Pastors worried about Pagan festival

Pastors worried about Pagan festival

There are 31 comments on the WPTV Local News story from Jun 3, 2013, titled Pastors worried about Pagan festival. In it, WPTV Local News reports that:

Some church leaders in Pahokee are upset about a Pagan Summer Solstice Festival planned for later in June.

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Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#1 Jun 3, 2013
A protest is in order.

It sounds racist! And the NAACP should step in and forbid it.

Those folks can do it too.I saw them do it before.

“Dance with Fire- Boycott BS”

Since: Apr 07

Moon

#2 Jun 4, 2013
I read about this a few days ago. Most struck by the absurdity and irony of the claim that Lake OKEECHOBEE in a town called PAHOKEE is an inappropriate place to hold an earth-based spiritual festival.

It's also strange that they are more concerned with "magic spells" and (oh the horror) "belly dancing" than they are about the kind of stuff that goes around Palm Beach for spring break and all.
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#3 Jun 4, 2013
The whole thing sounds lude.
Any tickets?
Ken Ra

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Jun 4, 2013
I like the pastors comments. He doesn't like it and he is going to ignore it. This is a wisdom more people should practice. Including some of our own.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#5 Jun 5, 2013
So here's my question (I'm not looking to stir anyone up) but isn't it kind of pushing the whole "be silent" out of the picture? We are witches and pagans, there's a reason we are silent about what we do, granted I live In the bible belt so I have very little choice, but our spirituality is honestly offensive to masses. It isn't shame or anything like that its for our protection. If I'm wrong please clarify this for me.

“Dance with Fire- Boycott BS”

Since: Apr 07

Moon

#6 Jun 5, 2013
I think both your point of view and theirs are equally acceptable. Having been around some who make their Craft into a photo-op every chance they get, simply having a Pagan festival doesn't really rate high on the out-of-the-closet meter these days.

Actually, I would say a festival is a great microcosm of the Pagan community as a whole. The organizers have to be out in the open, as do any presenters or entertainers. However, going to another town where nobody 'muggle' knows you and reveling in the festivities as just another attendee where only Paypal knows your legal name is a great way to anonymously cut loose.

Just in this day and age if you are trying to be really anonymous, don't give your consent to any photogs cause it'll be on Facebook by 8am Monday morning. Also, masks, face paint and costumes are very common in these events anyway.

“Dance with Fire- Boycott BS”

Since: Apr 07

Moon

#7 Jun 5, 2013
To clarify, this one appears to be at a resort, most of these types of events are in some sort of 'closed/private' venue where only other attendees will be around.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#8 Jun 5, 2013
CShine wrote:
I read about this a few days ago. Most struck by the absurdity and irony of the claim that Lake OKEECHOBEE in a town called PAHOKEE is an inappropriate place to hold an earth-based spiritual festival.
It's also strange that they are more concerned with "magic spells" and (oh the horror) "belly dancing" than they are about the kind of stuff that goes around Palm Beach for spring break and all.
Spring break right of passage.. A bunch of Pagans and their friends getting together for a festival.. Well you just never know what we Pagans might be up to.. You know all day chants and networking. And lets face it the face painting.. Other wild events of the drum circle or the workshops on almost every subject concerning a Pagan done in a sober atmosphere of learning.

Where as a bunch of beered up drunken college coeds are the epitome of family values../Sarcasm

I think this pastor needs to get his priorities straight.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#9 Jun 5, 2013
Son Of Ares wrote:
So here's my question (I'm not looking to stir anyone up) but isn't it kind of pushing the whole "be silent" out of the picture? We are witches and pagans, there's a reason we are silent about what we do, granted I live In the bible belt so I have very little choice, but our spirituality is honestly offensive to masses. It isn't shame or anything like that its for our protection. If I'm wrong please clarify this for me.
With out attacking your POV..

But the time to be silent is over in the 21rst century. Yes, I live in the bible belt as well.. But if asked. Haven't been yet. I will be honest about my beliefs.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#10 Jun 5, 2013
I would never deny my Goddesses and God, but doesn't it seem a bit over the edge to be so open with our practices? I'm a metal worker who is employed by a great Christian but I don't doubt for a second if my co workers knew my beliefs I'd be looking for a job immediately.

even the temples of old closed their doors during rituals, not of fear but because its not for the world to know, guys I hate to say it but we need the ignorant masses to keep marching right down the road they choose because with out them our belief system would become the new mega church, I don't want to be told how to worship, I like to feel that blessing my own way.

just think about it a bit.

“Dance with Fire- Boycott BS”

Since: Apr 07

Moon

#11 Jun 5, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
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Spring break right of passage.. A bunch of Pagans and their friends getting together for a festival.. Well you just never know what we Pagans might be up to.. You know all day chants and networking. And lets face it the face painting.. Other wild events of the drum circle or the workshops on almost every subject concerning a Pagan done in a sober atmosphere of learning.
Where as a bunch of beered up drunken college coeds are the epitome of family values../Sarcasm
I think this pastor needs to get his priorities straight.
Yeah, well, you know, the good Christians in Pahokee probably proper off of all the good old fashioned sinnin' going on at spring break. I mean, it's so much easier to squawk about belly dancing than worry about actual criminal behavior like date rape. As long as the parents are still paying the bill....

“Dance with Fire- Boycott BS”

Since: Apr 07

Moon

#12 Jun 5, 2013
Son Of Ares wrote:
I would never deny my Goddesses and God, but doesn't it seem a bit over the edge to be so open with our practices? I'm a metal worker who is employed by a great Christian but I don't doubt for a second if my co workers knew my beliefs I'd be looking for a job immediately.
even the temples of old closed their doors during rituals, not of fear but because its not for the world to know, guys I hate to say it but we need the ignorant masses to keep marching right down the road they choose because with out them our belief system would become the new mega church, I don't want to be told how to worship, I like to feel that blessing my own way.
just think about it a bit.
You are entitled to your opinion and how open or not you prefer to be for yourself. But you are asking that the toothpaste be put back in after the tube's already been squeezed.
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#13 Jun 5, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
<quoted text>
With out attacking your POV..
But the time to be silent is over in the 21rst century. Yes, I live in the bible belt as well.. But if asked. Haven't been yet. I will be honest about my beliefs.
Honesty is a good trademark of a man these days!

Good for you!

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#14 Jun 5, 2013
Suppose I hadn't thought about it in an after the fact sense.
well, I'll say this CShine, you've made the forum worth checking out. Thank you.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#15 Jun 6, 2013
Son Of Ares wrote:
I would never deny my Goddesses and God, but doesn't it seem a bit over the edge to be so open with our practices? I'm a metal worker who is employed by a great Christian but I don't doubt for a second if my co workers knew my beliefs I'd be looking for a job immediately.
even the temples of old closed their doors during rituals, not of fear but because its not for the world to know, guys I hate to say it but we need the ignorant masses to keep marching right down the road they choose because with out them our belief system would become the new mega church, I don't want to be told how to worship, I like to feel that blessing my own way.
just think about it a bit.
Y'know, I understand where you're coming from on this but from where I'm sitting I see what has been let out to be a necessity, the transparency on it's face sounds like we're breaking the "Be Silent" part but other than a few circles that I've seen on Video, most actual spellwork or deep study occurs in Private, and that is Silence to me. We "had" to open up, too much silence equals mistrust, and mistrust swiftly becomes fear, and that isn't good because what people fear, they try to destroy.

“Dance with Fire- Boycott BS”

Since: Apr 07

Moon

#16 Jun 6, 2013
My bi-racial friend and I were talking about a similar thing last night re: living in a small town. She said something that struck me, trying to use 'nice words' like "spiritual ceremony" instead of Wiccan Circle to keep from offending people is like trying to appear more white than black just to keep from offending people.

Just be who you are. That doesn't mean every person comes into your home and joins your coven or rituals, but it the problem of the person so easily offended, not yours for being you.

However, I would mitigate that heroic stance just a little if said easily offended person was wielding a shotgun or pitchfork. Just saying. Written LTE's and blogs and group open rituals are better ways of building understanding and bridges than circling nude in your yard with-in your neighbors' view.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#17 Jun 6, 2013
CShine wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, well, you know, the good Christians in Pahokee probably proper off of all the good old fashioned sinnin' going on at spring break. I mean, it's so much easier to squawk about belly dancing than worry about actual criminal behavior like date rape. As long as the parents are still paying the bill....
Yeah, I think that is how the pastor feels as well.. All those warm fuzzy feelings of family values. Nothing says it like beered up drunken college kids and criminal acts. Because after all mommy and daddy are paying.. Family values at its best.. AYEP... That is what it says alright../sarcasm and heavy irony...

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#18 Jun 6, 2013
And Ares no worries. I am open with out it being in any one face. if asked. Sure i will say exactly what my religion is. A little about what i believe. But at the same time I am not posting flyers in the local town hall either or standing in the community center getting into people faces.

When the wife and I came down here.We moved here to take care of her mother. The realtor after trying to get us to go to her church. I finally told her I was not christian and what the wife and I believed.

her only response was that having grown up in the area she could not imagine how any one could not be christian.

Which gave me a good idea as to what I could expect from others. Yes, it would take a lot of patient explaining with out proselytizing. Something that i can be very good at doing.

However, there is a small Pagan community here as well as a UU Church not to far away. It is not like I am the only Wiccan/Pagan in the area either.
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#19 Jun 6, 2013
Kathwynn wrote:
And Ares no worries. I am open with out it being in any one face. if asked. Sure i will say exactly what my religion is. A little about what i believe. But at the same time I am not posting flyers in the local town hall either or standing in the community center getting into people faces.
When the wife and I came down here.We moved here to take care of her mother. The realtor after trying to get us to go to her church. I finally told her I was not christian and what the wife and I believed.
her only response was that having grown up in the area she could not imagine how any one could not be christian.
Which gave me a good idea as to what I could expect from others. Yes, it would take a lot of patient explaining with out proselytizing. Something that i can be very good at doing.
However, there is a small Pagan community here as well as a UU Church not to far away. It is not like I am the only Wiccan/Pagan in the area either.
Well numbers don't really matter.
As long as you are free to practice your faith openly with others.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#20 Jun 7, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>Well numbers don't really matter.
As long as you are free to practice your faith openly with others.
Still trolling I see..

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