When Is The Harvest of Matthew 13:30???

When Is The Harvest of Matthew 13:30???

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Since: Jul 10

Montgomery, AL

#1 Jan 9, 2011
The Parable of the wheat & tares:
What is the harvest & when does it begin???

*Matthew 13:24-30

24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

*Matthew 13:36-42

36Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

...SOP says in COL
" Christ's servants are grieved as they see true and false believers mingled in the church. They long to do something to cleanse the church. Like the servants of the householder, they are ready to uproot the tares. But Christ says to them, "Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest." {COL 71.2}

The tares and the wheat are to grow together until the harvest; and the harvest is the end of probationary time.{COL 71.3}

Early Writings pg. 118--- I then saw the third angel. Said my accompanying angel, "Fearful is his work. Awful is his mission. He is the angel that is to select the wheat from the tares, and seal, or bind, the wheat for the heavenly garner. These things should engross the whole mind, the whole attention." {EW 118}

...So, when does the harvest begin???
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#2 Jan 10, 2011
Present Truth wrote:
The Parable of the wheat & tares:
What is the harvest & when does it begin???
*Matthew 13:24-30
24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
*Matthew 13:36-42
36Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
...SOP says in COL
" Christ's servants are grieved as they see true and false believers mingled in the church. They long to do something to cleanse the church. Like the servants of the householder, they are ready to uproot the tares. But Christ says to them, "Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest." {COL 71.2}
The tares and the wheat are to grow together until the harvest; and the harvest is the end of probationary time.{COL 71.3}
Early Writings pg. 118--- I then saw the third angel. Said my accompanying angel, "Fearful is his work. Awful is his mission. He is the angel that is to select the wheat from the tares, and seal, or bind, the wheat for the heavenly garner. These things should engross the whole mind, the whole attention." {EW 118}
...So, when does the harvest begin???
Jesus said it would commence when Jerusalem would no longer be trodden down of the nations. This prophetic event signalled the commencment of the Third Phase of Jesus' ministry as High Priest. Lev 16.

The restoration of the capital of Israel to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv occured in 1980. This brought to the fulfilment of [Luke 21:24]. This brought to end the prophecy and signalled we entered the end of time as distinct from teh time of the end and even more statrling was taught by the SDA mainline Church in worldwide SS in 1980. Second SS lesson.

No one can say the SDA Church was never alerted by Heaven. NO ONE!

But the SDA Church chose to play the harlot and sealed her fate by signing her decree nisi from Heaven with the 27FB. She chose apostasy.

The Wheat are separated from the tares and not vice versa. Note if you will EW 118 amply provided by PT
anti trolls

Australia

#3 Jan 10, 2011
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus said it would commence when Jerusalem would no longer be trodden down of the nations. This prophetic event signalled the commencment of the Third Phase of Jesus' ministry as High Priest. Lev 16.
The restoration of the capital of Israel to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv occured in 1980. This brought to the fulfilment of [Luke 21:24]. This brought to end the prophecy and signalled we entered the end of time as distinct from teh time of the end and even more statrling was taught by the SDA mainline Church in worldwide SS in 1980. Second SS lesson.
No one can say the SDA Church was never alerted by Heaven. NO ONE!
But the SDA Church chose to play the harlot and sealed her fate by signing her decree nisi from Heaven with the 27FB. She chose apostasy.
The Wheat are separated from the tares and not vice versa. Note if you will EW 118 amply provided by PT
Troll alert.
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#4 Jan 10, 2011
Tony is back

trolling

not once adding any thing worthy for consideration

BTW
Tony teaches sinless perfectionism
anti trolls

Australia

#5 Jan 10, 2011
Lay Worker wrote:
Tony is back
trolling
not once adding any thing worthy for consideration
BTW
Tony teaches sinless perfectionism
You are nothing but a TROLL with nothing but false doctrines. Doctrines of the devil.

Troll alert is being sounded. Lay Worker is back trolling the forums with his doctrines of the devil and his nasty attacks at all those who do not agree with him. Beware of this troll everyone. Beware.

Since: Jul 10

Montgomery, AL

#6 Jan 10, 2011
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus said it would commence when Jerusalem would no longer be trodden down of the nations. This prophetic event signalled the commencment of the Third Phase of Jesus' ministry as High Priest. Lev 16.
The restoration of the capital of Israel to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv occured in 1980. This brought to the fulfilment of [Luke 21:24]. This brought to end the prophecy and signalled we entered the end of time as distinct from teh time of the end and even more statrling was taught by the SDA mainline Church in worldwide SS in 1980. Second SS lesson.
No one can say the SDA Church was never alerted by Heaven. NO ONE!
But the SDA Church chose to play the harlot and sealed her fate by signing her decree nisi from Heaven with the 27FB. She chose apostasy.
The Wheat are separated from the tares and not vice versa. Note if you will EW 118 amply provided by PT
Early Writings pg. 118--- I then saw the third angel. Said my accompanying angel, "Fearful is his work. Awful is his mission. He is the angel that is to select the wheat from the tares, and seal, or bind, the wheat for the heavenly garner. These things should engross the whole mind, the whole attention." {EW 118}
...So, when does the harvest begin???
She says the 3rd Angel seals the wheat for the heavenly garner. The Harvest cannot begin until we are sealed. When will be sealed?

"The Lord has shown me clearly that the image of the beast will be formed before probation closes; for it is to be the great test for the people of God, by which their eternal destiny will be decided.... This is the test that the people of God must have before they are sealed. All who proved their loyalty to God by observing His law, and refusing to accept a spurious sabbath, will rank under the banner of the Lord God Jehovah, and will receive the seal of the living God. Those who yield the truth of heavenly origin and accept the Sunday sabbath, will receive the mark of the beast (Letter 11, 1890).{7BC 976.3}

The NSL is the test that the people of God must have before we are sealed. The sealing does not begin until the NSL. So accordingly, the Harvest cannot begin until the NSL. The wheat are separated from the tares at the NSL, and this is known as the final shaking. Notice it is the 3rd Angel that separates the wheat from the tares. This is the same angel that warns us against receiving the mark of the beast-which is Sunday worship. So the Harvest cannot begin until we are tested with the Sabbath/Sunday issue.

"(Speaking of the NSL) The great issue so near at hand will weed out those whom God has not appointed and He will have a pure, true, sanctified ministry prepared for the latter rain....{3SM 385.3}"

The Harvest begins at the passing of the National Sunday Law

Since: Aug 08

Christchurch New Zealand

#7 Jan 10, 2011
Present Truth wrote:
The Parable of the wheat & tares:
What is the harvest & when does it begin???
*Matthew 13:24-30
24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
*Matthew 13:36-42
36Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
...SOP says in COL
" Christ's servants are grieved as they see true and false believers mingled in the church. They long to do something to cleanse the church. Like the servants of the householder, they are ready to uproot the tares. But Christ says to them, "Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest." {COL 71.2}
The tares and the wheat are to grow together until the harvest; and the harvest is the end of probationary time.{COL 71.3}
Early Writings pg. 118--- I then saw the third angel. Said my accompanying angel, "Fearful is his work. Awful is his mission. He is the angel that is to select the wheat from the tares, and seal, or bind, the wheat for the heavenly garner. These things should engross the whole mind, the whole attention." {EW 118}
...So, when does the harvest begin???
Matthew 13:26 begins at anytime there is open SIN.
TARES have been maturing every day.
The end of the world TARES have to harvested when they are not ready. ONLY angels can tell imature TARES from wheat in the BLADE.
EGW is clwar on UNCHECKED YTARES. making the WHEAT RANK.
wensday

Mount Morris, MI

#8 Jan 11, 2011
This is how I KNOW SDAs are blind.

Jesus said, the harvest is the end of the world, but they do not see that. Somehow, they just CAN'T no matter how plain it is made to them!!!

Instead, they invent their own interpretation through the imagination of EGW: the passing of the NSL.

*** sigh and cries VERY deeply ***

Since: Jul 10

Huntsville, AL

#9 Jan 14, 2011
wensday wrote:
This is how I KNOW SDAs are blind.
Jesus said, the harvest is the end of the world, but they do not see that. Somehow, they just CAN'T no matter how plain it is made to them!!!
Instead, they invent their own interpretation through the imagination of EGW: the passing of the NSL.
*** sigh and cries VERY deeply ***
If you go to the original interpretation of the text...the correct interpretation of "the end of the world" actually means "the end of the age" which signifies that the harvest will actually take place a little before the actual end of the world. Go check it out in the Greek. The period between the NSL up to the Close of Probation is right on point with Scripture.
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#10 Jan 14, 2011
Present Truth wrote:
<quoted text>

Early Writings pg. 118---

I then saw the third angel. Said my accompanying angel, "Fearful is his work. Awful is his mission. He is the angel that is to select the wheat from the tares, and seal, or bind, the wheat for the heavenly garner. These things should engross the whole mind, the whole attention." {EW 118}

...So, when does the harvest begin???

She says the 3rd Angel seals the wheat for the heavenly garner. The Harvest cannot begin until we are sealed. When will be sealed?

The sealing time and the Harvest are two timely aspects for the same purpose.

The harvest includes the shaking and a secondary process on the way to the Heavenly Garner; its the sifting [Mat 3:12]. This occurs prior to the Second Coming. The sifting is the chaff from the wheat on the way to the Heavenly Garner by The Farmer. The shaking is the wheat from the tares. Whereas, the tares remain and are bundled together in the church to be burnt.[13:30]

Hence the True Witness was right when He said Laodicea is to be spued.

EW 118 is correct in what it states. The wheat are separated from the tares. The tares are not taken out of the church. These things should engross the whole mind, the whole attention.

Since: Aug 08

Christchurch New Zealand

#11 Jan 14, 2011
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
The sealing time and the Harvest are two timely aspects for the same purpose.
The harvest includes the shaking and a secondary process on the way to the Heavenly Garner; its the sifting [Mat 3:12]. This occurs prior to the Second Coming. The sifting is the chaff from the wheat on the way to the Heavenly Garner by The Farmer. The shaking is the wheat from the tares. Whereas, the tares remain and are bundled together in the church to be burnt.[13:30]
Hence the True Witness was right when He said Laodicea is to be spued.
EW 118 is correct in what it states. The wheat are separated from the tares. The tares are not taken out of the church. These things should engross the whole mind, the whole attention.
Verse 26 is a natural harvest.
VERSE 30 is a forced harvest because time is going to end.
The FACT IS this division humans will not notoice it. THIS IS SPIRITUAL not pgysical.
But yes most people will have made a choice. other will stand with the REMNANT but not be able to retain the statis because the LIGHT will consume them.

Since: Aug 08

Christchurch New Zealand

#12 Jan 14, 2011
The term REMNANT CHURCH is that a REMNANT comes out of the multitude in error.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#13 Jan 14, 2011
Present Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
If you go to the original interpretation of the text...the correct interpretation of "the end of the world" actually means "the end of the age" which signifies that the harvest will actually take place a little before the actual end of the world. Go check it out in the Greek. The period between the NSL up to the Close of Probation is right on point with Scripture.
What happens at the end of the age (as you would have it)?

"Jesus will send his angels to gathjer out of His kingdom all things that offend and those who practice lawlessness and will cast them into the furnace of fire." Mat. 13:41-42.

Does this sound like the White NSL to you?

*** sighs and cries even more deeply ***

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#14 Jan 14, 2011
SDAs are utterly, utterly blinded, debazzled even by the glare of the lesser light! They have fallen asleep to the beautiful lullaby of her prose.

So sad.

Since: Aug 08

Christchurch New Zealand

#15 Jan 14, 2011
Present Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
If you go to the original interpretation of the text...the correct interpretation of "the end of the world" actually means "the end of the age" which signifies that the harvest will actually take place a little before the actual end of the world. Go check it out in the Greek. The period between the NSL up to the Close of Probation is right on point with Scripture.
It cannot be before probation because ANGELS are completeling the judgement.
Purfecting the SDA CHURCH that is another matter.
That is not THEE HARVEST. Getting the wheat sifted from the chaff.
The is sorting out the REMNANT. Sure that will be before the close of probation. The LOUD CRY has to be entered into.
The final harvest is right at the end of time. The issue of the ROD that Budded is inside the PEOPLE OD GOD.
The final harvest is from the WORLD.
Lay Worker

Perth, Australia

#16 Jan 14, 2011
theCircle wrote:
SDAs are utterly, utterly blinded, debazzled even by the glare of the lesser light! They have fallen asleep to the beautiful lullaby of her prose.
So sad.
Such is true - yet many have not

yet sleepines is not restricted ,
why not explain your glowingly
endorsement of the papal
view of the Godhead?

Anti trolls

Mittagong, Australia

#17 Jan 14, 2011
Lay Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Such is true - yet many have not
yet sleepines is not restricted ,
why not explain your glowingly
endorsement of the papal
view of the Godhead?
Stop your TROLLING

Since: Jul 10

Montgomery, AL

#18 Jan 18, 2011
theCircle wrote:
<quoted text>
What happens at the end of the age (as you would have it)?
"Jesus will send his angels to gathjer out of His kingdom all things that offend and those who practice lawlessness and will cast them into the furnace of fire." Mat. 13:41-42.
Does this sound like the White NSL to you?
*** sighs and cries even more deeply ***
Yes, the angels are holding back the winds of strife until the servants of God are sealed.

*Revelation 7:1-3...
1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

....that seal has everything to do with kepping ALL of Gods commandments, including the Sabbath.
David Koot

Petaluma, CA

#19 Jan 18, 2011
Present Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, the angels are holding back the winds of strife until the servants of God are sealed.
*Revelation 7:1-3...
1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
....that seal has everything to do with kepping ALL of Gods commandments, including the Sabbath.
Yes, Amen! The seal of God's approbation is placed upon those who are wholly following Jesus and faithful in every area of their lives.
robert two

Canberra, Australia

#20 Jan 18, 2011
David Koot wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, Amen! The seal of God's approbation is placed upon those who are wholly following Jesus and faithful in every area of their lives.
What about 1T page 361.
The SDA CHURCH sends members where they cannot OBEY GOD.
The ARMY.
Never go where angels cannot go.

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