SamBee

Tuscaloosa, AL

#21 Sep 2, 2010
djconklin wrote:
>Why don't SDA pastors have jobs? I found out all the pastors come right out of the SDA's colleges are there not any men in the church that are called to preach?
And then, after they were called by God, they went to school to learn more about the Bible and how to contruct and preach sermons.
Isn't that the Holy Spirit's duty?

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#22 Sep 2, 2010
The HS calls; you have to learn.
Melanie

Gwynn Oak, MD

#23 Jul 9, 2012
djconklin wrote:
>Why don't SDA pastors have jobs? I found out all the pastors come right out of the SDA's colleges are there not any men in the church that are called to preach?
And then, after they were called by God, they went to school to learn more about the Bible and how to contruct and preach sermons.
They are called to preach, and many of them decide to go to college once they are called to preach, because studying God's word is a way to become closer to God. How can we set a standard for others, feeding them with the word if we don't know the word? Adventists eleive in Education and have set up colleges in many parts of the world. Jesus said, "Go ye therefore and teach all nations." We aso have lay ministers who are supported by our ordain ministers and conferences. Adventist ministers all recieve the same equivalent of pay, no matter what part of the world they work in. Many of them work between 2 churches, so lay ministers are important to us as they carry on the work.Also, are Pators are very busy during the week, visiting the sick and jailed, helping outin soup kitchens and praying with people. They do this all week and then have a sermon prepared for Saturday. It is a 24 hour job to be a Adventist Minister.
Melanie

Gwynn Oak, MD

#24 Jul 9, 2012
The Bible also states that many are called but the choosen are few. Adventists believe in the Holy Spirit and believe that God calls peopel to preach whether they have a college eduction or not. A church that I like to visit has a
little child that preaches. We as Adventists would like to support him in going to college when he is old enough. Any lay minister that would like to go to college will also be supported by our church. We cannot help that we believe in education and the study of God's word.
Melanie

Gwynn Oak, MD

#25 Jul 9, 2012
Saying that we choose our Pastors is a lie but the Bible preaches of evil doers, false accussers and despisers of those that are good, those that love the Lord.
Melanie

Gwynn Oak, MD

#26 Jul 9, 2012
Now days you have many people calling themselves Pastors and abusing religion to steal money from the poor, the rich and any body they can. I am glad that the General conferecne of Adventists supports their lay ministers (worldwide)by encouraging them to study God's word and get an education. Our ministry is Reaching up, Reaching out and Reaching Across! Look it up and also look at AmazingFacts.com . We also have a world ministry organization called : ADRA that provides food, relief, ministry and response to natural disasters, etc.So our pastors and lay ministers are alwasy working, even when they are not being paid becasue their pay is not that large especially compared to Pastor of other Christian faiths.
DANNO

London, UK

#27 Jul 10, 2012
Melanie wrote:
Saying that we choose our Pastors is a lie but the Bible preaches of evil doers, false accussers and despisers of those that are good, those that love the Lord.
Hi Mel

Have you been a SDA long?

Do you accpet EGW as a prophet and messenger of God?

Are EGW writings the SOP?

Do you love your SDA doctrine as much as you love spiritual truth?

Dan
birdman

Charleston, IL

#28 Jul 10, 2012
Melanie wrote:
The Bible also states that many are called but the choosen are few. Adventists believe in the Holy Spirit and believe that God calls peopel to preach whether they have a college eduction or not. A church that I like to visit has a
little child that preaches. We as Adventists would like to support him in going to college when he is old enough. Any lay minister that would like to go to college will also be supported by our church. We cannot help that we believe in education and the study of God's word.
"little child"

Sounds like a FAD that other churches are doing.
Debbie Reid

Apple Valley, CA

#29 Jul 10, 2012
I know of two SDA pastors who get full pay, but has big businesses on the side! Perhaps that is allowed, I am not sure about policy.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#30 Jul 10, 2012
Name them.

“Jesus is coming again!”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#31 Jul 10, 2012
You need to be a pastor on all 24hours per day and see how long you'll last. The burdens of the people is a lot of weight to carry. They are truly blessed if they receive 24 hour sabbath days rest.

bibleuniverse

“Jesus is coming again!”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#32 Jul 10, 2012
As a bible worker I have had middle of the night calls from someone saying they were cutting them self and decided that was enough for me. God Bless the faithful pastors.

bibleuniverse
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#33 Jul 10, 2012
Melanie wrote:
<quoted text>
They are called to preach, and many of them decide to go to college once they are called to preach, because studying God's word is a way to become closer to God. How can we set a standard for others, feeding them with the word if we don't know the word? Adventists eleive in Education and have set up colleges in many parts of the world. Jesus said, "Go ye therefore and teach all nations." We aso have lay ministers who are supported by our ordain ministers and conferences. Adventist ministers all recieve the same equivalent of pay, no matter what part of the world they work in. Many of them work between 2 churches, so lay ministers are important to us as they carry on the work.Also, are Pators are very busy during the week, visiting the sick and jailed, helping outin soup kitchens and praying with people. They do this all week and then have a sermon prepared for Saturday. It is a 24 hour job to be a Adventist Minister.
Teach all nations WHAT? They are to ONLY teach the same thing that Jesus said and taught, nothing less and nothing more. Problem is, the 'church' has become a business where they need trained pastors to bring in the money. In order to do that, the preachers must only preach and teach what the people love to hear--saved by grace. Problem is, Jesus NEVER said or taught that, so what they are doing to teaching something that someone else taught--a violation of what Jesus said to do.

Pastors are a waist of time IF you really want to know the truth. They mostly work for the spirit of the church--Satan.
birdman

Charleston, IL

#34 Jul 10, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> Teach all nations WHAT? They are to ONLY teach the same thing that Jesus said and taught, nothing less and nothing more. Problem is, the 'church' has become a business where they need trained pastors to bring in the money. In order to do that, the preachers must only preach and teach what the people love to hear--saved by grace. Problem is, Jesus NEVER said or taught that, so what they are doing to teaching something that someone else taught--a violation of what Jesus said to do.
Pastors are a waist of time IF you really want to know the truth. They mostly work for the spirit of the church--Satan.
ALSE BELIEFS HERE!!
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#35 Jul 11, 2012
birdman wrote:
<quoted text>
ALSE BELIEFS HERE!!
Again, you mouth is full of sin--because you can't prove me wrong you must just call me a liar like they did with Jesus. How sad!
birdman

Charleston, IL

#36 Jul 11, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> Again, you mouth is full of sin--because you can't prove me wrong you must just call me a liar like they did with Jesus. How sad!
I DID NOT CALL YOU A LIAR, I said what you wrote was false beliefs!!!!!!!!!!

You reject N.T. that makes you a FALSE TEACHER!!!!!!!!!
What

Garden City, MO

#37 Feb 8, 2013
SamBee wrote:
<quoted text>
SDA pastor don't work they don't hold down a job?
As an afventist pastor i work 6 days a week and put in 80 hours a week i think you need better understanding of what a pastor does from vusiting members and the sick to prayer meetings and more. Plus many have multiple churches.
Robert Two

Adelaide, Australia

#38 Feb 8, 2013
The BIBLE claim the people say who their MINISTER will be.
That is GOD's way.
The SDA church ius run like BIG BUSINESS.
But GOD wanted no KINGLY POWER.
That is why we RESPECT the old men in the church.
GOD trained MOSES correctly .
1900 A.T.Jones tried to get the GOD's way in but it failed.
BABYLON is how world groups are run from the top.

Karl Marks wanted to get things run by the people but CUBA is the best of that.
Men cannot run things right.
Robert Two

Adelaide, Australia

#39 Feb 8, 2013
djconklin wrote:
Name them.
We had a pastor that was into PHOTOGRAPHY and did weddings on the side even on SABBATH.
I note the church did give him the sack but I do not know what for.
He used church property to develope his films too So he was a bussy boy . Joe Chambers was his name a famer in Western Australia for all that.
Lay Worker

Yea, Australia

#40 Feb 8, 2013
Robert Two wrote:
1900 A.T.Jones tried to get the GOD's way in but it failed.
BABYLON is how world groups are run from the top.
No evidence

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