Anon

Greenville, MI

#4228 Mar 2, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>The monogenes theos.
Where is the bible text that reads as you write?
Anon

Greenville, MI

#4229 Mar 2, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>Further Two Divines post the new heavens and new earth [ Rev 21] is not a triune Godhead.
At the present how many members are there in the Godhead?
Gerhard Ebersoehn

South Africa

#4230 Mar 2, 2013
I believe in God the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Calvinist
birdman

Shelbyville, IL

#4231 Mar 2, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
There are thick heads and there are thickheads.
Hysterical Adventista is unfortunately in both thickhead categories and needs to be weaned off the milk. Heb 5:13-14
Hysterical Adventist is unable to think thru the ramifications of Phillipians chapter two - where Ho Logos, who was in the form of God,[John 1] took the form of a slave to become the uniquely begotten God. The monogenes theos. He also thought it not robbery to be equal with God in the condescension. WHile in the FORM OF GOD - the spirit form,[God is spirit - Jn 4:24] it is to be clearly undertood that Ho Logos prior to Bethlehem was not once named Jesus. He was THE WORD. Since Bethlehem He was announced by Gabriel that He shall be called [what tense is that?] the Son of God [Lk 1:35]
UNless Hysterical Adventista acknowldges the Scriptures Hysterical Adventista will continue to be worse than an infidel in bearing false witness. Two divines en arche is not a Triune Godhead thickhead! Further Two Divines post the new heavens and new earth [ Rev 21] is not a triune Godhead.
Hysterical Adventista will under the spell of Arianonics prefer to say Jesus was born twice and cannot prove that let alone explain John 1:1-3.
As to speaking about His ministration as High Priest, thats an impossible task for junior Hysterical who still is drawing circles in the mess of pottage and flinging it still onto the floor.
ALF GARBAGE here!

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#4232 Mar 2, 2013
>You and the rest of the ALF profess that Jesus Christ had a beginning at Bethlehem, and also deny his pre-existence by proclaiming that he is the 'new entrant' of the Godhead. Strike two against your theory. You can't have it both ways dude, you must chose one. He either existed prior to Bethlehem or he didn't.

ARGH!! He whom we call Jesus Christ is God-man, i.e., God incarnate in man. There was NO incarnation before Bethlehem. Since we don't have a name for God the Son, lousy English, we can refer to "Him" before Bethlehem as Michael.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#4233 Mar 2, 2013
>He was THE WORD.

In John 1; now try the OT. What was His name? Not title, name.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#4234 Mar 2, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>At the present how many members are there in the Godhead?
Hysterical Adventist thinks there is only one!

Relagating and demoting Jesus to obscurity
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#4235 Mar 2, 2013
djconklin wrote:
>You and the rest of the ALF profess that Jesus Christ had a beginning at Bethlehem, and also deny his pre-existence by proclaiming that he is the 'new entrant' of the Godhead. Strike two against your theory. You can't have it both ways dude, you must chose one. He either existed prior to Bethlehem or he didn't.
ARGH!! He whom we call Jesus Christ is God-man, i.e., God incarnate in man. There was NO incarnation before Bethlehem. Since we don't have a name for God the Son, lousy English, we can refer to "Him" before Bethlehem as Michael.
The readers rewuire Bible referencs and why CON McDOODLE also demotes Ho Logos [ The Word ]
Anon

Greenville, MI

#4236 Mar 2, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Hysterical Adventist thinks there is only one!
Relagating and demoting Jesus to obscurity
Come on now. ALF says that Jesus Christ is the 'new entrant' into the Godhead. So is there only one, two, three or more Godhead's?
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#4237 Mar 2, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>Where is the bible text that reads as you write?
Pay attention

Jn 1:18
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#4238 Mar 2, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
There are thick heads and there are thickheads.
Hysterical Adventista is unfortunately in both thickhead categories and needs to be weaned off the milk. Heb 5:13-14
Hysterical Adventist is unable to think thru the ramifications of Phillipians chapter two - where Ho Logos, who was in the form of God,[John 1] took the form of a slave to become the uniquely begotten God. The monogenes theos. He also thought it not robbery to be equal with God in the condescension. WHile in the FORM OF GOD - the spirit form,[God is spirit - Jn 4:24] it is to be clearly undertood that Ho Logos prior to Bethlehem was not once named Jesus. He was THE WORD. Since Bethlehem He was announced by Gabriel that He shall be called [what tense is that?] the Son of God [Lk 1:35]
UNless Hysterical Adventista acknowldges the Scriptures Hysterical Adventista will continue to be worse than an infidel in bearing false witness. Two divines en arche is not a Triune Godhead thickhead! Further Two Divines post the new heavens and new earth [ Rev 21] is not a triune Godhead.
Hysterical Adventista will under the spell of Arianonics prefer to say Jesus was born twice and cannot prove that let alone explain John 1:1-3.
As to speaking about His ministration as High Priest, thats an impossible task for junior Hysterical who still is drawing circles in the mess of pottage and flinging it still onto the floor.
Unanswerable
Anon

Greenville, MI

#4239 Mar 2, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
There are thick heads and there are thickheads.
Hysterical Adventista is unfortunately in both thickhead categories and needs to be weaned off the milk. Heb 5:13-14
Hysterical Adventist is unable to think thru the ramifications of Phillipians chapter two - where Ho Logos, who was in the form of God,[John 1] took the form of a slave to become the uniquely begotten God. The monogenes theos. He also thought it not robbery to be equal with God in the condescension. WHile in the FORM OF GOD - the spirit form,[God is spirit - Jn 4:24] it is to be clearly undertood that Ho Logos prior to Bethlehem was not once named Jesus. He was THE WORD. Since Bethlehem He was announced by Gabriel that He shall be called [what tense is that?] the Son of God [Lk 1:35]
UNless Hysterical Adventista acknowldges the Scriptures Hysterical Adventista will continue to be worse than an infidel in bearing false witness. Two divines en arche is not a Triune Godhead thickhead! Further Two Divines post the new heavens and new earth [ Rev 21] is not a triune Godhead.
Hysterical Adventista will under the spell of Arianonics prefer to say Jesus was born twice and cannot prove that let alone explain John 1:1-3.
As to speaking about His ministration as High Priest, thats an impossible task for junior Hysterical who still is drawing circles in the mess of pottage and flinging it still onto the floor.
Stop hiding behind the two in the beginning story. How many God's do you promote at the present?

You insist on two in the beginning, but what bearing has that on present truth? You ALF seem very anxious to avoid speaking about the Present.

ALF teach that Jesus Christ did not exist prior to Bethlehem. In order to give an appearance of complying with what is written in the Bible you all have come up with the Eternal Spirit that split in two and left Jesus Christ with no divine powers and made less than the Angels, but in order to keep his Divinity you say that he is the 'new entrant' into the Godhead. And none of you have one Scripture text to support such a theory. You function under the Trinity error that the HS is another person like unto God and Christ, this also lacks Scripture proof.

Scripture proof is what I'm asking for and you can not provide, so your only choice is to attack the person instead of the message.
Anon

Greenville, MI

#4240 Mar 2, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Pay attention
Jn 1:18
Sorry try again, it plainly reads 'only begotten Son' which is monogenes hurios not monogenes theos.
Robert Two

Australia

#4241 Mar 2, 2013
djconklin wrote:
>You and the rest of the ALF profess that Jesus Christ had a beginning at Bethlehem, and also deny his pre-existence by proclaiming that he is the 'new entrant' of the Godhead. Strike two against your theory. You can't have it both ways dude, you must chose one. He either existed prior to Bethlehem or he didn't.
ARGH!! He whom we call Jesus Christ is God-man, i.e., God incarnate in man. There was NO incarnation before Bethlehem. Since we don't have a name for God the Son, lousy English, we can refer to "Him" before Bethlehem as Michael.
DJ you are on the right track. ALF have a theory >
Like me they avoid TRINITY.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#4242 Mar 2, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry try again, it plainly reads 'only begotten Son' which is monogenes hurios not monogenes theos.
Try harder

Hysterical Adventist is now citing Greek - how wonders occur!

Now do the homework and resolve why

John's first use of the word in his Gospel (1:14) determines its use in the other four references.

It was after John had declared "the Word (LOGOS) was made flesh, and dwelt among us," that he writes of Him as "the only begotten of the Father" (MONOGENES PARA PATROS).

John begins his prologue by placing Jesus Christ as the Word who was with God "in beginning" (EN ARCHE) and declaring that He, too, was God (KAI THEOS EN HO LOGOS).

PAY ATTENTION,

John did not use the word, monogenes to designate Jesus Christ until AFTER Bethlehem. The pre-existent Christ, the LOGOS, was the self-existent Christ, the I &#913;&#924; (EGO EIMI&#769;) of John 8:58.

Thayer cites two other words that John could have used had he intended,“begotten,” in the sense of being generated. One, is (&#947;&#949;&#957 ;&#769;&#769;&#769 ;&#957;&#949;&#963 ;&#953;&#962;) genesis, a begetting, a birth, and is so used in the reference to Jesus by Matthew (1:18) and Luke (1:14) but it is not genos, the other word is Gennetos, which means begotten, born. John used neither!(See Thayers Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, p.113)

John 1:18

"No man hath seen God at any time; {an} only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him.

[Bruce M Metzger, in A TEXTUAL COMMENTARY of the GREEK NEW TESTAMENT, stated regarding John 1:18]

'With the acquisition of the Payri 66 and Payri 75, both of which read THEOS, the external support of this reading has been notably strengthened.{p.198]
Pioneer

Goodyear, AZ

#4244 Mar 2, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>Where is the bible text that reads as you write?
It has been posted more times that you have years. Thing is when your a thickhead and walking in darkness you fail to observe , see or hear anything of the GODS and their truths!
A Voice In The Wilderness

Langhorne, PA

#4245 Mar 2, 2013
Pioneer wrote:
<quoted text>
It has been posted more times that you have years. Thing is when your a thickhead and walking in darkness you fail to observe , see or hear anything of the GODS and their truths!
As usual, the character of Christ is absent from all the ALF posts. No Christ = no truth.
Pioneer

Goodyear, AZ

#4246 Mar 2, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>Come on now. ALF says that Jesus Christ is the 'new entrant' into the Godhead. So is there only one, two, three or more Godhead's?
Only one Godhead thickhead!
Pioneer

Goodyear, AZ

#4248 Mar 2, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Pay attention
Jn 1:18
That is why these thickheads do not get it, they are all to lazy to go and look up the verses listed unless you post them for them.

The poor thickheads, I would not post the verses for them as they are given the texts #'s and if they truly had a desire for truth they woud search into the depts of the word to findit but they will not.

The spiritually lazy do not deserve to receive the work of years of study and research to be handed to them on a silver plater, nor do they deserve to walk on the road to light and truth when they are to lazy and want a free ride.

Gods see!

The Proof has been posted dozens and dozens of times if they had a desire to receive the blessing and guidance of the Holy Spirit, but they have all scoffed rather than test what they beieve against a Thus Saith the Lord. They hate the messengers so they spew theevidence and truth presented which they have never been able to prove it is not Biblical.

To bad for the thickheads.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#4249 Mar 2, 2013
A Voice In The Wilderness wrote:
<quoted text>
As usual, the character of Christ is absent from all the ALF posts. No Christ = no truth.
Absent from the Voicebox efforts is any semblance of the SPirit of Truth and doesnt bother to uplift Christ and His rightoeusness

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