Watchtower Disciples and Blood
jhnsn d-s

Seattle, WA

#1 May 12, 2017
In this video the women knows inherently she is doing the right thing to save her sons life. Listen to her words of certainty. She is just like the ones Paul spoke of in Romans 2:15 who are a law unto themselves meaning they are organically inclined and do things Gods way without even knowing it. An element of the Mosaic law was to have love for yourself which in the Greek is agapa and her son is part of her.

How they make the transition from eating no animal blood to no-human blood transfusion is by way of adding to the Mosaic law which is strictly prohibited.

Deuteronomy 12:1, 15, 23 "These are the regulations and the judicial decisions that You should be careful to carry out...whenever your soul craves it...eat meat...only the blood You must not eat. On the earth you should pour it out as water...Simply be firmly resolved not to eat the blood, because the blood is the soul...You must not eat it, in order that it may go well with you and your sons after you...Every word that I am commanding YOU is what YOU should becareful to do. You must not add to it nor take away from it. Deuteronomy 12:32
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jhnsn d-s

Seattle, WA

#2 Jul 21, 2017
How the leadership makes the transition from eating no animal blood to no Human blood transfusion is by way of adding to the Mosaic Dietary Health Law(s).

Deuteronomy 12:1, 15, 23 "These are the regulations and the judicial decisions that You should be careful to carry out...whenever your soul craves it...eat meat...only the blood You must not eat. On the earth you should pour it out as water...Simply be firmly resolved not to eat the blood, because the blood is the soul...You must not eat it, in order that it may go well with you and your sons after you...Every word that I am commanding YOU is what YOU should be careful to do. You must not add to it nor take away from it. Deuteronomy 12:32

SUPPLEMENTAL: The Mosaic health law required the animal die from bleeding to death. Today, the quality of bleed-out is not comparable to back then because of the animal feed including drugs, and the entire process they go through before slaughter or death. Espically with chickens about 10-15 years ago slaughter house managers have complained of the poor quality bleed-out they are getting. And its common knowledge that blood carry's disease causing pathogens. And this might be in part what God had in mind good health practices so they wouldn't pass adversity on to their children. Deuteronomy 12:25

The decision made by the apostles, elders, brothers or whole congergation with the assistance of the holy spirit seems to be understood by the Watchtower disciples who are not merely reciting what others have told it should mean to them when these scriptures are brought up. The context shows these decision makers are asserting their authority over those who were previously among them but adhered to and mixed at least circumcision in with the gospel as a means to salvation. Acts 15:22, 24, 28

The decision makers counter this false teaching with a letter written to these 3 congergations to maintain these specified standards of the Mozaic law which they might'a had already been doing. So this is probaly why they rejoiced because it wasn't a burden knowing the benefical health effects of not eating unbled meat or the blood that had been drained from the body. Acts 15:31

After this Paul decides to vist other congergations and along the way he passes on the new law judically decided upon by the apostles. Acts 16:4

In the end, the formal process the apostles and others went through did not result in adding to the moral or health laws but rather who is required to keep the exisiting health laws, the gentiles.
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jhnsn d-s

Seattle, WA

#3 Sep 21, 2017
At about 3 minutes in to the below video the "infamous" AWAKE magazine of May 22, 1994 highlights on the front page pictures of youthful Kids parents sacrificed to the governingbodys no-blood policy that prohibits human blood transfusion. How they sacrifice their kids is by way of allowing them to bleed to death simularly to animals that required bleeding to death before they could be offered up as a sacrifice on the alter so, these kids become an acceptable sacrifice their leadership can then offer through the pages of their magazine to their god. To clarify, the leadership dosen't offer the dead kids for the benefit of the parents but to benefit themselves in the eyes of their god cause it evidences these are their taught ones or disciples. Because of the governingbody this teaching exists, is supplemented and reenforced through-out the generations and this is the justification for laying claim to the sacrifice as from the governingbody to their god.

This particular magazine is captioned with "Youths Who Put God First". Page 3 has a photo of Adrian with the big caption, "He 'Remembered His Creator in the Days of His Youth'. This saying is taken from the Watchtower Bible at Ecclesiastics 12:1 and if you read the context it speaks to a long life in to old age where as the AWAKE writers make it out to be a short sacrificial life.

This idea from Ecclesiastics was put fourth in a comment section many years ago among the watchtower disciples including their is alot'a status' in the congergation for parents who let their kids die. Anyway, the thread settled down and a response came fourth somthing like this, "aren't we so well read that we do not know this" evidently written to the ones who went silent and to me reading the response sounded like a dead voice or like an old Hitler crackly radio voice. It was the strangest thing.

Today, some claim based on the number of watchtower disciples and if the numbers are accurate their would be thousands yearly needing actual blood transfusions inaddition to any products used to keep the veins from collapsing but seldom do you hear of one dieing for lack of blood.

note: some of the less informed watchtower disciples may dispute portions of this but in the early eighties the disciples were taught the magazines are an avenue used to make offerings to their god.

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The Bible Student

Bartlesville, OK

#4 Oct 9, 2017
Anyone can choose to be destroyed with this world, it is just a matter of believing or not.
The Bible Student

Bartlesville, OK

#5 Oct 9, 2017
jhnsn d-s wrote:
At about 3 minutes in to the below video the "infamous" AWAKE magazine of May 22, 1994 highlights on the front page pictures of youthful Kids parents sacrificed to the governingbodys no-blood policy that prohibits human blood transfusion. How they sacrifice their kids is by way of allowing them to bleed to death simularly to animals that required bleeding to death before they could be offered up as a sacrifice on the alter so, these kids become an acceptable sacrifice their leadership can then offer through the pages of their magazine to their god. To clarify, the leadership dosen't offer the dead kids for the benefit of the parents but to benefit themselves in the eyes of their god cause it evidences these are their taught ones or disciples. Because of the governingbody this teaching exists, is supplemented and reenforced through-out the generations and this is the justification for laying claim to the sacrifice as from the governingbody to their god.

This particular magazine is captioned with "Youths Who Put God First". Page 3 has a photo of Adrian with the big caption, "He 'Remembered His Creator in the Days of His Youth'. This saying is taken from the Watchtower Bible at Ecclesiastics 12:1 and if you read the context it speaks to a long life in to old age where as the AWAKE writers make it out to be a short sacrificial life.

This idea from Ecclesiastics was put fourth in a comment section many years ago among the watchtower disciples including their is alot'a status' in the congergation for parents who let their kids die. Anyway, the thread settled down and a response came fourth somthing like this, "aren't we so well read that we do not know this" evidently written to the ones who went silent and to me reading the response sounded like a dead voice or like an old Hitler crackly radio voice. It was the strangest thing.

Today, some claim based on the number of watchtower disciples and if the numbers are accurate their would be thousands yearly needing actual blood transfusions inaddition to any products used to keep the veins from collapsing but seldom do you hear of one dieing for lack of blood.

note: some of the less informed watchtower disciples may dispute portions of this but in the early eighties the disciples were taught the magazines are an avenue used to make offerings to their god.

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The Question should be, would you have the faith to die in obedience to Jesus, our King in Heaven, as he was willing to die for his faith.

I doubt it.
The Bible Student

Bartlesville, OK

#6 Oct 9, 2017
Dying for your faith in Almighty God Jehovah, as Jesus did, and was our example, now that takes strong faith, even children JW's have that strong faith.

No one will survive the end of this world, without it.
jhnsn d-s

Seattle, WA

#7 Oct 10, 2017
Although faith was an inherant quality, Yahushua was way beyond writing with crayons the teachings of faith where he highlighted his death in terms of authority and commandment that authorised him to die. John 10:18 As for "learned obedience" text are certainly not encouraging dog obedience as the Watchtower disciples are known for but obedience to doing or not doing what you know under diffucult circumstances or stay the course but their is more to it than this where he may have known of this concept obedience but never experienced because it's confined to the humansphere of things. His learned obedience only occurrs after he becomes the Messiah. A simularly idea appears when God orginated the word and concept for wisdom probably during Climate Change of Noahs day shortly before he caused it to rain is when this annoucement was made at Job 28:28 up until this time it dosen't exist so you have to be taught or learn what it is even for the spirit beings and these might be ideals that are unque just for the humansphere of things. In other words these concepts obedience and wisdom do not exist on the spirit plan. Hebrews 5:7, Phillipians 2:8

Paul encourages ones who are apart of Gods immediate family to go beyong the basics such as faith towards God and "press on to maturity" espically with some of the Jews because their rapport started first with God and then he pointed them to his son Hebrews 6:1, John 6:45

So for the strong faith of this youth who died for the watchtower teachings it translates onto wickedness because the teaching is a perversion of the Hebrew and Greek text and misrepresents God and teachings of Prophets, Apostles, Oldermen, Congergaton and Holy Spirit. At this time in history it can be seen that God set prescedant not requiring human sacrfices when Abraham was firmly set to sacrfic Isaac his son but God stopped it and decided to continue accepting animal sacrices. Sometime later during the days of Jeremiah It looks like the sons of Isreal lured Judah in to ritual sacrifice of their kids to Molech, "...a thing I did not command them, neither did it come up in to my heart to do this detestable thing, for the purpose of making Judah sin" Jeremiah 32:30

A small published studie on the death experience of drugged persons showed increased brain activity that mimics a lucid state or like sleeping. John 11:11 Animal studies have disclosed increased brain activity also and theorised from lack of oxygen which suggest struggle or not dying a peacful death. The last time I thought on death I was laying down getting ready to sleep and actually became excited even rubbing my toes together and had that feeling in my upper back that would cause you to kind'a squirm around just like that little city kid who learned he was going to the mountains or ocean but i have learned to manage it 5341PMPST 101017 #7

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