Quakers back gay marriage

Quakers back gay marriage

There are 35 comments on the Daily Express story from Jul 11, 2010, titled Quakers back gay marriage. In it, Daily Express reports that:

QUAKERS are calling for gay people to be allowed the same marital status as their heterosexual counterparts.

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Since: May 09

United States

#1 Jul 11, 2010
Quakers = true Christians, following the teachings of Jesus. Now if all Christians would do the same what a wonderful world it would be.
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#2 Jul 11, 2010
Long Live Richard Nixon !

:)

Since: May 08

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#3 Jul 11, 2010
Considering their conservatism, I am surprised, delighted but surprised. I wonder if it will play in Peoria?

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

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#4 Jul 11, 2010
Frank Stanton wrote:
Long Live Richard Nixon !
:)
You haven't hears? Nixon died some time ago. And yes, I voted for him. Amazing how many people claim not to have.
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#5 Jul 11, 2010
RalphB wrote:
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You haven't hears? Nixon died some time ago. And yes, I voted for him. Amazing how many people claim not to have.
I videotaped his funeral from the tv. I was only 16 years old the last time he ran for office. I was making a joke because he was a Quaker.(I THINK the only other POTUS who was a Quaker was Hoover.)

“II Samuel 1:26”

Since: Jan 09

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#6 Jul 11, 2010
I have a friend who recently left the RCC and became a Quaker for this very reason. He finally got fed up with the Catholic Church and all it's hate and bigotry.

Since: May 09

Marin County, CA

#7 Jul 11, 2010
Frank Stanton wrote:
Long Live Richard Nixon !
:)
not sure if you read this article or opened the link, but these Quakers are in the UK, not the US...and they are advocating for equal marriage rights in the UK Parliament

Since: May 08

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#8 Jul 11, 2010
Joe in Novato wrote:
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not sure if you read this article or opened the link, but these Quakers are in the UK, not the US...and they are advocating for equal marriage rights in the UK Parliament
Funny how people do not understand history or even look it up in a search engine.

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The origin of the name "Quaker" is disputed. In 1650 George Fox was brought before Justice Bennet of Derby on a charge of blasphemy. According to Fox's journal, Bennet "called us Quakers because we bid them tremble at the word of God",[2] a scriptural reference (e.g., Isaiah 66:2, Ezra 9:4). Therefore, what began apparently as a way to make fun of Fox's admonition by those outside the Society of Friends became a nickname that even Friends use for themselves. The name "Religious Society of Friends", dating from the 18th century, remains the most widely-accepted name to this day, although often "Quakers" is added in parentheses for the sake of clarity. However, there are some Friends who prefer other names: some evangelical Friends' organizations use the term "Friends Church", and some Friends (usually in unprogrammed meetings) object to the word "religious" and refer to themselves as part of the "Society of Friends". There are some monthly meetings that for this reason do not include "religious" in their name, while most larger Quaker organizations, such as yearly meetings, use the full name.

Quakers try to bear witness or testify to their beliefs in their every day life - an expression of "spirituality in action".[7] The ways in which they testify are often known as Quaker testimonies or Friends' testimonies: these are not a formal, static set of words, but rather a shared view or attitude of how many Quakers relate to God and the world. This leads to each Quaker having a different understanding of what the testimonies are and, while the ideologies remain quite similar for all Quakers, they go by different names, and different values are included throughout the Religious Society of Friends. The Testimonies are interrelated and can be seen as a coherent philosophical system, even outside Christian theology. The testimonies have not always been consistent, but throughout their history they have challenged Friends and provided them with guidance.

And Hover was a Quaker as well as Nixon.

Since: May 09

United States

#9 Jul 11, 2010
pauline 2 wrote:
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Funny how people do not understand history or even look it up in a search engine.
two bits please.
The origin of the name "Quaker" is disputed. In 1650 George Fox was brought before Justice Bennet of Derby on a charge of blasphemy. According to Fox's journal, Bennet "called us Quakers because we bid them tremble at the word of God",[2] a scriptural reference (e.g., Isaiah 66:2, Ezra 9:4). Therefore, what began apparently as a way to make fun of Fox's admonition by those outside the Society of Friends became a nickname that even Friends use for themselves. The name "Religious Society of Friends", dating from the 18th century, remains the most widely-accepted name to this day, although often "Quakers" is added in parentheses for the sake of clarity. However, there are some Friends who prefer other names: some evangelical Friends' organizations use the term "Friends Church", and some Friends (usually in unprogrammed meetings) object to the word "religious" and refer to themselves as part of the "Society of Friends". There are some monthly meetings that for this reason do not include "religious" in their name, while most larger Quaker organizations, such as yearly meetings, use the full name.
Quakers try to bear witness or testify to their beliefs in their every day life - an expression of "spirituality in action".[7] The ways in which they testify are often known as Quaker testimonies or Friends' testimonies: these are not a formal, static set of words, but rather a shared view or attitude of how many Quakers relate to God and the world. This leads to each Quaker having a different understanding of what the testimonies are and, while the ideologies remain quite similar for all Quakers, they go by different names, and different values are included throughout the Religious Society of Friends. The Testimonies are interrelated and can be seen as a coherent philosophical system, even outside Christian theology. The testimonies have not always been consistent, but throughout their history they have challenged Friends and provided them with guidance.
And Hover was a Quaker as well as Nixon.
Thank you, a good insight into those extraordinary people.
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#10 Jul 11, 2010
Joe in Novato wrote:
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not sure if you read this article or opened the link, but these Quakers are in the UK, not the US...and they are advocating for equal marriage rights in the UK Parliament
It was a JOKE as I explained above. Grow up !

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#11 Jul 11, 2010
pauline 2 wrote:
Considering their conservatism, I am surprised, delighted but surprised. I wonder if it will play in Peoria?
I'm not sure your basis for considering Quakers to be conservative. I've always thought of them as liberal--in the classic sense of not prejudging people or ideas.
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#12 Jul 11, 2010
I think they also refuse to serve in the military, even in defense of the U.S. I think THAT is immoral.

Since: May 09

Marin County, CA

#13 Jul 11, 2010
Joe in Novato wrote:
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not sure if you read this article or opened the link, but these Quakers are in the UK, not the US...and they are advocating for equal marriage rights in the UK Parliament
Frank Stanton wrote:
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It was a JOKE as I explained above. Grow up !
a bit of an overreaction there!

I only pointed out these folks were in the UK, because we had talked a week or so ago about the difficulty of sometimes knowing where some of these stories originate from. Remember the Augusta, Georgia v Augusta, Maine discussion? And in this case, you were referring to Nixon, so I didn't know if you knew these folks in this article are in the UK. That's all.

Since: May 08

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#14 Jul 11, 2010
Nixon was a LT Commander in WWII.
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#15 Jul 11, 2010
pauline 2 wrote:
Nixon was a LT Commander in WWII.
I know. But I don't think he saw action.
Ben

Germany

#16 Jul 11, 2010
This article is defamatory and misrepresentative. MANY Quakers stand fast to the Bible and do not accept any sort of homosexual behavior as moral.

“Homosapien ”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#17 Jul 11, 2010
I've heard this many years ago, maybe they just made it official. The question is why is their religious freedom being denied by the governments of the U.S.A. and U.K.?

“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

Since: Jun 08

King Of Prussia, PA

#18 Jul 11, 2010
Ben wrote:
This article is defamatory and misrepresentative. MANY Quakers stand fast to the Bible and do not accept any sort of homosexual behavior as moral.
Is that what they tell you whenever you "cottage" with them, you sexually disordered, homophobic cretin?

I'm surprised any Quakers, US or UK, took this long to speak in favor of marriage equality.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#19 Jul 12, 2010
Nice but not especially newsworthy as Quakers have been in favour of full gay rights for years. Pauline, where did you get the idea they were "conservative?" Most Quakers are left-leaning peace-loving types. Nixon was an aberration.

“Fight bigotry.”

Since: Feb 07

Toms River, NJ

#20 Jul 12, 2010
Their convictions not to kill, or murder, are fully consistent with their religious beliefs. There is nothing immoral about that, Frankie.
Frank Stanton wrote:
I think they also refuse to serve in the military, even in defense of the U.S. I think THAT is immoral.

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