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“Jesus is coming again!”

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#1 Nov 7, 2012
Hebrews 1:2 "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;"

“Jesus is coming again!”

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#2 Nov 7, 2012
John 5:22 "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:"

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Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#3 Nov 7, 2012
Signs of the Times wrote:
John 5:22 "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:"
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Now read Matthew 28 and see where Jesus told His disciples to teach ONLY what He taught, nothing more or less, and baptize in the name of the Father God, the Holy Spirit or 'Mother' God and the Son of God to which all of them equil the ONE Family of God.
Blackberry

Brampton, Canada

#4 Nov 7, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> Now read Matthew 28 and see where Jesus told His disciples to teach ONLY what He taught, nothing more or less, and baptize in the name of the Father God, the Holy Spirit or 'Mother' God and the Son of God to which all of them equil the ONE Family of God.
That's a Catholic imposition.
Rockroller

Yucaipa, CA

#5 Nov 7, 2012
Blackberry wrote:
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That's a Catholic imposition.
So? What does that have to do with what Matthew wrote after the Holy Spirit caused him to remember exactly what Jesus said?(John 14:26 and 17:17-22)

R U going to argue with this too?
Blackberry

Brampton, Canada

#6 Nov 7, 2012
Rockroller wrote:
<quoted text> So? What does that have to do with what Matthew wrote after the Holy Spirit caused him to remember exactly what Jesus said?(John 14:26 and 17:17-22)
R U going to argue with this too?
Yes, because the verses you quoted are a Catholic imposition.
Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#7 Nov 7, 2012
Blackberry wrote:
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Yes, because the verses you quoted are a Catholic imposition.
So how do you decide what is a Catholic imposition and what is not? Did Jesus say these things to Matthew and His own disciples or did He not? You are trying to have it both ways in saying Jesus didn't say these things simply because the Catholic church uses them to prove their point. He either said them or He didn't. Which is it?
Blackberry

Brampton, Canada

#8 Nov 7, 2012
Dennis wrote:
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So how do you decide what is a Catholic imposition and what is not? Did Jesus say these things to Matthew and His own disciples or did He not? You are trying to have it both ways in saying Jesus didn't say these things simply because the Catholic church uses them to prove their point. He either said them or He didn't. Which is it?
They are a Catholic imposition because the world KNOWS that they are absent from all early manuscripts.
Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#9 Nov 7, 2012
Blackberry wrote:
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They are a Catholic imposition because the world KNOWS that they are absent from all early manuscripts.
NO ONE knows what the earliest manuscripts look like because we have no autographs of these manuscripts, so your statement applies to ALL manuscripts of ALL of the writers in the canon. So which words do you choose to believe? Do you believe only those words that suit your fancy and fulfill your paradigm?
Melchizedek

London, UK

#10 Nov 7, 2012
There is a separation between Jesus and God, and there is also a link. Jesus the man is not God the creator

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#11 Nov 7, 2012
Melchizedek wrote:
There is a separation between Jesus and God, and there is also a link. Jesus the man is not God the creator
Jesus is not created.
Melchizedek

London, UK

#12 Nov 7, 2012
anti-ALF chick wrote:
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Jesus is not created.
Jesus the man, the Soul of Jesus? What are you saying is not created?

Jesus was created, yes.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#13 Nov 7, 2012
Jehovah witnesses and Muslims believe Jesus was a crated being!

I believe Jesus is eternal but I might be wrong. There something going on between Satan and Jesus about sonship with the father. Some war, enemity between them beyond our human capability to understand, that affects us some how spiritually.

It is like Satan wants to be called Son of God and fighting for that title!
Melchizedek

London, UK

#14 Nov 7, 2012
Again which part of Jesus is eternal? His feet? His hair? If it is eternal where is it then?

If you mean the soul, that's an entirely different matter, but then all of our souls are eternal, aren't they.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#16 Nov 8, 2012
Melchizedek wrote:
Again which part of Jesus is eternal? His feet? His hair? If it is eternal where is it then?

If you mean the soul, that's an entirely different matter, but then all of our souls are eternal, aren't they.
Our souls are not eternal.

The soul that sin will surely die!

The Spirit goes back to God and the body to the ground.
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#17 Nov 8, 2012
Dennis wrote:
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NO ONE knows what the earliest manuscripts look like because we have no autographs of these manuscripts, so your statement applies to ALL manuscripts of ALL of the writers in the canon. So which words do you choose to believe
Do you believe only those words that suit your fancy and fulfill your paradigm?
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#18 Nov 8, 2012
martinezjosei wrote:
Jehovah witnesses and Muslims believe Jesus was a crated being!
I believe Jesus is eternal but I might be wrong. There something going on between Satan and Jesus about sonship with the father. Some war, enemity between them beyond our human capability to understand, that affects us some how spiritually.
It is like Satan wants to be called Son of God and fighting for that title!
The Jews also believe that Jesus was merely a man and not the Christ. They are THE Antichrist prophesied to arise in these last days.
Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#19 Nov 8, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
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Do you believe only those words that suit your fancy and fulfill your paradigm?
I believe the words that Jesus told me to believe, through His eyewitness disciples.

So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him,“If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, (32) and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31-32.

Jesus answered him,“If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. (24) Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. (25)“These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. John 14:23-25.

I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. (18) As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. (19) And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth. (20)“I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, John 17:14, 18-20.

Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 2 John v.9.
Better stuff

Brampton, Canada

#20 Nov 8, 2012
Dennis wrote:
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I believe the words that Jesus told me to believe, through His eyewitness disciples.
So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him,“If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, (32) and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31-32.
Jesus answered him,“If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. (24) Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. (25)“These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. John 14:23-25.
I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. (18) As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. (19) And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth. (20)“I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, John 17:14, 18-20.
Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 2 John v.9.
Then you should not have believed the Catholic imposition.
Dennis

Yucaipa, CA

#21 Nov 8, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
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Then you should not have believed the Catholic imposition.
So, does this mean that you believe that the words of Jesus as indicated in the above texts are true?

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