forgive them... them would be all of them. what makes you presume it was the romans and not the jews or somebody might claim otherwise I say since it s not specified "them" means all of them involved. You insist on giving to Jesus a very narrow perspective pretending to know what was on Jesus own mind exactly .<quoted text>
Please allow me to make Shamma shiver more about Luke 23:34, which is a forgery added in later as it cannot be found in ancient manuscripts and ancient authorities omit that verse.
"Luke 23:34 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
34 And Jesus said,Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.[a] And they cast lots to divide his garments.
Luke 23:34 Other ancient authorities omit the sentence And Jesus ... what they do"
"Luke 23:34 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
[[34 Then Jesus said,Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing.]][a] And they cast lots to divide his clothing.
Luke 23:34 Other ancient authorities lack the sentence Then Jesus ... what they are doing"
"Luke 23:34 New Living Translation (NLT)
34 Jesus said,Father, forgive them, for they dont know what they are doing.[a] And the soldiers gambled for his clothes by throwing dice.[b]
23:34a This sentence is not included in many ancient manuscripts."
"Luke 23:34 New King James Version (NKJV)
34 Then Jesus said,Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.[a]
And they divided His garments and cast lots.
Luke 23:34 NU-Text brackets the first sentence as a later addition."
"Luke 23:34 New Century Version (NCV)
34 Jesus said,Father, forgive them, because they dont know what they are doing.[a]
The soldiers threw lots to decide who would get his clothes.
23:34 Jesus ... doing. Some Greek copies do not have this first part of verse 34."
On a lighter note, it is quite obvious that Jesus was asking God to forgive the Romans. Wasn't asking for Jews to be forgiven. Right? Agree?
I really didnt understand what was your point about the verse ? the what they are doing?what they do? what are ou trying to do ?? whether included or not in old mansuscripts whether added or omitted what you see now is what you get.
you take it or leave it. Why are youi trying to impose that islam changing the scriptures based on speculations only i s good but the scriptures being added things or omitted was somthing bad?
why is what islam does good against the same thing islam accuses chrsitianity of it being bad?
I say ... take it or leave it.. dont drag it too much 1400 islam has done to chrstianity and jesus as much as thins: Nothing!!!
still struggling to convince christians that the christia CHRIST IS false while the islamic Isa is good??
how good??? better than mohamed??
you cant have too gods my dear ..or can you ?
like JEsus NO OTHER.
now read a bit more of Paul John and Judas gospel and the uncountable pages that have been written about Jesus and come and tell me what islam is all about after all.
please keep in mind that no matter the exasperation I do find that islamic struggle to appropriate JEsus funny. and.. very guilty . and utterly suspicious.
and weird . and bizarre
Islam should not struggle to prove itself right by claiming chrsitianity wrong. Islam should prove itself right because it is.
but is it?
now tell me about Christ and Luke and Mark and Mathew and and.
take it or leave it.!! that's the answer to islam's struggle.