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Hubbard foretells his return in Hymn of Asia

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Polly

Surry Hills, Australia

#1 Feb 6, 2007
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Dermot wrote:
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dear Polly,
No Hubbard foretold the coming of the Metraya in the Hymn of Asia.
I know my tech you twit. Don't try to fool people with your alleged knowledge. You just twist it around like the solid sp you are.
Dermot
You have again tried to convelute hubbards own words dermot, so this thread is going to contain hubbards own words that he was the Metteya and would return as per the Prophecies.
Polly

Surry Hills, Australia

#2 Feb 6, 2007
IV. THE PROPHECY OF METTEYA

But Siddhartha Gautama did not regard himself as an end point. He looked upon his work as incomplete and prophesized that at a later time a successor would arise to complete his work.

The most specific wording of this prediction in Buddhist literature states that 2,500 years after Buddha a red-haired or golden-haired man would arise in the West to complete the job Buddha began.
In Buddhist literature his name is known as Metteya (or Metteyya with two y’s) in Pali2, or Maitreya in Sanskrit.3

Metta is the Pali word for love. Thus the name could mean „One whose name is kindness“. A more fluent translation of Metteya in English would be „friend“.
The legend of Metteya forms an important part of the Buddhist Mature.

There are two descriptions of Metteya in the Pali Canon, the earliest Buddhist scriptures. These references are found in a portion of the Canon known as the Digha Nikaya which represent the memorized sermons of Buddha, faithfully passed down orally from generation to generation and finally transcribed in the first century B.C.
Polly

Surry Hills, Australia

#3 Feb 6, 2007
When new Buddhist writings began to be composed just before and after the Christian era once again we hear of Maitreya (or Metteya). These mainly consisted of legendary accounts of the birthplace and history of the new Buddha-to-be.

Some 600 to 700 years later, at a time when Buddhism was decaying internally through rampant ritualism and superstition, a reformer from Southern India wrote a Pali poem entitled „Anagata Vamsa“. In this poem the author describes in detail the coming of Metteya who will revitalize the Truth Buddha promulgated and usher in a new golden age for the entire known world.

Various other descriptions of Metteya frequently recur in Buddhist literature.

Statues of Metteya can be found throughout Buddhist lands where he often goes by local names. Buddhists universally believe in his advent and that,according to the legend, he shall appear in the West.

2 Pali - the language of Buddha and Pali Canon (the earliest written scriptures of Buddhism).
3 Sanskrit - the classical language of Indian literature.

It would be instructive to look at some examples of this great prophecy which has at one time or another inspired the greater portion of Mankind.
In one passage in the Digha Nikaya wherein Buddha has been describing a world decline he states:

At that period, brethren, there will arise in the World an Exalted one named Metteya, Arahant,4 Fully Awakened, abounding in wisdom and goodness, happy,
with knowledge of the worlds, unsurpassed as a guide to mortals, willing to be led, a teacher for gods and men, an Exalted One, a Buddha, even as I am now.
Polly

Surry Hills, Australia

#4 Feb 6, 2007
He, by himself, will thoroughly know and see, as it were face to face, this universe, with its worlds of the spirits, its Brahmas,5 and its Maras,6 and its worlds of recluses and Brahmins,7 of princes and peoples, even as I now, by myself, thoroughly know and see them. The truth (the Norm) lovely in its origin, lovely in its progress, lovely in its consummation, will he proclaim, both in spirit and in the letter, the higher life will he make known, in all its fullness and in all its purity, even as I do now. He will be accompanied by a congregation of some thousands of brethren, even as I am now accompanied by a congregation of some hundreds of brethren.

Later, as Buddha prepared for his death, the following prophecy was among his last
words:

And Ananda,8 suppressing his tears, said to the Blessed One:‘Who shall teach us when thou art gone?’

And the Blessed One replied:‘I am not the first Buddha who came upon earth, nor shall I be the last. I came to teach you the truth, and I have founded on earth the kingdom of truth. Gautama Siddhartha will die, but Buddha will live,
for Buddha is the truth, and the truth cannot die. He who believes in the truth and lives it, is my disciple, and I shall teach him. The truth will be propagated, and the kingdom of truth will increase for about five hundred years. Then for a while the clouds of error will darken the light, and in due time another Buddha will arise, and he will reveal to you the self-same eternal truth which I have
taught you.’

Ananda said:‘How shall we know him?’

The Blessed One said:‘The Buddha that will come after me will be known as Maitreya, which means ‘he whose name is kindness.’(From the Book of the Great
Polly

Surry Hills, Australia

#5 Feb 6, 2007
The Blessed One said:‘The Buddha that will come after me will be known as Maitreya, which means ‘he whose name is kindness.’(From the Book of the Great Decease)

The idea that Metteya will arrive when Man’s fortunes are at a low ebb is prevalent in the legend. For example, here is a description of his advent from Chinese Buddhist sources:

4 Arahant - variation of Arhat, one who has attained spiritual perfection.

5 Brahmas - plural of Brahma, from Hindu terminology, a term signifying the personified creative aspect of a spiritual absolute.

6 Maras - plural of Mara, literally death; the personification of evil.

7 Brahmins - members of the Indian priest caste.

8 Ananda – Buddha’s cousin and his chief aide.

The first period began with Sakyamuni9 Buddha and ended five hundred years after his death. It is called ‘Cheng-fa’, here translated as the first model period. The second period lasts from the end of Cheng-fa for another five hundred years and is called ‘Hsiang-fa’, the period in which pictures must be used. In this period men must work their way to the truth through pictures and books. From the end of the second period and lasting for a further two thousand years comes ‘Mo-fa’, the final period. Then sin and need are increased to such a degree that Buddhism itself goes to pieces. At this point, Maitreya appears with his Millennial kingdom. A new cycle of life begins, with hope and redemption for all living things. Thus one cycle follows another until all living things are redeemed.

In ‘Mi-lo-Hsia-sheng Ching’, the Chinese scripture describing Metteya’s descent into the world, we find how he is solemnly appointed by Gautama Buddha to come as the great renewer at the time when the power of evil is at its height and all living things seem to be going to ruin under sin and punishment.
Polly

Surry Hills, Australia

#6 Feb 6, 2007
And in Tibetan Buddhist materials, echoing earlier Buddhist Indian sources, this startling prophecy is made:

When he shall be seen in the West, seated in the Western fashion, his hair like flames about his noble head, discoursing, then shall the inhabitants of the Three Worlds10 rejoice, knowing that the emancipation of all sentient beings is imminent. Then it shall be called the age of the blessed because it will become commonplace to achieve Emancipation in one life-time.

Professor Nicholas Roerich (1874-1947), Russian painter and archaeologist, spent five years exploring in the Himalayas. In his Altai-Himalaya, a five year record of his expedition (now out of print) he related widespread prophecies throughout the East concerning Metteya.

Professor Roerich states in Altai-Himalaya,„It is told in the prophecies how the new era shall manifest itself.“

He relates some of these prophecies as follows:
1. First will begin an unprecedented war of all nations.
2. Then shall the Teachers appear and in all corners of the world shall be heard the true teaching.
3. To this word of truth shall the people be drawn but those who are filled with darkness and ignorance shall set obstacles… even those who by accident help the Teachings of (this spiritual king of the world) will receive in return a hundred fold.
9 Sakyamuni -Buddha's full name was originally Siddhartha Gautama of the Sakyas. Siddhartha was his given name;
Polly

Surry Hills, Australia

#7 Feb 6, 2007
Gautama his surname and Sakya the name of the clan to which his family belonged. After he attained Buddha-hood hisdisciples sometimes called him Sakyamuni, "silent sage (muni) of the Sakya clan."
10 Three Worlds - three worlds of Tibetan Scriptures: Body: The physical world pertaining to the body and its operationsand life. Speech: The 'world' of Communication between entities and things. Mind: One's own world, the world of one'sown Creation.
4. And one can already perceive unusual people. Already they (the teachers) open the gates of knowledge, and ripened fruits are falling from the trees.
And finally:
5. Those who accept Him (the Messiah) shall rejoice. And those who deny Him shall tremble… And the warriors (teachers) shall march under the banner of Maitreya.

V. SUMMARY OF THE METTEYA LEGEND
Thus, we find these are the most salient details of the Metteya legend.
1. He shall appear in the West.
2. He shall appear at a time when religion shall be waning, when the world is imperiled and convulsed in turmoil.
3. He will have golden hair or red hair.
4. He will complete the work of Gautama Buddha and bring in a new golden age of man by making possible the attainment of spiritual freedom by all beings.
5. Although the date of his advent is variously forecast, the nearest date places it 2,500 years after Gautama Buddha – or roughly 1950 (the date of Gautama’s own life being somewhat of an estimate itself). In one form or another the prophecy of Metteya has been the principal hope that the
East has preserved and bequeathed to the world.

Since: Jan 07

Jellystone Park

#8 Feb 6, 2007
does any other buddhist literature written by anyone other than LRH predict that someone similar in appearance to LRH would be the next coming?

Does any other buddhist literature put any weight or value on hair color?
John

San Joaquin, CA

#9 Feb 6, 2007
Ah yes Hymn of Asia. My favorite work.

Scares you huh Polly. Why else would you pull this lovely work up to twist and ridicule

Do you have a copy?

You should get the CD version. Its wonderful.
Rachel

United States

#10 Feb 6, 2007
If she's twisting it why don't you clarify it for us.
Polly

Surry Hills, Australia

#11 Feb 6, 2007
John wrote:
Ah yes Hymn of Asia. My favorite work.
Scares you huh Polly.
Why would it 'scare' me John? It's a good indicator how elron considered himself to be above all existence and he is foretelling his own return, not unlike the materials in OT VIII.
John wrote:
Why else would you pull this lovely work up to twist and ridicule
How is posting word for word the Metteya legend from huymn of asia according to L Ron Hubbard who is referring to himself twisting anything?
John wrote:
Do you have a copy?
What do you think John, Ive yet to find all the text of hymn of asia on-line.
John wrote:
You should get the CD version. Its wonderful.
I bet you think all ron's 'artistry' is wonderful. Ron sure was an 'artist', a BULLSHIT ARTIST! LOL!!
John

San Joaquin, CA

#12 Feb 7, 2007
Dear Polly or whoever you are,

What you posted was not the Hymn of Asia Polly.

You lose as you cant even duplicate his work even if the book is in the stores!

Nice try though smearing his most beautiful work.

Doesnt work Polly try again.
Polly

Surry Hills, Australia

#13 Feb 7, 2007
John wrote:
Dear Polly or whoever you are,
What you posted was not the Hymn of Asia Polly.
You lose as you cant even duplicate his work even if the book is in the stores!
Nice try though smearing his most beautiful work.
Doesnt work Polly try again.
Golly John, your first post in this thread was admitting that what I posted was from hubbards dribble. Now you are trying to deny it because what I posted from his Hymn of Asia shows all and sundry that hubbard considered himself the metteya and was foretelling his return.
Scientology is shrinking John, get out before it sucks you into nothingness.
thinkertinker

Swedesboro, NJ

#14 Feb 7, 2007
the truth is that the cos no longer promotes
this lie of his in the book andf are embarassed
by some of the junk he wrote in it.
so they changed it to a c.d.
note that they seldom even publicize that he claimed
he was buddha.
Just more FRAUD from him?
John

San Joaquin, CA

#15 Feb 7, 2007
tink,

This is hardly true.

No one is embarassed of any of LRHs works.

The CD includes the book you twit. It is a wonderful piece of work.

Keep attacking a great author at your own peril.

Polly

Sydney, Australia

#16 Feb 7, 2007
John wrote:
tink,
This is hardly true.
No one is embarassed of any of LRHs works.
Well why has RTC and DN been altering so much 'tech' and doctrines of LRH. KSW?
Dermot

Limerick, Ireland

#17 Feb 8, 2007
Polly wrote:
<quoted text>Well why has RTC and DN been altering so much 'tech' and doctrines of LRH. KSW?
Dear Polly twacker,

Actually it was LRH and RTC who put back in standard Scientology after idiots not unlike yourself perverted it so it wouldn't work.

You live in an Alice through the Looking Glass world....black is white. Its called lack of perception from committing and building up so many overts on others around one. It clouds ones perception.

Dermot

Since: Jan 07

Jellystone Park

#18 Feb 8, 2007
Yogi Bear wrote:
does any other buddhist literature written by anyone other than LRH predict that someone similar in appearance to LRH would be the next coming?
Does any other buddhist literature put any weight or value on hair color?
I mean this as a serious and honest question
Polly

Redhead, Australia

#19 Feb 8, 2007
Dermot wrote:
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Dear Polly twacker,
Actually it was LRH and RTC who put back in standard Scientology after idiots not unlike yourself perverted it so it wouldn't work.
So you are saying that the original standard tech that LRH wrote that was by his own account flubless and workable is and has beed squirreled? I knoew that soon after GAT and me leaving dermot.
Dermot wrote:
You live in an Alice through the Looking Glass world....black is white.
ROFL!! TR 2. So much for you obtaining the ability of 'acknowledgements' LMAO!![QUOTE who="Dermot"Its called lack of perception from committing and building up so many overts on others around one. It clouds ones perception.
Dermot[/QUOTE]Uh, no. Its called brainwashing ala hubbardarianism and accepting elrons own perceptions/beliefs/ideologies /bank/reactive mind/engrams as your very own perceptions/beliefs/ideologies /bank/reactive mind/engrams through duplication and agreement.
Polly

Redhead, Australia

#20 Feb 8, 2007
ROFL!! TR 2. So much for you obtaining the ability of 'acknowledgements' LMAO!!
Dermot wrote:
Its called lack of perception from committing and building up so many overts on others around one. It clouds ones perception.
Dermot
Uh, no. Its called brainwashing ala hubbardarianism and accepting elrons own perceptions/beliefs/ideologies /bank/reactive mind/engrams as your very own perceptions/beliefs/ideologies /bank/reactive mind/engrams through duplication and agreement.

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