Robert Two

Adelaide, Australia

#161 Aug 6, 2011
Ben_Masada wrote:
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They are regarded, but it is not written, and you cannot prove. What is written is that Israel is the Son of God. Read Exodus 4:22,23.
Ben
Read MATTHEW 25:40 same result.
Ye are gods is written twice as well.

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#162 Aug 6, 2011
djconklin wrote:
There is no reference to any biblical text in post #154.
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Yes, there is. Matthew 5:22.
Ben

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#163 Aug 29, 2011
See your post #159--the text you mention there isn't referenced in post #154.
DANNO

London, UK

#164 Mar 31, 2013
robert two wrote:
Now Paul must have been in DEPRESSION to write.
That that I would do I do not.
That that I would not that I do.
Only those in DEPRESSION will understand that this is how there life works and that is why it is so depressing.
If you have never had depression and only 60% of people are subject to depression then you have little idea as to the infliction this is.
Listen to Paul's critics he was small in statute and the only thing he had going for him was he had seen the light and had CONVICTION.
Is this guy DANNO too ?

I think half the members that post on here are being accused of being DANNO.

Dan
DANNO

London, UK

#165 Apr 1, 2013
robert two wrote:
Now Paul must have been in DEPRESSION to write.
That that I would do I do not.
That that I would not that I do.
Only those in DEPRESSION will understand that this is how there life works and that is why it is so depressing.
If you have never had depression and only 60% of people are subject to depression then you have little idea as to the infliction this is.
Listen to Paul's critics he was small in statute and the only thing he had going for him was he had seen the light and had CONVICTION.
http://www.disciplesofyeshuwa.com/custom.html

http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/paulthe....

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#166 Aug 17, 2013
djconklin wrote:
There is no reference to any biblical text in post #154.
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Sorry, I meant Exodus 4:22,23. A reference to Israel as the son of God. "Israel is My son said the Lord."

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#167 Aug 17, 2013
Exodus 4:22-23 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: 23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

metaphor. Not literal descendant from any Greek mythology.

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#168 Aug 19, 2013
djconklin wrote:
Exodus 4:22-23 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: 23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.
metaphor. Not literal descendant from any Greek mythology.
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Of course that's metaphorical. How could God Who is a Spirit have a literal son? That would be Greek Mythology. Now, to say that Jesus was God's son without an earthily human father is tantamount to Greek Mythology.
Earthcaller

Kissimmee, FL

#169 Aug 20, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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Of course that's metaphorical. How could God Who is a Spirit have a literal son? That would be Greek Mythology. Now, to say that Jesus was God's son without an earthily human father is tantamount to Greek Mythology.
Hi! Ben welcome back, you sure took a long time to return back to this present time. You probably have many new stories to tell us from your distant travels by way of your astral journeys. I noticed above that you were taken back to the era of Titan mythology? Keep in mind that the Bible states in Genesis 6 that there were giants in the past, these mythologies are simply echoes of the antediluvian era. Now lets get down to the matter at hand, does God have a literal Son. Its actually revealed in Zechariah 3:8 where we are told that God would send his servant the Branch. Now ask yourself, where does a branch stem from? You may also argue that this branch is just a human Messianic figure like David or Solomon etc. but there is one small detail that is mentioned in the verse, the Stone with 7 eyes and the comparison verse is found in Revelation 5:5,6 specifically verse 6. The New Testament also calls Yeshua the chief cornerstone that was rejected. Isaiah 9:6 designates him as a Son as well as an Everlasting Father and Mighty God.
Well! its time to say good-bye and keep us posted with regard to your next journey.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#170 Aug 24, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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Of course that's metaphorical. How could God Who is a Spirit have a literal son? That would be Greek Mythology. Now, to say that Jesus was God's son without an earthily human father is tantamount to Greek Mythology.
No proof.
DANNO

London, UK

#171 Aug 26, 2013
DANNO

London, UK

#172 Aug 26, 2013
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>No proof.
Proof is here> http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d...

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#173 Aug 26, 2013
Earthcaller wrote:
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Hi! Ben welcome back, you sure took a long time to return back to this present time. You probably have many new stories to tell us from your distant travels by way of your astral journeys. I noticed above that you were taken back to the era of Titan mythology? Keep in mind that the Bible states in Genesis 6 that there were giants in the past, these mythologies are simply echoes of the antediluvian era. Now lets get down to the matter at hand, does God have a literal Son. Its actually revealed in Zechariah 3:8 where we are told that God would send his servant the Branch. Now ask yourself, where does a branch stem from? You may also argue that this branch is just a human Messianic figure like David or Solomon etc. but there is one small detail that is mentioned in the verse, the Stone with 7 eyes and the comparison verse is found in Revelation 5:5,6 specifically verse 6. The New Testament also calls Yeshua the chief cornerstone that was rejected. Isaiah 9:6 designates him as a Son as well as an Everlasting Father and Mighty God.
Well! its time to say good-bye and keep us posted with regard to your next journey.
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Hi Earthcaller, thank you for the warm welcome. Zechariah in 3:8 is talking about Zerubabel the last remnant in the lineage of David
as a symbol of Judah the Tribe left and confirmed after the rejection of the Ten Tribes.(Psa.78:67-69) Zechariah prophesied at
about 520 BCE, the time the Jews were due to return. So there is no need to let our minds hover above other prairies. The Shoot here is a reference to the House of Jacob from the stock of Judah.(Isa.48:1)

As for Isaiah 9:6, that's a vision Isaiah had about the reaction of the Gentiles in the district of the Gentiles in the Galilee welcoming the Jews back from exile. The reference is the same applied by Isaiah in 7:14,15,22; 8:8. He even mentions Judah as Immanuel which means in the case "God with us" (the Gentiles).

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#174 Aug 26, 2013
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>No proof.
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No! Are you sure? Was Jesus a Christian or a Jew? Is there any case
of a Jew being born of God with an earthly woman? No. That's the proof that the case of Jesus is akin to Greek Mythology. You need no other.

“Home Among the Gum Trees”

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The World

#175 Aug 26, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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Of course that's metaphorical. How could God Who is a Spirit have a literal son? That would be Greek Mythology. Now, to say that Jesus was God's son without an earthily human father is tantamount to Greek Mythology.
You mean like how Heracles was the son of Zeus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules

Or Romulus and Remus were the sons of the Roman god Mars, with their mother a Vestal Virgin?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romulus_and_Remu...

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#176 Aug 27, 2013
Koala_Gums wrote:
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You mean like how Heracles was the son of Zeus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules
Or Romulus and Remus were the sons of the Roman god Mars, with their mother a Vestal Virgin?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romulus_and_Remu...
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Yes, these things do not exist in Judaism which was the Faith of Jesus. To use a Jew to preach Hellenism is akin to piracy or vandalism of Judaism with the things of Christianity which is a Hellenistic religion.

“Home Among the Gum Trees”

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The World

#177 Aug 28, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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Yes, these things do not exist in Judaism which was the Faith of Jesus. To use a Jew to preach Hellenism is akin to piracy or vandalism of Judaism with the things of Christianity which is a Hellenistic religion.
OK then. The Jews did become pretty Hellenised back in the days of Antiochus Epiphanes.

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#178 Aug 28, 2013
Koala_Gums wrote:
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OK then. The Jews did become pretty Hellenised back in the days of Antiochus Epiphanes.
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And that was a disaster for the Maccabees who had fight on a double
against the Greeks from outsides and Hellenists who caused more harm to the Cause than even the Greeks of Antiochus.
Earthcaller

Kissimmee, FL

#179 Aug 29, 2013
Ben_Masada wrote:
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Hi Earthcaller, thank you for the warm welcome. Zechariah in 3:8 is talking about Zerubabel the last remnant in the lineage of David
as a symbol of Judah the Tribe left and confirmed after the rejection of the Ten Tribes.(Psa.78:67-69) Zechariah prophesied at
about 520 BCE, the time the Jews were due to return. So there is no need to let our minds hover above other prairies. The Shoot here is a reference to the House of Jacob from the stock of Judah.(Isa.48:1)
As for Isaiah 9:6, that's a vision Isaiah had about the reaction of the Gentiles in the district of the Gentiles in the Galilee welcoming the Jews back from exile. The reference is the same applied by Isaiah in 7:14,15,22; 8:8. He even mentions Judah as Immanuel which means in the case "God with us" (the Gentiles).
The problem with your explanation is the fact that Isaiah 9:6 presents the supernatural element which is not present in your explanation, he shall be called "Mighty God , Everlasting Father" and this surely is not corporate since it is clearly referring to an individual.

Zecharia 3 also presents that same supernatural element of the Stone with 7 eyes which is also mentioned in Revelation 5:6 as being the 7 Spirits of God.
Earthcaller

Kissimmee, FL

#180 Aug 29, 2013
Question for Ben Masada, what do you think about the Cabala?

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