Ellen White and people of color

Ellen White and people of color

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Jonebgood

Abbotsford, Canada

#1 Apr 10, 2010
Ellen White had several comments which appear to be at best racist. She counselled against " intermarriage between the white and colored race", she also taught that "white men must be chosen as leaders". She seemed confused when she wrote "No one is capable of clearly defining the proper position of the colored people". Her comment that "colored people should not urge they be placed on equality with white people". Guess she might not have supported a vote for those "colored people". Her most blatant and totally unbiblical comment was that "since the flood there has been an amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species and certain species of men. How contrary to the words of Jesus who taught us that in Him there is no distinction of race. How contrary to the Genesis account that teaches that animals were made according to thier kind and that man was made in the image of God. How can one sweep these teachings under the rug?
Amish

Plattsburg, MO

#2 Apr 10, 2010
Since the flood there have been numerous race mixing as we call it today and speciation of the animals.

The most important question is, do you have the faith of Jesus, or another Jesus.

"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name. Here is the patience of >>>the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."<<< (Revelation 14:9-12)
Jonebgood

Abbotsford, Canada

#3 Apr 11, 2010
Yes praise God I have faith IN Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Your respnse completely avoids the issue. The faith of Jesus is the teachings of Jesus and His commandments are that we love God with all our heart and our fellow man as ourselves.
Jonebgood

Abbotsford, Canada

#4 Apr 11, 2010
You Amish have faith in Ellen White but the spirit that guided her was not the spirit of prophecy but another spirit.
David Koot

San Francisco, CA

#5 Apr 11, 2010
Jonebgood wrote:
You Amish have faith in Ellen White but the spirit that guided her was not the spirit of prophecy but another spirit.
Then your position station is skewed from the git-go, you are not giving evidence of objectivity. You come to the inquiry with an agenda.
ME INHIM

Nottingham, UK

#6 Apr 11, 2010
Jonebgood wrote:
Ellen White had several comments which appear to be at best racist. She counselled against " intermarriage between the white and colored race", she also taught that "white men must be chosen as leaders". She seemed confused when she wrote "No one is capable of clearly defining the proper position of the colored people". Her comment that "colored people should not urge they be placed on equality with white people". Guess she might not have supported a vote for those "colored people". Her most blatant and totally unbiblical comment was that "since the flood there has been an amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species and certain species of men. How contrary to the words of Jesus who taught us that in Him there is no distinction of race. How contrary to the Genesis account that teaches that animals were made according to thier kind and that man was made in the image of God. How can one sweep these teachings under the rug?
JbG

You forgot to add this one.!

"God CANNOT TAKE THE SLAVE TO HEAVEN. He lets HIM BE AS THOUGH HE HAD NOT BEEN"(GC 193 , l958 ed.; EW 276)
ME INHIM

Nottingham, UK

#7 Apr 11, 2010
Jonebgood wrote:
You Amish have faith in Ellen White but the spirit that guided her was not the spirit of prophecy but another spirit.
Correct!!

EGW has made a stupid jesus for these guys!! Her jesus has BELLS ON and NEEDS SATAN TO FINISH HIS FINAL ATONEMENT!! WITHOUT SATAN THEIR STUPID jesus CANNOT COMPLETE THE FINAL ATONEMENT TO SAVE THE SDA's!!! THEY BETTER PRAY TO SATAN TO STAY ALIVE FOR WHEN THEIR STUPID jesus ARRIVES!! IF SATAN CHOOSES TO DESTROY HIMSELF THERES NO SALVATION FOR THEM!! THEIR STUPID jesus NEEDS TO COME QUICK AND LAY THIER SINS ON HIS HEAD FOR THE FINAL ATONEMENT TO BE FULLY COMPLETED!! THIS IS SOMETHING SDA's DONT LIKE TO ADMIT!!

Dan
ME INHIM

Nottingham, UK

#8 Apr 11, 2010
Read more here about the jesus EGW made for the SDA's

link> http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-d...
ME INHIM

Nottingham, UK

#9 Apr 11, 2010
CAN GOD TAKE THE SLAVE TO HEAVEN?

BIBLE YES "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus" .(Gal 3 :28 KJV).

BIBLE YES "Each of us is apart of the one body of Christ. Some of us are Jews, some are Gentiles, some are slaves and some are free. But the Holy Spirit has fitted us all together into one body".(1 Cor.12: 13 LB)

BIBLE YES " Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free" (Eph .6 : 8 KJ V ).

EGW NO "God CANNOT TAKE THE SLAVE TO HEAVEN. He lets him be as though he had not been"(GC 193 , l958 ed.; EW 276)
Amish

Plattsburg, MO

#10 Apr 11, 2010
Jonebgood wrote:
Yes praise God I have faith IN Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Your respnse completely avoids the issue. The faith of Jesus is the teachings of Jesus and His commandments are that we love God with all our heart and our fellow man as ourselves.
If you love God you keep the first four commandments including God's Sabbath and having no other gods, keeping different day of rest.

Nothing changed in the law as found also in the OT.

Dt.6:5 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.
ME INHIM

Nottingham, UK

#11 Apr 11, 2010
Amish wrote:
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If you love God you keep the first four commandments including God's Sabbath and having no other gods, keeping different day of rest.
Nothing changed in the law as found also in the OT.
Dt.6:5 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.
Bro Amish

Your de-railing the topic.

This thread is about EGW being racist! and NOT about anything else.

What made EGW be so racist is my question to you guys? And why havent her followers/lovers NOT got offended by her remarks/views?

All posters please stay on track.

Thank you.

Dan
Amish

Plattsburg, MO

#12 Apr 11, 2010
ME INHIM wrote:
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Bro Amish
Your de-railing the topic.
This thread is about EGW being racist!
Thank you.
Dan
That was already addressed and debunked. Can you follow?
ME INHIM

Nottingham, UK

#13 Apr 11, 2010
Amish wrote:
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That was already addressed and debunked. Can you follow?
Well then start another thread on a differnt topic please!

I'm NOT finished and possibly many others are not finished on this topic on "color" not yet anyways!

Dan
Harmish

Darlinghurst, Australia

#14 Apr 11, 2010
Amish wrote:
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That was already addressed and debunked. Can you follow?
Do you believe that everything EGW taught was correct?
ME INHIM

Nottingham, UK

#15 Apr 11, 2010
Harmish wrote:
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Do you believe that everything EGW taught was correct?
Or was from the spirit of GOD???
Yakov

Aptos, CA

#16 Apr 11, 2010
I would also like to hear from Amish about this question. Do you believe everything Ellen wrote cause she say the saved and redeemed will be sinning no more and will be perfect, she also say that if you still sinning, you are not saved. Do you believe she was right on this? Do you believe you are saved today, or only in the future if you are able to stop sinning? Cause Ellen taught this and she never taught any wrong no?
ME INHIM

Nottingham, UK

#17 Apr 11, 2010
Amish wrote:
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If you love God you keep the first four commandments including God's Sabbath and having no other gods, keeping different day of rest.
Nothing changed in the law as found also in the OT.
Dt.6:5 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.
Amish.

Can you explain what EGW means by this statement plz?

"The Testimonies are of the Spirit of God, or of the devil. Testimonies 4, p. 230
ME INHIM

Nottingham, UK

#18 Apr 11, 2010
Why did EGW say theres NO salvation for the slaves? Was it because the white folks bought slaves for money like they did furniture?

Why NO SALVATION FOR THE SLAVES? WHY? CAN THE EGW LOVERS TELL ME WHY? PLZ
Jonebgood

Abbotsford, Canada

#19 Apr 11, 2010
I guess what troubles me most as a former SDA is the lengths that people go to defend EGW. The Mormons had similiar issues with people of color and as with polygamy, another prophet simply stated that was for that time and changed the thier ideas on doctrine. I have to defend no one not Joesph Smith, not Ellen White, or any tv evangelist for that matter, because I stand on the Rock who is Jesus Christ and He needs no defense. I hope that God will remove the scales from your eyes, as He did mine. I had to confront these errors from the "inspired pen", I hope and pray you have the courage to do the same.
Harmish

Darlinghurst, Australia

#20 Apr 11, 2010
ME INHIM wrote:
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Amish.
Can you explain what EGW means by this statement plz?
"The Testimonies are of the Spirit of God, or of the devil. Testimonies 4, p. 230
Why? Who cares? I only accept what bible wrote, not EGW false teacher.

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