Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#309 Mar 2, 2013
Non sequitur. Try again, like you've done on another thread, to keep up with the flow of the conversation.

Since: Jan 12

Sparks, NV

#310 Mar 2, 2013
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>If you knew science you'd realize that one cannot see what one has not be trained to look for in the first place.
Not thinking is what the critics have done about Ellen White over 290 times so far.
Exactly!! You have been trained to see something that is not there to begin with.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#311 Mar 2, 2013
Walt50 wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly!! You have been trained to see something that is not there to begin with.
No, that's the critics who claim plagiarism. It isn't there to begin with.
Robert Two

Australia

#312 Mar 2, 2013
EGW says the SDA PASTORS will take the SDA MEMBER into SUNDAY KEEPING.
We have know this for many years.
Yet we have not sorted oput General Conference YET ?
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#313 Mar 2, 2013
For you people who believe in the lies from EGW, please note that there will NOT be and event called "The National Sunday Law" in the future as it is not found in the end time prophecy from Daniel or from Revelation. Its just another lie from the words and lips of Ellen G. White, a false prophet as Jesus told us in Rev. 2:19-24.
Robert Two

Australia

#314 Mar 2, 2013
Rockroller wrote:
For you people who believe in the lies from EGW, please note that there will NOT be and event called "The National Sunday Law" in the future as it is not found in the end time prophecy from Daniel or from Revelation. Its just another lie from the words and lips of Ellen G. White, a false prophet as Jesus told us in Rev. 2:19-24.
Then why in 1888 was the USA goiiverment working on such a law ?

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#315 Mar 2, 2013
For you people who do not believe in the predictions made by EGW, please note that there WILL be an event called "The National Sunday Law" in the future as it is found in the end-time prophecies of Daniel 11 and Revelation 13-17. It is just another amazing fact from the words of the Bible and of God's true messenger E.G. White, a true prophet and when it happens the message will have a power that it could not have had before especially that so many had denied it could ever happen here in America and then in all parts of the world.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#316 Mar 2, 2013
>EGW says the SDA PASTORS will take the SDA MEMBER into SUNDAY KEEPING.

Lie #292.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#317 Mar 2, 2013
Rockroller wrote:
For you people who believe in the lies from EGW, please note that there will NOT be and event called "The National Sunday Law" in the future as it is not found in the end time prophecy from Daniel or from Revelation. Its just another lie from the words and lips of Ellen G. White, a false prophet as Jesus told us in Rev. 2:19-24.
And yet with all of the alleged lies by EGW it is the critics who have lied over 290 times.

We'll find out the truth soon enough and then the critics will lie yet again that they ever said such a thing.

Print it so you can show people later on.
Klink

Kazakhstan

#318 Mar 2, 2013
skyblue888 wrote:
For you people who do not believe in the predictions made by EGW, please note that there WILL be an event called "The National Sunday Law" in the future.. <snip>

What you are claiming is a) predictions b) futurism c) revived holy roman empire?

See how this is no different than other denomination who also predict a revived HRE?

Yet, Napoleon ended the 42 month sea beast and replaced it. The govt today is secular. They dont want to make us worship at all.

Sunday laws in the USA past were only due to the majority population at that time.

I believe it was J.N. Andrews who made this SDA prediction anyway, not EGW.

What we can predict for the future is this secular govt will continue to eliminate Christians, not force the world to be Christian.

SDA FAIL.

Since: Jan 12

Sparks, NV

#319 Mar 2, 2013
skyblue888 wrote:
For you people who do not believe in the predictions made by EGW, please note that there WILL be an event called "The National Sunday Law" in the future as it is found in the end-time prophecies of Daniel 11 and Revelation 13-17. It is just another amazing fact from the words of the Bible and of God's true messenger E.G. White, a true prophet and when it happens the message will have a power that it could not have had before especially that so many had denied it could ever happen here in America and then in all parts of the world.
And where does it say in Daniel or Revelations that there will be Sunday Laws. Please provide.

Since: Jan 12

Sparks, NV

#320 Mar 2, 2013
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>No, that's the critics who claim plagiarism. It isn't there to begin with.
Nobody claimed plagiarism as a whole issue and your trying to use it as a red herring. Thats only a fragment of the whole SDA belief in IJ, Sancuary, 10-22-1844, visions, etc. etc. none of which can be proven biblicaly. That's what the critics claim.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#321 Mar 2, 2013
Robert Two wrote:
EGW says the SDA PASTORS will take the SDA MEMBER into SUNDAY KEEPING.
?
Thats true - R2 should state where Mrs White said this.
Klink

Kazakhstan

#322 Mar 2, 2013
Walt50 wrote:
Nobody claimed plagiarism as a whole issue and your trying to use it as a red herring. Thats only a fragment of the whole SDA belief in IJ, Sancuary, 10-22-1844, visions, etc. etc. none of which can be proven biblicaly. That's what the critics claim.

Not plagiarism, literary borrowing.

Many were looking into the 2300 day prophecy at that time. William Miller and the South American Jesuit were among those claiming it was about the return of Jesus. But many denominations or Christians across the western world of Christendom were looking into this. So there is something biblical to it.

Prophecy always uses day-year principle, yes?

Then we have 1844 out of the 2300 day prophecy.

We are told Jesus is the High Priest in the heavenly temple. What takes place there is image of earthly temple.

There are actual criticisms of SDA but this is not one of them.

I was just watching Waalter Veith's channel online. The speaker was pushing EGW sooo hard it should be obvious. He was saying in the end those who reject EGW were lost ect ect. The whole thing does not look good for Veith. This doesnt mean 1844 is wrong. So SDA are right about this and other things. Many fall into the trap of rejecting Ellen White = reject 1844 or if you believe 1844 you must be SDA.

EGW wrote Bible commentary that was right about a lot of things common at that time. However, where their crew veered off path is with the identification of the earth beast & throwing the seven vials off into the future.

The Seven Vials

www.geocities.ws/pitbeast/


Robert Two

Australia

#323 Mar 2, 2013
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats true - R2 should state where Mrs White said this.
I should but it can be found in the EGW INDEXES very easily.
Robert Two

Australia

#324 Mar 2, 2013
djconklin wrote:
>EGW says the SDA PASTORS will take the SDA MEMBER into SUNDAY KEEPING.
Lie #292.
GOD knows EGW wrote that MATTHEW 25:40.
You just called GOD a LIAR be very carefull DJ.
The SDA CHURCH print and sell this material.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#325 Mar 2, 2013
Robert Two wrote:
<quoted text> I should but it can be found in the EGW INDEXES very easily.
Quite easily

Since: Jan 12

Sparks, NV

#328 Mar 2, 2013
skyblue888 wrote:
For you people who do not believe in the predictions made by EGW, please note that there WILL be an event called "The National Sunday Law" in the future as it is found in the end-time prophecies of Daniel 11 and Revelation 13-17. It is just another amazing fact from the words of the Bible and of God's true messenger E.G. White, a true prophet and when it happens the message will have a power that it could not have had before especially that so many had denied it could ever happen here in America and then in all parts of the world.
Well what happened to all her other predictions that failed? You forget something here skyblue888, her prediction scorecard is currently at -0-.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#329 Mar 2, 2013
Walt50 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well what happened to all her other predictions that failed? You forget something here skyblue888, her prediction scorecard is currently at -0-.
Which predictions ?

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#330 Mar 2, 2013
djconklin wrote:
>EGW says the SDA PASTORS will take the SDA MEMBER into SUNDAY KEEPING.
Lie #292.
Yes, I have read this. They will urge Sunday keeping in open air meetings.(campmeetings?)

sky

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