5588 Aug 11, 2012
Which means there is no IJ of the saints -- based solely on the sacrificial service .

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#5589 Aug 11, 2012
No proof.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#5590 Aug 28, 2012
Lay Worker wrote:
Which means there is no IJ of the saints -- based solely on the sacrificial service .
The who is getting investigated?

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#5591 Aug 28, 2012
DANNO wrote:
<quoted text>Do you like ROM 2: 13 & ROM 7: 12 & REV 14: 12 & 1st John 2: 7 yes or no?

Dan
You still asking questions?

Every post I go there you are asking questions...

And running from the answers!!!

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