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Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#1 Aug 31, 2012
Besides going to hell for it:

"The people instructed not to lie at all experienced health benefits as a result-to be exact, telling three fewer lies each week resulted in four fewer mental health complaints and three fewer physical health complaints. Lying is thought to trigger the release of stress hormones, increasing heart rate and blood pressure and reducing your white blood cells… leading to all sorts of fun stuff, like tension headaches, lower back pain, and a rapid heartbeat."

http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/why-lying-bad...
Better stuff

Toronto, Canada

#2 Aug 31, 2012
djconklin wrote:
Besides going to hell for it:
"The people instructed not to lie at all experienced health benefits as a result-to be exact, telling three fewer lies each week resulted in four fewer mental health complaints and three fewer physical health complaints. Lying is thought to trigger the release of stress hormones, increasing heart rate and blood pressure and reducing your white blood cells… leading to all sorts of fun stuff, like tension headaches, lower back pain, and a rapid heartbeat."
http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/why-lying-bad...
Shame on you!

Why would a liar like you speak against lies except you were being deceptive in your attempt to palm off the lies of Ellen White for truth.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#3 Aug 31, 2012
69-70. "EGW prophesied the destruction of the denomination she started," (stuff on June 12, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... post #274).

129. "Why do SDA think that salvation is dependent on believing in Ellen White?" (unknown poster, screen name is "theCircle"; http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... post #138 on 6/18/2011).

134. "Why do you seek to cast aspersion on a biblical prophet in order to make EGW look good in her "food for the worms" false prophecy?" (theCircle; July 31, 2011; post 2194 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... ).

138. "According to SDA, Ellen White was more holy than Jesus Christ. She NEVER, I repeat, NEVER sinned." {"theCircle," http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... Post #564; Sept. 11, 2011; repeated as "In short, Ellen White NEVER sinned. Even the wrong she did is photoshopped into a sparkling new image of light, polished and set upon a pedestal that all be come and pay homage." on July 15, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post#70).

171. "In the very bosom of Ellen White, there was deception and a willingness to lie for the sake of fame and fortune." (stuff, aka theCircle, http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post 235, on 2/5/2012).

183. "why do SDA follow a false prophet condemned by Jesus Christ himself" (stuff, aka theCircle, on 3/5/2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post 67).

214. "her now well-known fraulent dreams." (Stuff, aka theCircle, on June 4, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post#175).

225. "Ellen White conceived in her heart to conspire with James TO RULE THE WORLD, I mean, the world of their "little monsters"." (stuff on July 7, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... Post#23).

234. "Obviously, her doctrine (substantiated by HER vision she manufactured to support HER doctrine)..." (the "doctrine in question is the shut-dorr teaching).("Stuff", aka theCircle, on July 21, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post#915).

>"daughters" may prophesy, but be prophets? No!

Contrary to Scripture:

1) Exodus 15:20: Miriam
2) Judges 4 & 5: Deborah
3) 2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chronicles 34:22 Huldah
4) Isaiah 8:3: Isaiah's unnamed wife
5) Nehemiah 6:14: Noadiah
6) Luke 2:36: Anna

The Greek in Acts 21:9 about Philip's daughters is "propheteuo" which means "to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict".
Better stuff

Toronto, Canada

#4 Aug 31, 2012
djconklin wrote:
69-70. "EGW prophesied the destruction of the denomination she started," (stuff on June 12, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... post #274).
129. "Why do SDA think that salvation is dependent on believing in Ellen White?" (unknown poster, screen name is "theCircle"; http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... post #138 on 6/18/2011).
134. "Why do you seek to cast aspersion on a biblical prophet in order to make EGW look good in her "food for the worms" false prophecy?" (theCircle; July 31, 2011; post 2194 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... ).
138. "According to SDA, Ellen White was more holy than Jesus Christ. She NEVER, I repeat, NEVER sinned." {"theCircle," http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... Post #564; Sept. 11, 2011; repeated as "In short, Ellen White NEVER sinned. Even the wrong she did is photoshopped into a sparkling new image of light, polished and set upon a pedestal that all be come and pay homage." on July 15, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post#70).
171. "In the very bosom of Ellen White, there was deception and a willingness to lie for the sake of fame and fortune." (stuff, aka theCircle, http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post 235, on 2/5/2012).
183. "why do SDA follow a false prophet condemned by Jesus Christ himself" (stuff, aka theCircle, on 3/5/2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post 67).
214. "her now well-known fraulent dreams." (Stuff, aka theCircle, on June 4, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post#175).
225. "Ellen White conceived in her heart to conspire with James TO RULE THE WORLD, I mean, the world of their "little monsters"." (stuff on July 7, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... Post#23).
234. "Obviously, her doctrine (substantiated by HER vision she manufactured to support HER doctrine)..." (the "doctrine in question is the shut-dorr teaching).("Stuff", aka theCircle, on July 21, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post#915).
>"daughters" may prophesy, but be prophets? No!
Contrary to Scripture:
1) Exodus 15:20: Miriam
2) Judges 4 & 5: Deborah
3) 2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chronicles 34:22 Huldah
4) Isaiah 8:3: Isaiah's unnamed wife
5) Nehemiah 6:14: Noadiah
6) Luke 2:36: Anna
The Greek in Acts 21:9 about Philip's daughters is "propheteuo" which means "to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict".
No sensible theologian looks at the Greek for a word to understand its intent. The context provides that. Therefore, only a stupid man like yourself would even think to consider the Greek word for "prophesy".

Take for instance, this exclamation by John the Baptist.

John 1, "29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said,“Behold! The LAMB of God who takes away the sin of the world!""

Do you run off to discover the Greek word for LAMB in order to understand the intent of John? No, no sensible theologian does such a stupid thing as you are doing.

CONCLUSION

Philip's daughters preached and it took a real prophet to come and tell the group the word direct from God. Read Acts 21.

******

Answer that, if you can!
Better stuff

Toronto, Canada

#5 Aug 31, 2012
djconklin wrote:
69-70. "EGW prophesied the destruction of the denomination she started," (stuff on June 12, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... post #274).
129. "Why do SDA think that salvation is dependent on believing in Ellen White?" (unknown poster, screen name is "theCircle"; http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... post #138 on 6/18/2011).
134. "Why do you seek to cast aspersion on a biblical prophet in order to make EGW look good in her "food for the worms" false prophecy?" (theCircle; July 31, 2011; post 2194 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... ).
138. "According to SDA, Ellen White was more holy than Jesus Christ. She NEVER, I repeat, NEVER sinned." {"theCircle," http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... Post #564; Sept. 11, 2011; repeated as "In short, Ellen White NEVER sinned. Even the wrong she did is photoshopped into a sparkling new image of light, polished and set upon a pedestal that all be come and pay homage." on July 15, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post#70).
171. "In the very bosom of Ellen White, there was deception and a willingness to lie for the sake of fame and fortune." (stuff, aka theCircle, http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post 235, on 2/5/2012).
183. "why do SDA follow a false prophet condemned by Jesus Christ himself" (stuff, aka theCircle, on 3/5/2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post 67).
214. "her now well-known fraulent dreams." (Stuff, aka theCircle, on June 4, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post#175).
225. "Ellen White conceived in her heart to conspire with James TO RULE THE WORLD, I mean, the world of their "little monsters"." (stuff on July 7, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... Post#23).
234. "Obviously, her doctrine (substantiated by HER vision she manufactured to support HER doctrine)..." (the "doctrine in question is the shut-dorr teaching).("Stuff", aka theCircle, on July 21, 2012 @ http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d... , Post#915).
>"daughters" may prophesy, but be prophets? No!
Contrary to Scripture:
1) Exodus 15:20: Miriam
2) Judges 4 & 5: Deborah
3) 2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chronicles 34:22 Huldah
4) Isaiah 8:3: Isaiah's unnamed wife
5) Nehemiah 6:14: Noadiah
6) Luke 2:36: Anna
The Greek in Acts 21:9 about Philip's daughters is "propheteuo" which means "to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict".
No sensible theologian looks at the Greek for a word to understand its intent. The context provides that. Therefore, only a stupid man like yourself would even think to consider the Greek word for "prophesy".

TAKE FOR INSTANCE, this exclamation by John the Baptist.

John 1, "29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said,“Behold! The LAMB of God who takes away the sin of the world!""

Do you run off to discover the Greek word for LAMB in order to understand the intent of John? No, no sensible theologian does such a stupid thing as you are doing.

CONCLUSION

Philip's daughters preached and it took a real prophet to come and tell the group the word direct from God. Read Acts 21.

*******

Answer that, if you can!

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#6 Sep 1, 2012
>No sensible theologian looks at the Greek for a word to understand its intent.

That's another lie right there. If your claim were true you would have shown concrete examples from reputable, well-known theologians on this verse. You didn't because you lied.
Spamming the threads with a lie doesn't make it true.
Better stuff

Toronto, Canada

#7 Sep 1, 2012
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>Spamming the threads with a lie doesn't make it true.
Why are you running from the question?:)

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#8 Sep 1, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you running from the question?:)
Does it really look like it:

"Six women in scripture are expressly stated as possessing the title of prophetess: five under the old covenant and one, Anna, is mentioned in the gospels. In addition, Philip is mentioned in Acts as having four daughters who prophesied which brings the number of prophetesses to ten. " from http://stronginfaith.org/article.php...

The Greek in Acts 21:9 about Philip's daughters is "propheteuo" which means "to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict".

"They were NEVER prophets."

John Gill ( http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/g... ):

"which did prophesy;
not explain and interpret Scripture, or preach in public assemblies; for these were not allowed women, neither in the Jewish synagogues, nor in Christian assemblies; but they were endowed with a gift of foretelling future events, as was promised such should have in Gospel times,( Joel 2:28 )."

Note that he flatly contradicts your lie.

I can prove and show the proof for what I say. You cannot, for a lie can never be proven to be true.

>Why are you running from the question?

Those who ask this question are running away from the truth and are trying to hide that fact. Watch they use this "argument" over and over on many subjects every time they are losing the argument.
Better stuff

Toronto, Canada

#9 Sep 2, 2012
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>Does it really look like it:
"Six women in scripture are expressly stated as possessing the title of prophetess: five under the old covenant and one, Anna, is mentioned in the gospels. In addition, Philip is mentioned in Acts as having four daughters who prophesied which brings the number of prophetesses to ten. " from http://stronginfaith.org/article.php...
The Greek in Acts 21:9 about Philip's daughters is "propheteuo" which means "to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict".
"They were NEVER prophets."
John Gill ( http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/g... ):
"which did prophesy;
not explain and interpret Scripture, or preach in public assemblies; for these were not allowed women, neither in the Jewish synagogues, nor in Christian assemblies; but they were endowed with a gift of foretelling future events, as was promised such should have in Gospel times,( Joel 2:28 )."
Note that he flatly contradicts your lie.
I can prove and show the proof for what I say. You cannot, for a lie can never be proven to be true.
>Why are you running from the question?
Those who ask this question are running away from the truth and are trying to hide that fact. Watch they use this "argument" over and over on many subjects every time they are losing the argument.
Why are you STILL running from thequestion?:)

No sensible theologian looks at the Greek for a word to understand its intent. The context provides that. Therefore, only a stupid man like yourself would even think to consider the Greek word for "prophesy".

TAKE FOR INSTANCE, this exclamation by John the Baptist.

John 1, "29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said,“Behold! The LAMB of God who takes away the sin of the world!""

Do you run off to discover the Greek word for LAMB in order to understand the intent of John? No, no sensible theologian does such a stupid thing as you are doing.

CONCLUSION

Philip's daughters preached and it took a real prophet to come and tell the group the word direct from God. Read Acts 21.

*****

Answer that, if you can!

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#11 Sep 5, 2012
>No sensible theologian looks at the Greek for a word to understand its intent.

Baloney. Note the lack of proof for the claim.

>Answer that, if you can!

Easy, no evidence that they preached. They were prophets, that's it.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#12 Sep 5, 2012
Note the feeble attempt by stuff to divert your attention from the OP and to do so with another lie--that's a good clue to pay attention to. the critics always try to divert your attention from the truth and onto their chosen lie that they've fallen for.
DANNO

London, UK

#13 Sep 5, 2012
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>Spamming the threads with a lie doesn't make it true.
Conkie

You said you suffered with deepressions and SUICIDAL THOUGHTS. Was that a LIE?

You also told us [SEVERAL TIMES] you instructed LAWYERS to SUE several members. Was that all LIES?

Dan
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Toronto, Canada

#14 Sep 5, 2012
djconklin wrote:
>No sensible theologian looks at the Greek for a word to understand its intent.
Baloney. Note the lack of proof for the claim.
>Answer that, if you can!
Easy, no evidence that they preached. They were prophets, that's it.
You are STILL running from the question.

No sensible theologian looks at the Greek for a word to understand its intent. The context provides that. Therefore, only a stupid man like yourself would even think to consider the Greek word for "prophesy".

TAKE FOR INSTANCE, this exclamation by John the Baptist.

John 1, "29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said,“Behold! The LAMB of God who takes away the sin of the world!""

Do you run off to discover the Greek word for LAMB in order to understand the intent of John? No, no sensible theologian does such a stupid thing as you are doing.

CONCLUSION

Philip's daughters preached and it took a real prophet to come and tell the group the word direct from God. Read Acts 21.

*******

Answer that, if you can!
Better stuff

Toronto, Canada

#15 Sep 5, 2012
djconklin wrote:
Note the feeble attempt by stuff to divert your attention from the OP and to do so with another lie--that's a good clue to pay attention to.
The critics always try to divert your attention from the truth and onto their chosen lie that they've fallen for.
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#16 Sep 5, 2012
djconklin wrote:
Besides going to hell for it:
"The people instructed not to lie at all experienced health benefits as a result-to be exact, telling three fewer lies each week resulted in four fewer mental health complaints and three fewer physical health complaints. Lying is thought to trigger the release of stress hormones, increasing heart rate and blood pressure and reducing your white blood cells… leading to all sorts of fun stuff, like tension headaches, lower back pain, and a rapid heartbeat."
http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/why-lying-bad...
They don't really believe that they are headed to hell for lying DJ.

I have concluded to tell them the truth regardless - they are going to call me a liar anyways.

CB
DANNO

London, UK

#17 Sep 5, 2012
Better stuff wrote:
<quoted text>
The critics always try to divert your attention from the truth and onto their chosen lie that they've fallen for.
Well said and so VERY TRUE!

Your doing a GREAT JOB in exposing the scorpions and vipers and the VIXENS like Grammy, Christine and Diane.

Dan
DANNO

London, UK

#18 Sep 5, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
<quoted text>
They don't really believe that they are headed to hell for lying DJ.
I have concluded to tell them the truth regardless - they are going to call me a liar anyways.
CB
Plz answer YES or NO if the HOLY Spirit allos you to.

Did JESUS death do away with the JEWISH Holy 4th Comamndment for MANkind?

Does the holy 4th Commandment apply to you?

Is the Holy 4th Commandment still HOLY today for Christians?

REFUSING to TESTIFY will prove that the HOLY SPIRIT is NOT within you and directing you. Matt 10: 32-33

Dan
Crazy Baptist

Hopkins, SC

#19 Sep 5, 2012
DANNO wrote:
<quoted text>
Plz answer YES or NO if the HOLY Spirit allos you to.
Did JESUS death do away with the JEWISH Holy 4th Comamndment for MANkind?
Does the holy 4th Commandment apply to you?
Is the Holy 4th Commandment still HOLY today for Christians?
REFUSING to TESTIFY will prove that the HOLY SPIRIT is NOT within you and directing you. Matt 10: 32-33
Dan
Yes or No
DANNO

London, UK

#20 Sep 6, 2012
djconklin wrote:
Besides going to hell for it:
"The people instructed not to lie at all experienced health benefits as a result-to be exact, telling three fewer lies each week resulted in four fewer mental health complaints and three fewer physical health complaints. Lying is thought to trigger the release of stress hormones, increasing heart rate and blood pressure and reducing your white blood cells… leading to all sorts of fun stuff, like tension headaches, lower back pain, and a rapid heartbeat."
http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/why-lying-bad...
Conk

Why is it each time I post some of your PAST LIES & HYPOCRASY you dissapear?

Dan
DANNO

London, UK

#21 Sep 6, 2012
Crazy Baptist wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes or No
So, now you have taken to fooling around with spiritual questions that are put to you and your beliefs/faith??

Do you REJECT the 4th Holy Commandment of the DECALOGUE?

Dan

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