Coming out of the cult of the Jesuit ...

Coming out of the cult of the Jesuit mind warp

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messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#1 Jan 20, 2010
"Control of Mind Over Mind
There is, however, a form of mind cure that is one of the most effective agencies for evil. Through this so-called science, one mind is brought under the control of another so that the individuality of the weaker is merged in that of the stronger mind. One person acts out the will of another. Thus it is claimed that the tenor of the thoughts may be changed, that health-giving impulses may be imparted, and patients may be enabled to resist and overcome disease.

This method of cure has been employed by persons who were ignorant of its real nature and tendency, and who believed it to be a means of benefit to the sick. But the so-called science is based upon false principles. It is foreign to the nature and spirit of Christ. It does not lead to Him who is life and salvation. The one who attracts minds to Himself leads them to separate from the true Source of their strength.

It is not God's purpose that any human being should yield his mind and will to the control of another, becoming a passive instrument in his hands. No one is to merge his individuality in that of another. He is not to look to any human being as the source of healing. His dependence must be in God. In the dignity of his God-given manhood he is to be controlled by God Himself, not by any human intelligence.

God desires to bring men into direct relation with Himself. In all His dealings with human beings He recognizes the principle of personal responsibility. He seeks to encourage a sense of personal dependence and to impress the need of personal guidance. He desires to bring the human into association with the divine, that men may be transformed into the divine likeness. Satan works to thwart this purpose. He seeks to encourage dependence upon men. When minds are

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turned away from God, the tempter can bring them under his rule. He can control humanity.
The theory of mind controlling mind was originated by Satan, to introduce himself as the chief worker, to put human philosophy where divine philosophy should be. Of all the errors that are finding acceptance among professedly Christian people, none is a more dangerous deception, none more certain to separate man from God, than is this. Innocent though it may appear, if exercised upon patients it will tend to their destruction, not to their restoration. It opens a door through which Satan will enter to take possession both of the mind that is given up to be controlled by another, and of the mind that controls.

Fearful is the power thus given to evil-minded men and women. What opportunities it affords to those who live by taking advantage of other's weaknesses or follies! How many, through control of minds feeble or diseased, will find a means of gratifying lustful passion or greed of gain!

There is something better for us to engage in than the control of humanity by humanity. The physician should educate the people to look from the human to the divine. Instead of teaching the sick to depend upon human beings for the cure of soul and body, he should direct them to the One who can save to the uttermost all who come unto Him. He who made man's mind knows what the mind needs. God alone is the One who can heal. Those whose minds and bodies are

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diseased are to behold in Christ the restorer. "Because I live, He says, "ye shall live also." John 14:19. This is the life we are to present to the sick, telling them that if they have faith in Christ as the restorer, if they co-operate with Him, obeying the laws of health, and striving to perfect holiness in His fear, He will impart to them His life. When we present Christ to them in this way, we are imparting a power, a strength, that is of value; for it comes from above. This is the true science of healing for body and soul."
http://www.egwtext.whiteestate.org/mh/mh18.ht...
BJ Simpson

United States

#2 Jan 20, 2010
Didn't you get the memo? Ellen White was under satans control!

False prophet through and through.

Would you like a little proof of her prediction that failed?

Many SDA's here will not comprehend the following:
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the SDA community for 166 years, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
Diane

Santa Ysabel, CA

#3 Jan 20, 2010
Simpson, will you please continue. Thanks.
BJ Simpson

United States

#4 Jan 20, 2010
"At the conference a very solemn vision was given me. I saw that some of those present would be food for worms, some subjects for the seven last plagues, and some would be translated to heaven at the second coming of Christ, without seeing death." {Ellen G. White, 2SG p.208} http://tinyurl.com/false-prophetess

Who among that group got translated to heaven without seeing death??

Please document!

Will there be a special resurrection so that some can suffer the seven last plagues?

Please show from scripture!

The only thing EGW got correct is they all turned into food for worms!
The other two claims are bogus.

She was a prophetess from satan.
And why do SDA's say she passed prophetic tests, then we hear other SDA's say she is not a prophet? Is your religion really that schizophrenic?
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#5 Jan 20, 2010
BJ Simpson wrote:
Didn't you get the memo? Ellen White was under satans control!
False prophet through and through.
Would you like a little proof of her prediction that failed?
Many SDA's here will not comprehend the following:
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the SDA community for 166 years, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
Keep comin back Bart and invite all your other cartoon characters JESUS loves you and so do SDA'S
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#6 Jan 20, 2010
BJ Simpson wrote:
Didn't you get the memo? Ellen White was under satans control!
False prophet through and through.
Would you like a little proof of her prediction that failed?
Many SDA's here will not comprehend the following:
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the SDA community for 166 years, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
A mind controlled by Bart Simpson has gotta be under some kind of torment.
BJ Simpson

United States

#7 Jan 20, 2010
messenger4truth wrote:
<quoted text>
A mind controlled by Bart Simpson has gotta be under some kind of torment.
You bear false witness against me.

I thought you were a 10 commandment pusher!

Is lying now okay with you?

Oh that's right, the fourth commandment is the only commandment that SDA's really promote. LOL

You are wicked, and we know that God does not hear the prayers of the wicked. However, it is okay with me that you deceive yourself. That has been your destiny according to 1 Peter 2:8:

"A stone that causes men to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall." They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.

I know you do not take scripture seriously as it has Jesus' voice in it. You do not hear His voice if you teach EGW was from God or that Jesus took sin to heaven in His blood.

Enjoy your eternal hot destiny. Don't say nobody warned ya! LOL
Terrilyn

United States

#8 Jan 20, 2010
BJ SImpson...

There is no one who is more wicked than the one who falsely accuses one who was a messenger from God.

IT may be very true and fact that not all that EGW was accused of writting was from her pen, and there has been many a forged message, under her name that was from others in control, who really are the wicked and wolves in sheeps clothing. When a person knows her style and the way she writes, you can tell when things are not as they appear nor from her.

But to say that one who wrote STEPS TO LIFE about the Life of Jesus, once you have read that to say she was of the Devil, only shows anyone who has read that one book alone would say you are of the DEVIL and The father of lies, is your father, and he was a murderer from the beginning and so are you.

I do nto put her writings above the Bible and would never say they are even equal to the Bible. We are to be a people of the Bible and the Bible alone but there are many an SDA who believes totally in her and one needs to be able to show them from her writings jsut what she said about the beloved SDA church in which they totally support as the remnant of God when the Divine presence is no longer in that Church, these things need to be shared with a people who are the "lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL" the Laodicean people who are asleep and about to be destroyed.

Get it!
messnger4truth

Reno, NV

#9 Jan 21, 2010
The poster whose mind is controlled by the cartoon character Bart Simpson and Jesuit doctrine wrote;

"Didn't you get the memo? Ellen White was under satans control!"

Ellen White wrote;
The physician should educate the people to look from the human to the divine. Instead of teaching the sick to depend upon human beings for the cure of soul and body, he should direct them to the One who can save to the uttermost all who come unto Him. He who made man's mind knows what the mind needs. God alone is the One who can heal. Those whose minds and bodies are diseased are to behold in Christ the restorer."

Those who attack the messenger usually can't handle the message that points to God for healing that would be satan's plan of obstruction.

Ellen saw ya comin and so do we who are SDA's.

Keep comin back JESUS loves you and so d SDA's.
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#10 Jan 21, 2010
"On May 12, Father Miller announced that he was leaving the Jesuits and the priesthood. "I wanted to write and let you know that I have decided to leave the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) and the priesthood. I leave in excellent standing," Miller told parishioners at Saint Ignatius in a letter published in the parish bulletin. "After many months of personal prayer and discernment, meetings with my spiritual director and conversations with my Provincial, God is leading me out of the Jesuits and the priesthood. I am in deep peace with this decision."

http://www.sffaith.com/ed/articles/2002/1002m...
birdman

Bettendorf, IA

#11 Jan 21, 2010
Terrilyn you said something I agree 100% with.

The writings were never part of the Bible, true.

The writings are not par to the Bible. true

I admit alfs people does have some truth.

I was wrong when I said they didnt.
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#12 Jan 21, 2010


There are some who come out of this satanic cult.
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#14 Jan 23, 2010
You may have to go through some serious psychotic deprogramming epsiodes.
&fe ature=related

But Jesus does reach out to the uttermost.

Heb. 7v25
Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#15 Jan 23, 2010
"God desires to bring men into direct relation with Himself. In all His dealings with human beings He recognizes the principle of personal responsibility. He seeks to encourage a sense of personal dependence and to impress the need of personal guidance. He desires to bring the human into association with the divine, that men may be transformed into the divine likeness. Satan works to thwart this purpose. He seeks to encourage dependence upon men. When minds are

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turned away from God, the tempter can bring them under his rule. He can control humanity."
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#16 Jan 26, 2010
"We should pray that God will shed light into the darkened mind and comfort the sorrowful heart. But God answers prayer for those who place themselves in the channel of His blessings. While we offer prayer for these sorrowful ones, we should encourage them to try to help those more needy than themselves. The darkness will be dispelled from their own hearts as they try to help others. As we seek to comfort others with the comfort wherewith we are comforted, the blessing comes back to us."
http://www.egwtext.whiteestate.org/mh/mh18.ht...
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#17 Jan 26, 2010
messenger4truth wrote:
"We should pray that God will shed light into the darkened mind and comfort the sorrowful heart. But God answers prayer for those who place themselves in the channel of His blessings. While we offer prayer for these sorrowful ones, we should encourage them to try to help those more needy than themselves. The darkness will be dispelled from their own hearts as they try to help others. As we seek to comfort others with the comfort wherewith we are comforted, the blessing comes back to us."
http://www.egwtext.whiteestate.org/mh/mh18.ht...
When I come into these forums I know I will be blessed because I get to read and study more of God's word. It helps shapren my faith. Yet it is sad to see others in such an awful predictament of resistence to some very plain "thus saith the Lord".

I always trust that God's word will prevail, despite my own thoughts regarding the intractability of others.

Jesus said;
MAT 19V26
But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Hebrews 7v25
Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#18 Jan 28, 2010
This is what happens to those who hang out to long in the cult of the Jesuit mind warp.

&fe ature=related
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#19 Jan 28, 2010
They supposedly take new testament positions while quoting from the old testament when it suits their
agenda of "disambiguity"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mask

A mask is an article normally worn on the face, typically for protection, concealment, performance, or amusement. Masks have been used since antiquity for both ceremonial and practical purposes. They are usually worn on the face, although they may also be positioned for effect elsewhere on the wearer's body, so in parts of Australia giant totem masks cover the body, whilst Inuit women use finger masks during storytelling and dancing.[1]

The claim others twist the scriptures while they use hafl quotes and twist the intent to serve their own design, not God's.

It's their mask. They aren't here to build up any in the faith but to tare down others and show forth their own faith in the evil works of attacking the scriptures themselves.

Jesus told us a tree is known by it's fruit.
Lay Worker

United States

#20 Jan 28, 2010
Since m4? the other m4? here - maybe m4? can provide a vitriolic effort to explain why he defends the 27 FB's which are riddled with Jesuit influences since 1980...

Like the Dual Atonement is denied, the major false doctrines are the two Calvinistic falsehoods—that Christians cannot stop sinning, even by the power of God, and that Christ came to this earth in the human nature of Adam before his fall. If these falsehoods were true, then Christ was therefore not a true example to us, and making teh Anglican Divine Melvill's view as being superior to the church's revious official statements of faith... and then there is the kicker, the central teaching of the LH is revered, the Triune Trinity, and so why do we have the words from the Nicene Creed finding its way into the Adventist church 27FB's for the first time ...

So what will m4? say ?

If he denies,- well, he has a massive problem,- he is supporting the Jesuit mind warp he is trying to dispel and that goes to the core of his papal theological reasoning that he is stiffly denying yet supporting. Thats perfection of NLP being imposed upon the readers by both m4?'s
messenger4truth

Reno, NV

#21 Jan 28, 2010
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument toward the person" or "argument against the person") is an argument which links the validity of a premise to an irrelevant characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise. In other words, it is an argument which attacks the individual rather than the argument that individual is presenting.[1]
The ad hominem argument is not a fallacy despite there being fallacious instances of the argument.[2] Fallacious instances of the ad hominem argument are presented below.

Down goes Ellen

More Deranged Ellen White

More of Crazy Ellen

Wacko White

Etc etc..

The devil doesn't want you to learn about Ellen White.

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