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The Origins Of Three Faiths -- Courant.com

There are 64 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Aug 16, 2007, titled The Origins Of Three Faiths -- Courant.com. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Church of Scientology Scientology is based on the writings of science fiction author L. Ron Hubbard, who died in 1986.

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James Lightfield

Salfordville, PA

#1 Aug 19, 2007
To describe L Ron Hubbard as a "science fiction" writer is to overlook by far the extraordinary scope of his professional expertise that included being a member of the prestigious New York Explorer's Club; being one the first licensed air pilots in the US and writing articles on piloting; conducting the first mineralogical study of Puerto Rico (when he was in his 20's); charting the Alaskan sea coast for the US Navy -- the list goes on and on.

Visit http://www.lronhubbard.org for a partial list of his accomplishments.

Yes, Hubbard was a science fiction writer. He also wrote westerns, mysteries and screen plays for Hollywood. This was how he financed his research into societal problems and the mind. This research was conducted over more than 20 years (1930-1950) and included extensive travels throughout the world studying diverse cultures.

Lest it be overlooked, science-fiction is a fictional account that includes not-yet-developed scientific breakthroughs.

The best sci-fi written during Sci-Fi Golden Age (when Hubbard wrote) was written by scientists or those who had strong science backgrounds.

A classic example is in Hubbard's Battlefield Earth novel. It includes no less than 7 separate scientific innovations, including a key element of the plot -- the micro-mini cameras that did not exist when he wrote the book in the 1980's. Now it is common. Hubbard's book also contains details of a new type of surgical procedure and the theory bonding and laminating diverse types of metals.

What does this mean to the average person? It means that Hubbard's research resulted in effective solutions that anyone can learn and use to better understand and resolve problems in life.

Many of these "how-to" tools are detailed at http://www.ScientologyHandbook.org

Finally, the common sense moral guide that Hubbard wrote (60 million copies distributed)that has been praised by religious, political and social leaders has just had gorgeous Public Service Announcements produced.

See these at: http://www.TWTH.org

James Lightfield
Mad Max

Coorparoo, Australia

#2 Aug 19, 2007
Here is a link to the "other" side of L.R. Hubbard that they don`t tell you about.Be aware of the "illusion" he created.

http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/bfm/bfm...

There are two wildly conflicting versions of the life story of L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of the Church of Scientology, The first, promoted by the Church, is that he was an unfailingly honest, generous humanitarian whose profound insights have transformed the world. The second, propounded in its fullest form in Bare-Faced Messiah by Russell Miller, is that he was a pathological liar, a fraud consumed by greed and paranoia who sucked literally millions of people into an extraordinary fantasy world.

“Proud SP since 2003”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#3 Aug 19, 2007
And as we all know, the second version is the true Hubbard.

Hubbard was a failure in the military. He was a complete failure academically. He also failed miserably in his personal life.
He discovered nothing of any substance, but was quite skillfull at plagarizing the work of others.
The Hubbard described by Scientology is completely and utterly fabricated.
correcting media lies

Ellington, CT

#4 Aug 19, 2007
Religious fanaticism that hurts people must be eliminated. Fanaticism can exist in any religion. When a religious belief says "kill people", "stone adulterers", "kill gays", "bomb a clinic", "let's take poison" it's no longer a valid belief.

“Proud SP since 2003”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#5 Aug 19, 2007
[QUOTE Fanaticism can exist in any religion.[/QUOTE]

True but Scientology isn't a religion, it's a big fat global scam.
Mad Max

Coorparoo, Australia

#6 Aug 19, 2007
L.R.Hubbard....by someone who knew him personally..........

JIM DINCALCI:
"He saw everyone suspiciously and assumed everyone was intentionally attacking him. Governments were attacking him, and then everyone around, who made a mistake, were attacking him, and the only thing he could do would be to attack back."

In 1973 a French court started proceedings against Hubbard for fraud. He had left his ship, which was berthed in Morocco and went to live in hiding in New York, where he was looked after by Jim Dincalci.

To turn the tables on his enemies he devised a bizarre plan called 'Snow White'. Its stated aim was to correct false reports about Scientology. It led to Scientology members infiltrating government departments. Hubbard even issued a reading list for learning the black arts of espionage.
James Lightfield

Salfordville, PA

#7 Aug 19, 2007
To place Dincalci's statement in context, read the affidavit of a former executive for the Church of Scientology who quit and was paid by psychiatric front groups to attack Scientology.

Her affidavit documents how lies are manufactured to discredit Scientology by a small group of detractors.

http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/Aznaran.htm

We Americans should be very familiar with the manufacturing of lies and distorting information to sell the agenda of powerful (and self-serving) interests.

Weapons of mass destruction ring a bell?
James Lightfield

Salfordville, PA

#8 Aug 19, 2007
Scientology

World renowned religious scholars and theologians individually studied Scientology. These experts include a Vatican advisor on non-Catholic religions and the leader of Japan’s oldest religion. Their conclusion: Scientology is a religion in every aspect.

Their findings are posted on:
http://www.bonafidescientology.org/Append/07/...

Quite important, in April 2007, the European Court of Human Rights passed a landmark decision in favor of the Church of Scientology and against the Russian government. This decision, in fact, protects all religions. Insofar as Scientology is all-denominational, the Court’s findings serve Scientologists who are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hinduim, etc.

Details of the European Court of Human Rights findings in support of the Church of Scientology:
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_...

Insofar as religious tolerance is a fundamental part of human rights, it is worth noting that for more than a decade the Church of Scientology has funded a massive international campaign to bring public awareness (and use) of the United Nations’ Declaration of Human Rights (1948) that was agreed to (but promptly forgotten). It was written to prevent a repeat of the horrors of World War 2, including the murder of 6 million Jews.

On the United Nations website it posts the following (nice words, however, it is Scientology that took it upon itself to revitalize an all but forgotten incredibly important document).

From the UN website
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

“On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the full text of which appears in the following pages. Following this historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to publicize the text of the Declaration and “to cause it to be disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and other educational institutions, without distinction based on the political status of countries or territories.”

Scientology produced Public Service Announcements for each of the human rights. These PSAs received a standing ovation in the UN, and the DVD collection of them is sold in the United Nations bookstore.

To see these PSAs:
http://www.youthforhumanrights.org
Scooter-girl

Portland, OR

#9 Aug 19, 2007
"Somebody some day will say "this is illegal." By then be sure the orgs [Scientology organizations] say what is legal or not."

- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 4 January 1966, "LRH Relationship to Orgs"

"If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace."

- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 15 August 1960, Dept. of Govt. Affairs

"The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win. The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly."

- L. Ron Hubbard, A MANUAL ON THE DISSEMINATION OF MATERIAL, 1955

"They smell of all the baths they didn't take. The trouble with China is, there are too many chinks here."

- L. Ron Hubbard's diary, 1928.(Jon Atack, A PIECE OF BLUE SKY: SCIENTOLOGY, DIANETICS AND L. RON HUBBARD EXPOSED. Lyle Stuart/Carol Publishing Group 1990)

"The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the Tone Scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered."

- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 170

"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them."

- L. Ron Hubbard, "Off the Time Track," lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418

I'd like to start a religion. That's where the money is."

- L. Ron Hubbard to Lloyd Eshbach, in 1949; quoted by Eshbach in OVER MY SHOULDER: REFLECTIONS ON A SCIENCE FICTION ERA, Donald M. Grant Publisher. 1983

http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/5.htm
Diogenes

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Aug 19, 2007
The Courant’s terse description of Scientology is laudably neutral. Yet, even so, there's that ever-presnet reference, "Science-fiction writer" In fact Hubbard wrote a lot less sci-fi than adventure, Westerns and mysteries. He wrote in all genres to finance bed and board during his early researchesinto the human mind.
that point aside, after years of watching media pre-judge Scientology, I automatically wonder,“Is there a snide article hidden somewhere in the Courant that I've missed?” My fellow journalists have made me mistust our education that journalism was to be objective, verifiable, fact-checked, dispassionate and -- above all -- even-handed.
In other coverage, I constantly marvel that these ideals of objective coverage get quietly chloroformed when media cover Scientology.
Never mind that its churches and secular groups have helped a million people through (purely physical, non-religious) detox program that helps people stay free of drug urges.
Never mind that its volunteer ministers take weeks away from jobs and family to unselfishly help victims of hurricanes, riots, tsunamis, flood and earthquakes.
Never mind that Way to Happiness campaigns teach youth (and criminals) about honesty, about telling the truth, giving fair value, working hard, learning one’s trade or profession well, and honoring parents.
Never mind that Scientologists have gone into some of Mexico’s worst hell-hole prisons and helped reform inmates.
Naah! Skip all that. They're just Scientologists! Not real people like us and our friends.
Examine yourselves, reporters. Then go back and reread your many (but dusty) codes of professional ethics.
How would your Ethics of Journalism prof grade your coverage of Scientology?
It’s good to see exceptions.

“Proud SP since 2003”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#11 Aug 19, 2007
Diogenes wrote:
The Courant’s terse description of Scientology is laudably neutral. Yet, even so, there's that ever-presnet reference, "Science-fiction writer" In fact Hubbard wrote a lot less sci-fi than adventure, Westerns and mysteries. He wrote in all genres to finance bed and board during his early researchesinto the human mind.
that point aside, after years of watching media pre-judge Scientology, I automatically wonder,“Is there a snide article hidden somewhere in the Courant that I've missed?” My fellow journalists have made me mistust our education that journalism was to be objective, verifiable, fact-checked, dispassionate and -- above all -- even-handed.
In other coverage, I constantly marvel that these ideals of objective coverage get quietly chloroformed when media cover Scientology.
Never mind that its churches and secular groups have helped a million people through (purely physical, non-religious) detox program that helps people stay free of drug urges.
Never mind that its volunteer ministers take weeks away from jobs and family to unselfishly help victims of hurricanes, riots, tsunamis, flood and earthquakes.
Never mind that Way to Happiness campaigns teach youth (and criminals) about honesty, about telling the truth, giving fair value, working hard, learning one’s trade or profession well, and honoring parents.
Never mind that Scientologists have gone into some of Mexico’s worst hell-hole prisons and helped reform inmates.
Naah! Skip all that. They're just Scientologists! Not real people like us and our friends.
Examine yourselves, reporters. Then go back and reread your many (but dusty) codes of professional ethics.
How would your Ethics of Journalism prof grade your coverage of Scientology?
It’s good to see exceptions.
Never mind the fact that countless Scientologists have lost their friends, family and life savings to this despicable cult. Religion? Hardly, you are a scam, no more no less.
Hubbard's "research"? What a laugh! The man was a complete failure academically; Scientology has tried to rewrite history and portray Hubbard as an altruistic humanitarian.
"Ministers"? You mean the ones who swoop down during times of disasters to sucker people into the cult while they're at their most vulnerable? Handing out copies of The Way to Happiness? Gee, thanks Scientology, just what they need.
Can you comment on the evil warlord Xenu story one learns at OT3? Do you think it fair to hold this back from people until they've paid hundreds of thousands of dollars? Don't you think they should be told at the outset that Scientology teaches God never existed, but is an implant from Xenu?
Lastly, please direct me to ANY independent study that shows your "detox" program has helped anyone. Surely with such an effective treatment you've agreed to peer review studies, right?
jimbo

United States

#12 Aug 19, 2007
Rachel99 wrote:
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Never mind the fact that countless Scientologists have lost their friends, family and life savings to this despicable cult. Religion? Hardly, you are a scam, no more no less.
Hubbard's "research"? What a laugh! The man was a complete failure academically; Scientology has tried to rewrite history and portray Hubbard as an altruistic humanitarian.
"Ministers"? You mean the ones who swoop down during times of disasters to sucker people into the cult while they're at their most vulnerable? Handing out copies of The Way to Happiness? Gee, thanks Scientology, just what they need.
Can you comment on the evil warlord Xenu story one learns at OT3? Do you think it fair to hold this back from people until they've paid hundreds of thousands of dollars? Don't you think they should be told at the outset that Scientology teaches God never existed, but is an implant from Xenu?
Lastly, please direct me to ANY independent study that shows your "detox" program has helped anyone. Surely with such an effective treatment you've agreed to peer review studies, right?
Thank you. Glad you see them for what they really are. Wish people could also see Islam as it really is.

Since: Jul 07

Lake Forest, CA

#13 Aug 19, 2007
Diogenes wrote:
The Courant’s terse description of Scientology is laudably neutral. Yet, even so, there's that ever-presnet reference, "Science-fiction writer" In fact Hubbard wrote a lot less sci-fi than adventure, Westerns and mysteries. He wrote in all genres to finance bed and board during his early researchesinto the human mind.
that point aside, after years of watching media pre-judge Scientology, I automatically wonder,“Is there a snide article hidden somewhere in the Courant that I've missed?” My fellow journalists have made me mistust our education that journalism was to be objective, verifiable, fact-checked, dispassionate and -- above all -- even-handed.
In other coverage, I constantly marvel that these ideals of objective coverage get quietly chloroformed when media cover Scientology.
Never mind that its churches and secular groups have helped a million people through (purely physical, non-religious) detox program that helps people stay free of drug urges.
Never mind that its volunteer ministers take weeks away from jobs and family to unselfishly help victims of hurricanes, riots, tsunamis, flood and earthquakes.
Never mind that Way to Happiness campaigns teach youth (and criminals) about honesty, about telling the truth, giving fair value, working hard, learning one’s trade or profession well, and honoring parents.
Never mind that Scientologists have gone into some of Mexico’s worst hell-hole prisons and helped reform inmates.
Naah! Skip all that. They're just Scientologists! Not real people like us and our friends.
Examine yourselves, reporters. Then go back and reread your many (but dusty) codes of professional ethics.
How would your Ethics of Journalism prof grade your coverage of Scientology?
It’s good to see exceptions.
Never mind that their detox programs are extremely expensive and dangerous to recovering addicts.

Never mind that religion was a spin Hubbard put on his his program after it had failed as a science.

Never mind the Sea Org's early ministries were in an attempt to create a scientologist country and spread lies about the Mental health community.

Never mind that telling the truth means "telling an acceptable truth"

Never mind Hubbard had no formal training or education with the human mind.

One right doesn't erase 1,000 wrongs. So what if they have humanitarian campaigns abroad. Look at what they've been doing here at home.

I'd just like to add it's not scientologists that the media and the public are criticising. It's the CoS and for good reason.

“Arnaldo "Arnie" Lerma”

Since: Jul 07

Washington DC - Georgetown

#14 Aug 19, 2007
Dear Mr Packer,
http://www.Lermanet.com/shannon/

and

http://www.Lermanet.com/lies/

Are all you really need to know about the worlds greatest CONman.

Regards
Arnie Lerma
Ten thousand lies about me -
won't change a single truth about Scientology
at Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
Mad Max

Subiaco, Australia

#15 Aug 20, 2007
James Lightfield wrote:
To place Dincalci's statement in context, read the affidavit of a former executive for the Church of Scientology who quit and was paid by psychiatric front groups to attack Scientology.
James...with all due respect you are displaying paranoia , as per the mind set of L.R.Hubbard.

"There are those who still believe that, for all his faults, Hubbard made a significant contribution to helping his fellow men.

And there are those who now believe, sadly, that they were the unwitting victims of one of the most successful and colourful confidence tricksters of the twentieth century".
James Lightfield

Salfordville, PA

#17 Aug 20, 2007
Scientology / Affidavit

Your reply makes no sense.

I provided a link to an affidavit by a former executive of Scientology (Aznaran) who attests that she was paid by psychiatric front groups to create hostility against Scientology.

Her affidavit also documents how lies are manufactured to discredit Scientology by a small group of paid detractors.

http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/Aznaran.htm
Mad Max

Subiaco, Australia

#19 Aug 20, 2007
James L. it appears that the complaint paperwork for Ms Aznaran by her legal team was contradictory to her wishes.I don`t understand why she would pursue these "accusations" of litigants against Co$ when she was litagating herself????

It seems to me she was still very much in love with the Co$.

Since we all tell fibs I chose this passage because it is manifest in present day and concern for many.Please explain James......who is the "enemy" James??????who is lying James???????

15. The Fair Game policy was a policy to forward Scientology's belief that any attacks on Scientology by those seeking to destroy it were to be vigorously defended by legal means and never ignored. It was not a policy condoning or encouraging illegal or criminal activities.

O.k. that is ms Aznarans "interpretaion" of fair game.....this is a copy of the official document........

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex Remimeo
HCO Policy Letter of 18 October 1967
Issue IV

PENALTIES FOR LOWER CONDITIONS
(Applies both Orgs and Sea Org)

LIABILITY Suspension of pay and a dirty grey rag on left arm and day and
night confinement to org premises.

TREASON Suspension of pay and deprivation of all uniforms and insignia,
a black mark on left cheek and confinement on org premises or
dismissal from post and debarment from premises.

DOUBT Debarment from premises. Not to be employed. Payment of fine
amounting to any sum may have cost org. Not to be trained or
processed. Not to be communicated or argued with.

ENEMY SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured
by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the
Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.

LRH:jp L. RON HUBBARD
Copyright (c) 1967 Founder
by L. Ron Hubbard

Mad Max

Subiaco, Australia

#20 Aug 20, 2007
James Lightfield wrote:
Scientology / Affidavit
Your reply makes no sense.
I provided a link to an affidavit by a former executive of Scientology (Aznaran) who attests that she was paid by psychiatric front groups to create hostility against Scientology.
Her affidavit also documents how lies are manufactured to discredit Scientology by a small group of paid detractors.
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/Aznaran.htm
24. 1 recently learned that Mr. Berry actually filed a nineteen-page declaration purportedly signed by me. Mr. Berry attached my signature to a declaration which I never saw or authorized.

25. Passages inserted without my knowledge or authorization in the version of my declaration filed by Mr. Berry include statements that are untrue and/or about which I have no personal knowledge. Not only did I not make these statements, I never heard of them before.

Above is a statement of professional misconduct and Mr.G. Berry was definately not a member of a psychiatric front group.He was an attorney.It is a professional misconduct case.

Where to with the conspiracy of a psychiatric front group now James Lightfield?????? Or is it paranoia creeping in again?????

“Proud SP since 2003”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#21 Aug 20, 2007
James Lightfield wrote:
Scientology / Affidavit
Your reply makes no sense.
I provided a link to an affidavit by a former executive of Scientology (Aznaran) who attests that she was paid by psychiatric front groups to create hostility against Scientology.
Her affidavit also documents how lies are manufactured to discredit Scientology by a small group of paid detractors.
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/Aznaran.htm
That's nice James.

Now how about addressing my question. To wit: Don't you think people should be told up front about the Xenu story, and that $cientology teaches God never existed, but was merely an implant by the aforementioned galactic warlord Xenu?

“Arnaldo "Arnie" Lerma”

Since: Jul 07

Washington DC - Georgetown

#22 Aug 20, 2007
What about the harassment and persecution of those who arn't hypnotized by Hubbard and tell the truth?
http://www.Lermanet.com/persecution/

What about the Clinical trial of Dianetics?
http://www.lermanet.com/creed-pearson/dianeti...

What about Jeremy Perkins?
http://www.jeremyperkins.org

HAve you ever seen this video Mr Lightfield?

The best Introductory Video about Scientology
Starring

Forrest Ackerman - Rons Literary agent
Ron DeWolfe - Ron's son, deceased
Paulette Cooper - my personal freind
Gerry Armstrong - my personal friend
Barbara Kaye - Hubbard's Public relations officer
Michael Goldstein - my personal friend
Dennis Erlich -(we were both raided by scn in 1995)
Hana Eltringham - D/Commodore Scientology and personal friend
John Atak- Piece of Blue Sky, I consider him my freind
Vaughn Young - PRO for Scientology and a past friend
Laurel Sullivan - Hubbard PRO
Jean Cox - Writer
Forrest Ackerman - Rons Literary Agent
Ray Kemp - ex Mission Holder
Lyle Stewart - Publisher, we talked once years ago..
Jim DinCalcini - Ron's Medical Officer - knew the name from when i was in
Jesse Prince - friend from LMT
Put the keywords above into the Lermanet.com Search engine for more information.

FRIEND OF MANKIND
http://video.google.com/videoplay...

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