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Couple Denied Civil Partnership for Being Straight

There are 48 comments on the lezgetreal.com story from Nov 25, 2009, titled Couple Denied Civil Partnership for Being Straight. In it, lezgetreal.com reports that:

Tom Freeman and Katherine Doyle want to have the perfect civil union. The problem? Well, in Great Britain, civil unions, or civil partnerships, are restricted to only gay and lesbian couples. As a heterosexual couple, Freeman and Doyle cannot get a civil partnership, but can get married. It is, according to their reasoning, discriminatory.

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Since: Jan 08

Bangkok, Thailand

#1 Nov 25, 2009
Tit for tat, I'd say. It's about time the heterosexual world faced a bit of their own discrimination.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#3 Nov 25, 2009
This question cannot be accurately tackled till Britain allows same-sex marriages, which it currently does not.

“Son of Abraham”

Since: Aug 07

Natural Deviant

#6 Nov 25, 2009
This is such bullshite. Civil unions are offered to those who can not get married. For this straight couple to tell us they're being discriminated against is the biggest load of crap ever. If they want to make their "union" official then they should get married. It's as if a person with a million dollars is crying discrimination because they can't get food stamps.

Since: Mar 07

Washington DC

#9 Nov 25, 2009
I just can't stop laughing. This is what's going to happen here eventually.

In Britain it may break open marriage for the LGBT community. If their courts say separate but equal is anything but, there won't be any other option than to open each partnership to the other...

What a great legal quagmire!

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#10 Nov 25, 2009
If I read the article correctly, they are actually on the side of marriage equality. I don't know what they are attempting to do, other than bring this before the public, but I will not cast aspersons on them, for they are on our side. Personally, I think they should be lauded for their stand, not made fun of by gays who support marriage equality.

Since: Apr 07

Philadelphia, PA

#12 Nov 25, 2009
I am confused by some of these responses, I think this is a good thing.

Things are so far gone and so ugly that *ANYTHING* that could *CONCEIVABLY* bring marriage equality *ANYWHERE* is a good thing, in my eyes.

I am not about to criticize these people when New York and New Jersey have gotten *goddamn whiny* about marriage equality now, not by a long shot. This is all getting rather boring and something needs to be *done*. Maybe this will somehow *spur people in America* to keep fighting, since, unless I am vastly misunderstanding, they seem to be losing heart and resolve.

I promise you this battle will not be won without savagery. Look at what your opponents are doing; open your eyes.

Read the article about *VAUGHN WALKER'S COURTROOM* to get an idea of what the anti-gay *KNOW* they're lying about, repeat *KNOW* they are lying about. You can tell they know they're lying *because in his courtroom, they're terrified to cast aspersions*.

I am so stunned by this that I am going to make a separate thread about it.

“Even an Ice Princess can melt.”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#13 Nov 25, 2009
Oh give them the civil union. If we want equality we should give equality.

“STFU”

Since: May 07

Atlanta, GA

#14 Nov 25, 2009
Roisia wrote:
Oh give them the civil union. If we want equality we should give equality.
As soon as a gay couple can get married, then and only then should the straight couple be allowed to have a civil union. Fair is fair.

Since: Jan 07

Ann Arbor, MI

#15 Nov 25, 2009
If opposite-sex couples get civil partnerships, will same-sex couples get legal marriage?

Institutions that convey a legal status less than marriage, or which provide everything but the name appear to be more about establishing a two-tier system than equality - especially when you consider that one group is likely to be restricted to the lower tier.

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#16 Nov 25, 2009
Absolutely the couple in this story should be cheered! They're fighting against the convoluted, discriminatory laws that make "separate but equal" possible! We need more people like them on our side, demonstrating how out-of-whack this system is! You CAN'T just make a separate legal contract that's ONLY for gay and lesbian people! THAT'S discrimination! Duh!
bflogal

East Aurora, NY

#17 Nov 25, 2009
I think you guys are missing the point. This couple is standing up for our rights as homosexuals. In the article, it says, "Mr. Freeman stated “It would be lovely to formalise our relationship but we are completely turned off by the whole institution of marriage because it discriminates against gay people. We think gay people should be able to have a standard marriage and straight people should be able to have a civil partnership.” Ms Doyle concurred in his reasoning adding “We want a choice and all other couples should also have a choice, irrespective of their sexuality"

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#18 Nov 25, 2009
fuzi wrote:
<quoted text>As soon as a gay couple can get married, then and only then should the straight couple be allowed to have a civil union. Fair is fair.
Fuzi, normally I agree with your stands, but on this one I differ. We must rise above the petty stance that our enemies take. We must agree to giving straights the opportunity to take advantage of at least as much equality as we have, regardless of how short it is of full equality. If they wish to stand with us, I applaud them, and wish them well in their civil union. If more straights did this instead of being complacent with our being discriminated against, perhaps the powers-that-be would look at it a little differntly.
Verad

United States

#19 Nov 25, 2009
McMike wrote:
This is such bullshite. Civil unions are offered to those who can not get married. For this straight couple to tell us they're being discriminated against is the biggest load of crap ever. If they want to make their "union" official then they should get married. It's as if a person with a million dollars is crying discrimination because they can't get food stamps.
I couldn't agree more! This is completely ridiculous.
Verad

United States

#20 Nov 25, 2009
bflogal wrote:
I think you guys are missing the point. This couple is standing up for our rights as homosexuals. In the article, it says, "Mr. Freeman stated “It would be lovely to formalise our relationship but we are completely turned off by the whole institution of marriage because it discriminates against gay people. We think gay people should be able to have a standard marriage and straight people should be able to have a civil partnership.” Ms Doyle concurred in his reasoning adding “We want a choice and all other couples should also have a choice, irrespective of their sexuality"
That may be true but still, they have options and it makes me worry that they might be opening a whole other can of worms with this.
Short Left Index Finger

Hamilton, Canada

#21 Nov 25, 2009
I guess it's time for a couple of heterosexuals to hit the talk show circuit.
Curteese

Long Beach, CA

#22 Nov 25, 2009
Wahhh, we'er heteros and don't want to use our GOD GIVEN RIGHTS to marry and now we cannot get what the sinning gays get..whahhh! Talk about irony! I actually don't agree with the discrimination in this one, but find if incredibly FUNNY!
Short Left Index Finger

Hamilton, Canada

#23 Nov 25, 2009
Curteese wrote:
Wahhh, we'er heteros and don't want to use our GOD GIVEN RIGHTS to marry and now we cannot get what the sinning gays get..whahhh! Talk about irony! I actually don't agree with the discrimination in this one, but find if incredibly FUNNY!
It's you straights that commit,adultery,wife-beating,a nd having babies being born out of wedlock,so look in the mirror when you talk about sinners.

Since: Jan 07

Phoenix AZ

#30 Nov 25, 2009
McMike wrote:
This is such bullshite. Civil unions are offered to those who can not get married. For this straight couple to tell us they're being discriminated against is the biggest load of crap ever. If they want to make their "union" official then they should get married. It's as if a person with a million dollars is crying discrimination because they can't get food stamps.
Sorry McMike, I disagree. It is discriminatory! And for the same reasons that our not being able to marry is discriminatory.

Since: May 09

Marin County, CA

#33 Nov 25, 2009
rdg1234 wrote:
...Read the article about *VAUGHN WALKER'S COURTROOM* to get an idea of what the anti-gay *KNOW* they're lying about, repeat *KNOW* they are lying about. You can tell they know they're lying *because in his courtroom, they're terrified to cast aspersions*...
hey RGD, do you have a link to the specific article you're referring to? I've read many about the case in Judge Walker's court, but I'm wondering about the one you refer to.

Since: Apr 07

Philadelphia, PA

#34 Nov 26, 2009
Joe in Novato wrote:
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hey RGD, do you have a link to the specific article you're referring to? I've read many about the case in Judge Walker's court, but I'm wondering about the one you refer to.
Yes, here is the topix link as I imagine that's the "most stable" source to provide; I hope it works:

http://www.topix.com/news/gay/2009/11/gay-on-...

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