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birdman

Mattoon, IL

#437 Feb 2, 2013
Pioneer wrote:
<quoted text>
Birdmans dilemma,
Don’t act so happy your demons have humiliated you by exposing that your educated by them only and are dumber than a donut.
Next time you write try not to speak with your mouth full of demonic vomit, it makes it hard to understand just what your trying to say when your first language is from the extreme and total darkness of the underworld you emanate from, that’s why you come across as dumber than a donut.
I’d be embarrassed if I were you knowing that your inner demons constantly expose/reveal to everyone that all that your birdbrain is full of is gray matter,
with not even the simplest intelligence of a mole and that you have no room for growth of any wisdom, knowledge or understanding of the word of God, and with no conviction even possible, you are simply & constantly denying the Holy Spirit’s endeavor to fill that empty void, which he is so willing to do.
But with constant rejection of truth, and with nothing to rely on to supply or enlightenment your brain box you have nothing but a miserable erroneous belief system, your an empty vessel full of darkness and void of all TRUTH.
HERE is the MOUTH of ALF blowing smoke again, nothing decent ever comes from the filthy mouth of Pioneer.

trying always to act like a christian "having a form of godliness, from such turn away"

AMEN!!
birdman

Mattoon, IL

#438 Feb 2, 2013
Pioneer

PIONEERS dilemma,
Don’t act so happy your demons have humiliated you by exposing that your educated by them only and are dumber than a donut.
Next time you write try not to speak with your mouth full of demonic vomit, it makes it hard to understand just what your trying to say when your first language is from the extreme and total darkness of the underworld you emanate from, that’s why you come across as dumber than a donut.
I’d be embarrassed if I were you knowing that your inner demons constantly expose/reveal to everyone that all that your birdbrain is full of is gray matter,
with not even the simplest intelligence of a mole and that you have no room for growth of any wisdom, knowledge or understanding of the word of God, and with no conviction even possible, you are simply & constantly denying the Holy Spirit’s endeavor to fill that empty void, which he is so willing to do.
But with constant rejection of truth, and with nothing to rely on to supply or enlightenment your brain box you have nothing but a miserable erroneous belief system, your an empty vessel full of darkness and void of all TRUTH.

CORRECTED NOW it is the TRUTH!!
Pioneer

United States

#439 Feb 2, 2013
Pioneer wrote:
<quoted text>
Birdmans dilemma,

Don’t act so happy your demons have humiliated you by exposing that your educated by them only and are dumber than a donut.

Next time you write try not to speak with your mouth full of demonic vomit, it makes it hard to understand just what your trying to say when your first language is from the extreme and total darkness of the underworld you emanate from, that’s why you come across as dumber than a donut.

I’d be embarrassed if I were you knowing that your inner demons constantly expose/reveal to everyone that all that your birdbrain is full of is gray matter,

with not even the simplest intelligence of a mole and that you have no room for growth of any wisdom, knowledge or understanding of the word of God, and with no conviction even possible, you are simply & constantly denying the Holy Spirit’s endeavor to fill that empty void, which he is so willing to do.

But with constant rejection of truth, and with nothing to rely on to supply or enlightenment your brain box you have nothing but a miserable erroneous belief system, your an empty vessel full of darkness and void of all TRUTH.
The fact is you have been exposed the fact of your laodicean condition has been revealed hundreds of times by many not just AFL on this forum.

The Evidence has come out of your own mouth you have NO truth within you.

Swallow it. BS BIVINE SLOP that comes from you mouth is useless.

Now go play in the tub with your rubber ducky.
birdman

Mattoon, IL

#440 Feb 2, 2013
Pioneer

The fact is you have been exposed by the fact of your laodicean condition and has been revealed hundreds of times by many not just by me on this forum.
The Evidence has come out of your own mouth you have NO truth within you.
Swallow it. BS BIVINE SLOP that comes from you mouth is useless.
Now go play in the tub with your rubber ducky.

CORRECTED now it is PRESENT TRUTH AMEN!!!!
Robert Two

Australia

#441 Feb 2, 2013
birdman wrote:
<quoted text>
R2 says UNITE in the OLD LEGALISTIC WAY OF SALVATION
Would you explain what you mean ?
What is legaistic about FOLLOWING JESUS.
Pioneer

United States

#442 Feb 2, 2013
Robert Two wrote:
<quoted text> The church admistration refused to BUY the TRUTH tried in the FIRE.
It is the MESSAGE that cannot be SPUED OUT.
So Rt, why do you think that God will go back into a religious body that has been spewed and fix it in the end and make all the unrighteous tares righteous wheat?

Time and Place to be Considered

Regarding the testimonies, nothing is ignored; nothing is cast aside; but time and place must be considered. Nothing must be done untimely. Some matters must be withheld because some persons would make an improper use of the light given. Every jot and tittle is essential and must appear at an opportune time.

But if the sins of the people are passed over by those in responsible positions, His frown will be upon them, and the people of God, as a body, will be held responsible for those sins.

Against these men, persecution raged with relentless fury; yet they ceased not to declare the truth. Different periods in the history of the church have each been marked by the development of some special truth, adapted to the necessities of God's people at that time. Every new truth has made its way against hatred and opposition; those who were blessed with its light were tempted and tried. The Lord gives a special truth for the people in an emergency. Who dare refuse to publish it?

'How is the faithful city become an harlot!' My Father's house is made a house of merchandise, a place whence the divine presence and glory have departed! For this cause there is weakness, and strength is lacking." {8T 250.2}

Of those who boast of their light and yet fail to walk in it Christ says, "But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment than for you. And thou, Capernaum [Seventh-day Adventists, who have had great light], which art exalted unto heaven [in point of privilege], shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works which have been done in thee had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day."--RH Aug. 1, 1893.[THE BRACKETED COMMENTS ARE BY ELLEN WHITE.]{LDE 48.2}

The church is in the Laodicean state.

The presence of God is not in her midst.

--1NL 99 (1898).{LDE 49.1}

" That which was type and symbol to the Jews is reality to us."
birdman

Mattoon, IL

#443 Feb 2, 2013
Robert Two wrote:
<quoted text> Would you explain what you mean ?
What is legaistic about FOLLOWING JESUS.
nothing legalistic about that, but it is the old follow EGW first and then Christ.

Back up Christ by EGW is the wrong way and R2 you know that was the way of the old denomination system, for I have studied it.

I know there are many things wrong in the Denomination today and I see nothing wrong with trying to get things the Biblical way in it from people like me.
Pioneer

United States

#444 Feb 2, 2013
Robert TWO There is no example for God to fix and return to a church body that he has divorced.

" That which was type and symbol to the Jews is reality to us." Upon whom the ends of the world are come.

And the dragon was wroth with the woman,

and went to make war with the remnant of her seed,

which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

These ARE NOT IN THE CHURCH< THE SEED ARE FOLLOWING THEIR MASTERS CALL TO >>> 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Remember the 1st 2nd 3rd Angels Messages was to be repeated to the SDA church Laodicea, the last work was to be FOR the church, the word "FOR" NOT "BY" the church God is NO longer in her midst.

God does not condone re marriage to the same spouse after divorced.
Robert Two

Darwin, Australia

#445 Feb 2, 2013
birdman wrote:
<quoted text>
nothing legalistic about that, but it is the old follow EGW first and then Christ.
Back up Christ by EGW is the wrong way and R2 you know that was the way of the old denomination system, for I have studied it.
I know there are many things wrong in the Denomination today and I see nothing wrong with trying to get things the Biblical way in it from people like me.
You are not taking into account JESUS was fully man. Yes eGW put the talk into being a human. Many take this up the wrong way.
Robert Two

Darwin, Australia

#446 Feb 2, 2013
Pioneer wrote:
Robert TWO There is no example for God to fix and return to a church body that he has divorced.
" That which was type and symbol to the Jews is reality to us." Upon whom the ends of the world are come.
And the dragon was wroth with the woman,
and went to make war with the remnant of her seed,
which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
These ARE NOT IN THE CHURCH< THE SEED ARE FOLLOWING THEIR MASTERS CALL TO >>> 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Remember the 1st 2nd 3rd Angels Messages was to be repeated to the SDA church Laodicea, the last work was to be FOR the church, the word "FOR" NOT "BY" the church God is NO longer in her midst.
God does not condone re marriage to the same spouse after divorced.
OKAY BY ME !
whats the problem ? Are you bored ?

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#447 Feb 2, 2013
This is for you Layworker, and for all those who have been led into believing that Babylon the Great has already fallen even decades ago. I beg of you to take heed to the following. This could be your last chance. If you sincerely and honestly believe in the Spirit of Prophecy, then it is your duty to hearken unto the voice speaking through the following statements:

"A time is coming when the law of God is, in a special sense, to be made void in the land." E.G.White, Review & Herald, Dec.18,1888.

"The sins of the world will have reached unto heaven when the law of God is made void, when the Sabbath of the Lord is trampled in the dust, and men are compelled to accept in its stead an institution of the papacy through the strong hand of the law of the land." E.G. White, Review & Herald, Nov.5,1899.

These two statements make it perfectly clear as to when the sins of Babylon shall have reached unto heaven. It will be when the law of God is made void, when Sunday shall be enforced. Then and then only will the law of God, to all intents and purposes, be made void in the land. And "this national apostasy will be followed by national ruin." Review & Herald, Dec.18,1888.

Then the message of Revelation 18:1-5 will be present truth, not before. Then the loud cry to the world will begin, not before.

This is just another way of saying that at that time this nation will have disconnected herself FULLY from righteousness:

"By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself FULLY from righteousness." Testimonies, Vol.5,451.

To disconnect one's self fully from righteousness is to have one's sins reached unto heaven.

Then and then only will the loud cry will be proclaimed by God's chosen vessels.

These statements are clear.

No one needs be deceived.

The message of Revelation 18:1-5 is still future.

sky
Lay Worker

Myrtleford, Australia

#448 Feb 2, 2013
skyblue888 wrote:
This is for you Layworker, and for all those who have been led into believing that Babylon the Great has already fallen even decades ago. I beg of you to take heed to the following. This could be your last chance. If you sincerely and honestly believe in the Spirit of Prophecy, then it is your duty to hearken unto the voice speaking through the following statements:
"A time is coming when the law of God is, in a special sense, to be made void in the land." E.G.White, Review & Herald, Dec.18,1888.
"The sins of the world will have reached unto heaven when the law of God is made void, when the Sabbath of the Lord is trampled in the dust, and men are compelled to accept in its stead an institution of the papacy through the strong hand of the law of the land." E.G. White, Review & Herald, Nov.5,1899.
These two statements make it perfectly clear as to when the sins of Babylon shall have reached unto heaven. It will be when the law of God is made void, when Sunday shall be enforced. Then and then only will the law of God, to all intents and purposes, be made void in the land. And "this national apostasy will be followed by national ruin." Review & Herald, Dec.18,1888.
Then the message of Revelation 18:1-5 will be present truth, not before. Then the loud cry to the world will begin, not before.
This is just another way of saying that at that time this nation will have disconnected herself FULLY from righteousness:
"By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself FULLY from righteousness." Testimonies, Vol.5,451.
To disconnect one's self fully from righteousness is to have one's sins reached unto heaven.
Then and then only will the loud cry will be proclaimed by God's chosen vessels.
These statements are clear.
No one needs be deceived.
The message of Revelation 18:1-5 is still future.
sky
This is for SKY GRAY who is terribly unfamiliar
in using the Testimonies ...

Pay attention ....

__________"Regarding the testimonies, nothing is ignored; nothing is cast aside; but time and place must be considered._________
Lay Worker

Myrtleford, Australia

#449 Feb 2, 2013
Here is the principle issue for SKYGRAY

__________ Regarding the testimonies, nothing is ignored; nothing is cast aside; but time and place must be considered._________
Lay Worker

Myrtleford, Australia

#450 Feb 2, 2013
Quaint!
Does not 1 Peter 4 : 17 mean anything to SKY in light of what is found in the TESTIMONIES - that the "CLOSING WORK IS FOR THE CHURCH" not of the Church in the sealing time of the 144K
1/ Why would there be a need for this statement in 3T266-267?
2/ Why would then Sr WHite say the 3AMs are to be 'REPEATED' to the CHURCH in RH Oct 31, 1899?
3/ Why would God give the very first call to Laodicea WHEN THE TIMES OF THE NATIONS HAS CLOSED?
4/ Why did the SDA church acknowledge the completion of Luke 21:24 in the 2nd SSQ of 1980?
5/ WHy did Laodicea betray their sacred trust which is tossed aside by Sky as irrelevant
Time for SKY to respond than playing tiddlywinks of what is a serious issue.
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#451 Feb 2, 2013
Robert Two wrote:
<quoted text> The church admistration refused to BUY the TRUTH tried in the FIRE.
It is the MESSAGE that cannot be SPUED OUT.
The "fire" is/are the words of Jesus provided for us to read from Matthew and John. If any words do NOT match, then they are lies!

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#452 Feb 3, 2013
Today, as the 1888 message is being revived and proclaimed among God's professed people for the last time, we can expect, once again, a movement in the United States pushing for a National Sunday Law.

It cannot be overstated that the parable/prophecy of Matt.22, the parable of the wedding garment, predicts that this last call to the bidden ones (SDA) will be rejected again and the bearers of the message character assassinated and this great persecution will spread the light and eventually the church will have sealed her rejection of God's mercy and her probation will have closed, and the bearers of the message and their converts will be forced to turn to another class while the movement for Sunday legistlation will have succeeded in influencing the US government to enact a National Sunday Law and the message which the bidden ones rejected will swell into the loud cry to the world as the sins of Babylon will have reached unto heaven.(Rev.18:1-5)

This message will expose Babylon the Great and many, good and bad, will come out of her to join the ranks of those who will then be proclaiming the last message of mercy to the world before the judgments of God fall in earnest upon Babylon the Great.

During the proclamation of this message, again persecution will spread the light and the multitudes of the earth will find themselves in the valley of decision. Multitudes will join the loud cry movement but when faced with the great final test at the end of the loud cry the majority will return to where they had come from. They will prove to be foolish virgins.

So during the loud cry both good and bad will grow together until the harvest and the harvest is the close of human probation. The great final test will coincide with the judgment of the living. It is at this time that the King comes into the room to examine the guests. This examination will accomplish the final separation between the wheat and the tares, between the wise and the foolish, the good and the evil, and their destiny will be forever fixed.

The wise, otherwise called the 144,000, will then receive the final seal and they will be prepared to enter into the time of Jacob's trouble until they are delivered from their enemies at the time of the fifth plague as the wicked attempt to execute the death decree upon them. As they see the rainbow spanning the heavens and hovering over the true people of God, the wicked will see that they have been deceived and they will fall at the feet of the saints and acknowledged that God has loved them.

Next theyl get up on their feet and turn against the false shepherds. This is the sixth plague or the drying up of the River Euphrates, the drying up of the "waters" upon which Babylon the Great was "sitting".(Rev.17:15 )

So then the sixth plague is the drying up of all support from these all over the world. At this time there is none to help her.(Daniel 11:45) Not only will these withdraw their support from Babylon the Great but they will turn against her and burn her with fire and this is how Babylon the Great will be destroyed and be no more.(Rev.17:16)

There will be strife and bloodshed everywhere and those who somehow escape this plague will be destroyed by the seventh last plague, the great earthquake and the hail.

This is followed by two special resurrections and the coming of Christ in the clouds of Heaven, the general resurrection and the 144,000 are translated without seeing death to join those who have been raised from their graves to go and meet Jesus in the air and thus be with Him forever and ever, Amen!

sky

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#453 Feb 3, 2013
The last message of mercy to the church is simple, just as simple as ABC:

Present your case before God pleading the MERITS of the blood (Rom.3:25) shed for you upon Calvary's cross.

This is our only plea.

Every day, we are to say to our Father which is Heaven, "Lord, I have no merit or goodness within whereby I may claim the grace of the Holy Spirit to enable me to do the works which You prepared before hand that I should walk in them, but I present before You the all-sufficient MERITS of the spotless Lamb of God, the all-sufficient MERITS of the all-atoning blood of a crucified and risen Saviour!"

This prayer will be heard in Heaven. It is the prayer of faith for the MERITS of Christ's INFINITE SACRIFICE are SUFFICIENT to plead before the Father in your behalf in order to obtain the Gift that cannot be excelled, in order to receive the Gift that brings all other blessings in its train, in order to obtain the Gift that is worthy of Christ's greatness and Royalty, the Gift of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Godhead coming with no modified energy but in the fullness of divine light and love and power to subdue all our inherited and cultivated tendencies to evil and to impress Christ's character upon us.

Thus we are made an habitation of God through the Spirit.(Eph.2:22)

Only thus can we become vessels fit for the Master's use. Only thus can the Lord use us to finish the work in the earth and cut it short in righteousness. Rom.9:28.

sky
Robert Two

Australia

#454 Feb 3, 2013
SKY
In the main this is correct.
But for some points that are not in their correct order. This is a great concern to me.
You do not ime the Special resurrection correctly.
I am concerned at what you sat comparing TARES & FOOLISH VIRINS. There is a difference found in COL.
Though the end result is the same.
I see Matthew 25:40 is a problem to the SDA church over the years. To HIRAM EDSON in the barn talks they accepted Matthew 25:40 but General Conference did not agree to this TEXT.
We must get back to BASICS or ALL IS LOST.
Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#456 Feb 3, 2013
I need an explanation as the where the 'Special Resurrection' is found in either Daniel, Revelation or in the prophecies of Jesus Christ. Thanks.
birdman

Mattoon, IL

#457 Feb 3, 2013
Dennis wrote:
I need an explanation as the where the 'Special Resurrection' is found in either Daniel, Revelation or in the prophecies of Jesus Christ. Thanks.
Rev. 1:7 In the Second coming only the Righteous will be resurrected, But it also says those who pierced Him.

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