Why don't SDA's keep the Feast Days o...

Why don't SDA's keep the Feast Days of the Torah?

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SamBee

Tuscaloosa, AL

#1 Jan 12, 2011
Shalom,

Could an SDA answer this question please.
Thanks.
STEENBERG

United States

#2 Jan 12, 2011
Mrs White and our leaders in Washington will NEVER allow us to do that. Even if it is clear that we will keep The Feast of Tabernacles in the Earthly Millennium.
SamBee

Tuscaloosa, AL

#3 Jan 12, 2011
STEENBERG wrote:
Mrs White and our leaders in Washington will NEVER allow us to do that. Even if it is clear that we will keep The Feast of Tabernacles in the Earthly Millennium.
Shalom,

Thanks for your truthfulness Steenberg.
martinezjosei

United States

#4 Jan 12, 2011
Actually Samuel Bacchiocchi, PhD. a Seventh Day Adventist leader did an unbiased research and discovered that we SHOULD be keeping the seven Holy feast established for ever and ever like: Tabernacle, Passover (once a year not four times a year), Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, etc.

When he published his results many Adventist pastors instead of accepting his unbiased, professional, scholar research they "discommunicated" Bacchiocchi.

Those same pastors hailed Bacchiocchi after he published the book "From Sabbath to Sunday" as a HERO but when he published the one on the holy feast they hated him greatly!!! See, Adventist leaders, pastors and member are NOT after the truth, they are after the writting of the stone hurt, epileptic seizured woman (the Jezebel, who call herself a prophet) who suffered of temporal lope epilepsy as reported by Dr. Kellog who knew her and study her IN PERSON!!!

The Church of God, Living God, worldwide, etc KEEPS those Holy Feast

also the true church, the Jewish Messianics do keep those Holy Feast as required and expected by God. The same days that JESUS HIMSELF KEPT and have NOTHING to do with the abolished ceremonial laws of burnt and offerings.

"And it shall be from new moon to new moon And from sabbath to sabbath, All mankind will come to bow down before Me," says the LORD, Isaiah 66:23

SDA wants you to ignore the "new moon to new moon" part.

Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went .... and to keep the feast of tabernacles; Zechariah 14:16

SDA wants you to believe that they will keep the feast of tabernacle "SPIRITUALLY" like they keep the Sabbath spiritually.

Well, they do obey the Sabbath LITERALLY but that is an exception cause to be INCONSISTENT is ok when the bible contradicts Ellen White.

"As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable (INCONSISTENT) wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:16
Rockroller

AOL

#5 Jan 12, 2011
SamBee wrote:
Shalom,
Could an SDA answer this question please.
Thanks.
Sure thing SamBee, as this is very easy to answer. Israel, as with the 'law' today, had many different types such as regulations, codes, rules, statues, treaties, and contracts. The Ten Commandments were called the Covenant between God and His people much like a marriage contract. This is still in operation and God can't be your God unless you agree to keep all of the conditions found in the Ten Commandments. He will not shack up!

However, as with all of the health and safty codes given by Moses from God to Israel, these were regulations that died when the juridiction of Israel/Jews died. When there is no longer a nation of Israel as what happend when they were sacked by Rome, then there were no longer any regulations to keep such as the Feast Days and/or the health codes and sacrificial regulations.

As for proof that the KOH was taken away from Israel/Jews, look at Matthew 21:43.

Now, wasn't that easy?
BJ Simpson

Lebanon, OR

#6 Jan 12, 2011
SamBee wrote:
Why don't SDA's keep the Feast Days of the Torah?
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That is a really easy one!

Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law. Galations 3

It is because they are cursed that they do not do everything written in the book of the law!

I love it!
Rockroller

AOL

#7 Jan 12, 2011
BJ Simpson wrote:
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That is a really easy one!
Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law. Galations 3
It is because they are cursed that they do not do everything written in the book of the law!
I love it!
You will notice that it was Paul who did the cursing as he also cursed the angel Jesus sent to John to write the book of Revelation. Paul can curse me all he wants--it makes no difference to me since his god was Satan.

BJ, your whole belief is built upon the faith of Paul's writings. You probably do love your mistaken belief because Paul made it easy to become saved. That is called 'grace'. I wish you well.
BJ Simpson

Lebanon, OR

#8 Jan 13, 2011
Rockroller wrote:
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You will notice that it was Paul who did the cursing as he also cursed the angel Jesus sent to John to write the book of Revelation. Paul can curse me all he wants--it makes no difference to me since his god was Satan.
BJ, your whole belief is built upon the faith of Paul's writings. You probably do love your mistaken belief because Paul made it easy to become saved. That is called 'grace'. I wish you well.
I see. You believe you must work for your grace, don't you?

SDA's always sneer "cheap grace" when talking of Protestants.

You are free to join them. And they are going to hell. I bet you will be among them, for I have seen you blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

Too bad, so sad.
hector

Murrieta, CA

#9 Feb 6, 2011
i'll answer that. It's not one of the 10 commandments. listen, when the rich young ruler came to jesus and said " teacher what must i do to be saved? jesus went on to list some of the commandments did he not? the ruler answered and said, all these i have kept from my youth. Jesus came back and said, you lack one thing follow me and you will have treasure in heaven. But the ruler went away sad. What jesus said [SIC]: this man is going to hell, because just obedience to the law will save him. Adventist believe in salvation by grace alone, but obedience to the law is the result of salvation and trusting in Jesus, old ways are cast away. If some one keeps sinning after receiving christ as savior we can see there is no change in the person. The 10 commandments are the fundamental beliefs and obedience to them are the result of a changed heart. Jesus saves.
hector

Murrieta, CA

#10 Feb 6, 2011
it can come down to this; Jesus said the first shall be last and the last shall be first. When someone, dying on their deathbed, at the last minute of their life accept christ as savior and lord, from, mind you, an SDA evangelist, it will make no difference if that person never stepped in a SDA church on the Sabbath or even know who Ellen White was. He was last and now he is first. This is the amazing grace of God.
A Voice In The Wilderness

Vineland, NJ

#11 Feb 6, 2011
Question #1: How can you rehearse something to come when it has already happened?

Question #2: All feasts/ceremonies centered on the physical earthly sanctuary in Jerusalem. How can you keep those ceremonies without said sanctuary?
Gabriella

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Feb 7, 2011
A Voice In The Wilderness wrote:
Question #1: How can you rehearse something to come when it has already happened?
Question #2: All feasts/ceremonies centered on the physical earthly sanctuary in Jerusalem. How can you keep those ceremonies without said sanctuary?
Hi!

What about the actual sacrifices as well? As I understand it, the feasts included sacrifices, so without the animal sacrifices wouldn't that make the feasts incomplete?
A Voice In The Wilderness

Vineland, NJ

#13 Feb 7, 2011
Gabriella wrote:
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Hi!
What about the actual sacrifices as well? As I understand it, the feasts included sacrifices, so without the animal sacrifices wouldn't that make the feasts incomplete?
Yes indeed, friend.

As for the issue of the New Moon in Isaiah 66:23, "And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD."

The New Moon spoken of here has nothing to do with feast days. It refers to the 30-day monthly cycle in the Hebrew calendar. Why will we come before God every 30 days apart from the Sabbath? This is explained in Revelation 22:1,2 "And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit EVERY MONTH: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."

Even after sin is destroyed our immortality will be dependent on us eating of the tree of life, from which we will partake of every New Moon.

Amen.

Since: Jan 11

Jackson, TN

#14 Feb 7, 2011
The feast days as well as the rest of the ceremonial laws were "only a shadow" pointing to the Messiah. Jesus "the substance" fulfilled this prophecy. Gal. 3:19 "Where then serveth the law? It was added BECAUSE of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made;..."
God's law his moral law, is a transcript of his character which changes not. It existed before sin. The additional laws were added because of sin until Christ the seed fulfilled all.

Friend, Christians are no longers under any obligation to observe feast days.

The website amazingfacts.org can be ofgreat help to you. Their free online Library has a little book that deals with that topic entitled "Feast days and Sabbaths".
Anon

Broomfield, CO

#15 Feb 9, 2011
Mr_Know it all wrote:
The feast days as well as the rest of the ceremonial laws were "only a shadow" pointing to the Messiah. Jesus "the substance" fulfilled this prophecy. Gal. 3:19 "Where then serveth the law? It was added BECAUSE of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made;..."
God's law his moral law, is a transcript of his character which changes not. It existed before sin. The additional laws were added because of sin until Christ the seed fulfilled all.
Friend, Christians are no longers under any obligation to observe feast days.
The website amazingfacts.org can be ofgreat help to you. Their free online Library has a little book that deals with that topic entitled "Feast days and Sabbaths".
Well said! To keep the feasts in these last days is to profess by action that Christ never did come, thus those who keep the feasts are denying Christ. It is just that simple.

As for keeping the feasts in heaven and the new earth. The observance of those feasts will be far different than they are written in the word. For those feasts were added because of transgression of God's law. But in heaven and the new earth there will be no sin, transgression of God's law, thus those ceremonies will be completely different.

It is my opinion that those who keep those feasts, which point to the cross and not back at the cross, have gone off into fanaticism. They hold the "shadow" to be the exact image instead of the actual image, and then try to make the image of the shadow comform to the shadow, the passover and the death of Christ is just on such example of this fanatical thinking.

Those feasts keepers have not done their homework and stood in front of a light and then look at the wall, and then ask themselves, Why does my image look different in the mirror versus the shadow? The answer is that the shadow is just that, a shadow and does not put forth the details of the image that cast the shadow. Basically I'm saying that they are confused and have lost their common sense.

Besides all, the feast keepers have not one example from any of the founders of the sda church or it's subsequent leaders or of the disciples of keeping the feasts that are associated with the old covenant Sanctuary. We now live under the new covenant sanctuary. There is a big difference. And they refuse to see it, and they mistakenly call it rejecting truth, but it is they that reject the truth of the new covenant instead. Oh wonderful blindness! They can barely keep 10 simple commandments and they want to add thousands more???? They are confused!
Rockroller

AOL

#16 Feb 9, 2011
Mr_Know it all wrote:
The feast days as well as the rest of the ceremonial laws were "only a shadow" pointing to the Messiah. Jesus "the substance" fulfilled this prophecy. Gal. 3:19 "Where then serveth the law? It was added BECAUSE of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made;..."
God's law his moral law, is a transcript of his character which changes not. It existed before sin. The additional laws were added because of sin until Christ the seed fulfilled all.
Friend, Christians are no longers under any obligation to observe feast days.
The website amazingfacts.org can be ofgreat help to you. Their free online Library has a little book that deals with that topic entitled "Feast days and Sabbaths".
Good attempt to answer this as your answer is in step with most Christians. Truth is, none of the health and safety codes and regulations for the old nation of Israel are valid today. So why do the SDA members think eating pork is a sin?

Since: Jan 11

Jackson, TN

#17 Feb 9, 2011
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>Well said! To keep the feasts in these last days is to profess by action that Christ never did come, thus those who keep the feasts are denying Christ. It is just that simple.
As for keeping the feasts in heaven and the new earth. The observance of those feasts will be far different than they are written in the word. For those feasts were added because of transgression of God's law. But in heaven and the new earth there will be no sin, transgression of God's law, thus those ceremonies will be completely different.
It is my opinion that those who keep those feasts, which point to the cross and not back at the cross, have gone off into fanaticism. They hold the "shadow" to be the exact image instead of the actual image, and then try to make the image of the shadow comform to the shadow, the passover and the death of Christ is just on such example of this fanatical thinking.
Those feasts keepers have not done their homework and stood in front of a light and then look at the wall, and then ask themselves, Why does my image look different in the mirror versus the shadow? The answer is that the shadow is just that, a shadow and does not put forth the details of the image that cast the shadow. Basically I'm saying that they are confused and have lost their common sense.
Besides all, the feast keepers have not one example from any of the founders of the sda church or it's subsequent leaders or of the disciples of keeping the feasts that are associated with the old covenant Sanctuary. We now live under the new covenant sanctuary. There is a big difference. And they refuse to see it, and they mistakenly call it rejecting truth, but it is they that reject the truth of the new covenant instead. Oh wonderful blindness! They can barely keep 10 simple commandments and they want to add thousands more???? They are confused!
I'm curious,....what scriptures concluded you to think that we will observe the feasts days even in Heaven. The Sabbath is only eternal.
Qualify your statement? I eagerly await you answer.

Since: Jan 11

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#18 Feb 9, 2011
Any one can keep any day , the SDA do not forbid people from keeping any feast or holy day even chrismas and easter.
the seventh day sabbath is the only one found in the ten commandments.
COL 2: 16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."

What holy days or offerings a man observes for God is between him and God as long as he keeps the ten commandments of Jesus's royal law of liberty and does not sacrifice animals and thus deny Christ's sacrifice.
martinezjosei

Westerville, OH

#19 Feb 9, 2011
BJ Simpson wrote:
<quoted text>That is a really easy one!

Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law. Galations 3

It is because they are cursed that they do not do everything written in the book of the law!

I love it!
Actually, it is the other way around.

They ate cursed because they ignore God's commands but follow Ellen Whites commands, like Passover four times a year, doctrine of man, actually of woman!
martinezjosei

Westerville, OH

#20 Feb 9, 2011
shawn3712 wrote:
Any one can keep any day , the SDA do not forbid people from keeping any feast or holy day even chrismas and easter.
the seventh day sabbath is the only one found in the ten commandments.
COL 2: 16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."

What holy days or offerings a man observes for God is between him and God as long as he keeps the ten commandments of Jesus's royal law of liberty and does not sacrifice animals and thus deny Christ's sacrifice.
Can we observe Sunday as long as we keep the Commandments?

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