Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 230677 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#194929 Nov 11, 2013
MAAT wrote:
psalm 2:12 actual meaning of nashku var (G-d is building a nation with specific people hence a jealous god and all the struggles):
He decrees to be His first-born son (ben), His anointed ruler
over Tzion. HaShem will give the nations to the ends of the earth
as an inheritance to His designated son. The rulers of these nations
must learn to serve HaShem with trembling and to kiss the ground
before His feet when His anointed king rules over them with
an iron sceptre.
___
> psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
> 12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way,
> when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that
> put their trust in him.
[Shmuel] In Psalm two (11-12) we read:
And now, kings, you be wise
Take heed, judges (rulers) of the earth:
Serve (worship) HaShem with awe
And hail Him with trembling
Kiss the ground (Nashku var)
lest He be angry
and [your] way (course) be doomed
For His anger may blaze in a moment.
Praiseworthy (blessed) are all that take refuge in Him.
Some mistakenly translate "Nashku var" as "Yearn for purity"
or "Kiss sincerely"; and others mistakenly translate it as "Kiss
[the] son". But, this phrase actually means to kiss the ground
in front of the ruler's feet as an expression of doing obeisance
to him. This common practice in the ancient Near East is the source
of the present-day expression "to worship the ground he or she
walks on". The word "bar" is a Semitic word meaning "ground"
or "land" or "countryside". We find "bar" used in Eeov 39.4,
for example, to connote the open "ground" or "countryside".
[Moshe S]
> Sorry Shmuel, just wrong. Different vowels and for a noun that
> is significant. The word there doesn't mean 'ground''Sadah bar'
> means 'an uncultavated field''Var' in that verse is the same meaning.
[Shmuel]? Hebrew nouns often use either the Kamatz or
the PataH vowel signs without changing the meaning of the word.
For example, the Hebrew word meaning "grain" or "wheat" (bar)
is found with both the Kamatz and the PataH vowel signs
throughout the Hebrew scriptures. So also, the Hebrew word
meaning "open field" or "open ground" or "prairie" (bar) is also
"spelled" with either the Kamatz or the PataH. Check out
any detailed Hebrew dictionary for verification.
While "s'deh bur" could be translated as "a fallow field" or as
"uncultivated soil", the Hebrew word "vabar" in Eeyov 39.4
means "in the open ground / field / countryside" (i.e. in the wilds").
But, "nashku var" is the Hebrew equivalent of the Assyrian
"nushshuku kakkara" meaning "kiss the ground".[See Haupt
in AJSL, XIX, 134]
____
> Again here there is attempts to alter the Hebrew. Supposition and
> imagination are enemies of Truth and only lead to error and
> conjecture.
[Shmuel] Right, many attempt to alter the Hebrew text by claiming
that the Aramaic word for "son" (which is not found elsewhere in
the Psalms) was inserted here; and others mistakenly claim it means
"Yearn for purity" which is not parallel in meaning to the two
preceeding lines and does not really fit the context.
> Apparently you are totally unaware that this psalm was written in
> HEBREW not ARAMAIC and yet you try to translate the words
> as if they were in ARAMAIC.
[Shmuel]?? I just indicated that ARAMAIC was not used in this psalm.
*All* the words used here are "in HEBREW".
"Kiss the son", In Hebrew and Aramaic, will be Nashku ben". Nobody but Christian scholars would write Nashku Bar to mean 'Kiss the Son".

I believe that 'Bar means son in Aramaic", is misinformation, because Ben is used for son in Hebrew and Aramaic.

Giving it an Arabic touch, it will be Nashku Bin". lol!

Kiss the ground or fall down in obeisance, would be a better interpretation. The Pope does a lot of Nashku bar, where ever he lands. That cannot be considered as "Kissing the alleged Son".

Interesting point. Good night
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#194930 Nov 11, 2013
it is too obvious that this whole world, has become to normal with the indoctrination with hasatan, baal hamolech and halooseefer.

you are all too satisfied, with hell and death. as no amount of air conditioning from the subtle beasts of the fields, is going to cool the plague of your globally warmed behinds from G-D.

nor shall you cure, the plagues of mass murders with more of your idolatry with the subtle bests of fields. as long as hasatan, baal hamolech, and halooseefer were sent here to help you all as an enemy of G-D.

nor shall any amount, of hellth care from the subtle beasts. cure all your health difficulties, your about to get for being against G-D. neither the quran, nor any other new testament, is going to save any of you not here in TheTorah from G-D again.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#194931 Nov 11, 2013
if it is not truly from G-D, here in TheTorah today. then it is not meant, for your salvation here in TheTorah still again.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#194932 Nov 11, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are illiterate Maat!
Your post does not make any sense.
The facts of Gods relationship with man on earth is a reality!
Salvation is the works of God!
Ordained by God for our sake.
God is the warrior not Moses who triumphs gloriously over Pharaoh's armies at the sea ( Exod 15 ).
Salvation is something to stand and watch, for "The Lord will fight for you; and you need only be still" ( Exod 14:13 ).
"In repentance and rest is your salvation; in quietness and trust is your strength" summons Isaiah ( 30:15 ).
The content of God's salvation includes personal and national deliverance from one's enemies, deliverance from slavery ( Deut 24:18 ), ongoing protection and preservation from evil (Ps. 121), escape from death ( Psalm 68:19 ), healing ( Psalm 69:29 ; Jer 17:14 ), inheritance of land, descendants, and long life.
Jesus death on the cross and His resurrection from the dead gained victory over the enemies of God and brought salvation to the righteous people over Satan's attempt to destroy the soul of man.
You are ignorant of the Hebrew Scriptures, Maat!
That is why your post does not make any sense.
Did i ever claim the NT making sense!

But at least you were inspired to look at the actual meaning in the roots.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#194933 Nov 11, 2013
That is apart from this glitch, which alas made the attempt fruitless, since it s unrelated and unsupported:

Jesus death on the cross and His resurrection from the dead gained victory over the enemies of God and brought salvation to the righteous people over Satan's attempt to destroy the soul of man.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#194934 Nov 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello,
God does not have a son.
God is not the father of your lord Jesus. God is the Father of many. Please cut the above crap out.
What you have is a Bedlam from Bethlehem.


Angels, persons and things can reveal to us something about God. But God alone can reveal God!

It takes God to reveal Himself to mankind . It takes God to reveal Himself to mankind under created circumstances congenial to human understanding. What better way for the eternal revealer to be revealed to mankind on earth than by clothing His self-expression in human flesh!

In Jesus, His eternal Son, the revealer becomes also the revealed for us. This is why the Holy Bible speaks of Jesus as God manifested in the flesh.

In turn, the revealed Son becomes the revealer of the Father among mankind. "Trust in God; trust also in me," says Jesus (John 14:1). In inviting His hearers to trust Him, Jesus is not subtly deflecting trust away from God; rather He is simply affirming that God, forever Most High, is revealing Himself through Jesus by His presence in Jesus.

God, the revealer and the revealed. God creates the world, appoints prophets, sends Scriptures and provides laws for human guidance. But can He Himself enter His own creation to be with us? Would this not be unworthy of Him? Would He not demean Himself thereby? Would not His entry into the world conflict with His sovereignty, cloud the brightness of His glory, and make Him less than greater?

God indeed is greater. To Him alone belong the kingdom, the power, and the glory. He alone is sovereign. But, we may ask, what is the nature of God's sovereignty? And how does God Himself manifest the nature of His sovereignty so that humanity too can begin to understand the nature of His sovereignty? Stated otherwise, are we to understand God's sovereignty simply as the sovereignty of any earthly potentate magnified to its ultimate degree?

Understanding of His sovereignty; that His thoughts are not our thoughts and our ways are not His ways, even as God has declared through His prophet Isaiah (Isaiah 55:8)? Is it possible that God not only answers but even anticipates the yearning of this prophet: "Oh, that You would rend the heavens and come down...!"?(Isaiah 64:1)

According to the Bible, God is love. In Biblical perspective, by entering into this world, God does not demean Himself; rather He exalts Himself. By His visitation on earth, He does not cloud His glory; rather, He magnifies it among mankind. By His presence among us, He does not become the lesser; rather, He becomes the greater for our greater praise. By being not only above us but with us in Jesus Immanuel, He not only acts in conformity with Himself; even more, He is being Himself and He is being what He will be.

Finally, let us briefly summarize the Biblical meaning of Jesus as the Son of God, bearing in mind that 1. "the Lord our God, the Lord is one" (Deuteronomy 6:4) and 2. the Holy Injil itself must be read to grasp the fuller meaning of Jesus' Sonship through His servanthood:

1. The unique Son of God is of the Father eternally; by Him God created and sustains the universe. As God's self-expression He is truly God.

2. Because God loved us, the unique Son of God entered time and space, was born of the Virgin Mary and was called Jesus the Messiah. As God's self-expression on earth in the form of man He is also truly human.

3. The Son shares the attributes of the Father; He is like Him in powerful works and loving self-giving.

4. The Son has been sent by/from the Father as His representative to carry out His work of revelation and salvation.

5. The Son is the Father's personal message, God expressing Himself and His love in a way that can be seen and heard and comprehended by humanity.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#194935 Nov 11, 2013
MAAT wrote:
That is apart from this glitch, which alas made the attempt fruitless, since it s unrelated and unsupported:
Jesus death on the cross and His resurrection from the dead gained victory over the enemies of God and brought salvation to the righteous people over Satan's attempt to destroy the soul of man.
Your posting still show you are ignorant of the Holy Hebrew Scriptures.

Angels, persons and things can reveal to us something about God. But God alone can reveal God!

It takes God to reveal Himself to mankind . It takes God to reveal Himself to mankind under created circumstances congenial to human understanding. What better way for the eternal revealer to be revealed to mankind on earth than by clothing His self-expression in human flesh!

In Jesus, His eternal Son, the revealer becomes also the revealed for us. This is why the Holy Bible speaks of Jesus as God manifested in the flesh.

In turn, the revealed Son becomes the revealer of the Father among mankind. "Trust in God; trust also in me," says Jesus (John 14:1). In inviting His hearers to trust Him, Jesus is not subtly deflecting trust away from God; rather He is simply affirming that God, forever Most High, is revealing Himself through Jesus by His presence in Jesus.

God, the revealer and the revealed. God creates the world, appoints prophets, sends Scriptures and provides laws for human guidance. But can He Himself enter His own creation to be with us? Would this not be unworthy of Him? Would He not demean Himself thereby? Would not His entry into the world conflict with His sovereignty, cloud the brightness of His glory, and make Him less than greater?

God indeed is greater. To Him alone belong the kingdom, the power, and the glory. He alone is sovereign. But, we may ask, what is the nature of God's sovereignty? And how does God Himself manifest the nature of His sovereignty so that humanity too can begin to understand the nature of His sovereignty? Stated otherwise, are we to understand God's sovereignty simply as the sovereignty of any earthly potentate magnified to its ultimate degree?

Understanding of His sovereignty; that His thoughts are not our thoughts and our ways are not His ways, even as God has declared through His prophet Isaiah (Isaiah 55:8)? Is it possible that God not only answers but even anticipates the yearning of this prophet: "Oh, that You would rend the heavens and come down...!"?(Isaiah 64:1)

According to the Bible, God is love. In Biblical perspective, by entering into this world, God does not demean Himself; rather He exalts Himself. By His visitation on earth, He does not cloud His glory; rather, He magnifies it among mankind. By His presence among us, He does not become the lesser; rather, He becomes the greater for our greater praise. By being not only above us but with us in Jesus Immanuel, He not only acts in conformity with Himself; even more, He is being Himself and He is being what He will be.

Finally, let us briefly summarize the Biblical meaning of Jesus as the Son of God, bearing in mind that 1. "the Lord our God, the Lord is one" (Deuteronomy 6:4) and 2. the Holy Injil itself must be read to grasp the fuller meaning of Jesus' Sonship through His servanthood:

1. The unique Son of God is of the Father eternally; by Him God created and sustains the universe. As God's self-expression He is truly God.

2. Because God loved us, the unique Son of God entered time and space, was born of the Virgin Mary and was called Jesus the Messiah. As God's self-expression on earth in the form of man He is also truly human.

3. The Son shares the attributes of the Father; He is like Him in powerful works and loving self-giving.

4. The Son has been sent by/from the Father as His representative to carry out His work of revelation and salvation.

5. The Son is the Father's personal message, God expressing Himself and His love in a way that can be seen and heard and comprehended by humanity.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#194937 Nov 11, 2013
MAAT wrote:
That is apart from this glitch, which alas made the attempt fruitless, since it s unrelated and unsupported:
Jesus death on the cross and His resurrection from the dead gained victory over the enemies of God and brought salvation to the righteous people over Satan's attempt to destroy the soul of man.
rabbee: but that was not the main theme of Adam, being put to death by G-D. Adam was put to death, because there was nobody here in TheTorah about 2000 years ago. and this silly world, that only pretends to know scripture. can't figure out what happens next, after Who G-D calls Adam is put to death here in TheTorah. do you know the next major event, after G-D has Adam put to death?
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#194938 Nov 11, 2013
MAAT wrote:
Maat, please write out your response because I am having a hard time opening up your link.
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#194939 Nov 11, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you getting desperate?
As a stand in for the early risers.
Judaism would lay the focus on thanks.
Why muslims pray or why christians pray...
they have a lot to ask i suppose.
In the meantime
Janis Joplin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =C-GFqhCq2HAXX
Thank him for what, all the suffering that he has bestowed upon mankind?

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#194940 Nov 11, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Are the followers and the guests of the bridegroom fasting, MAAT?
So far, I have not seen them doing so.
No and that is rather the point inapparently reinstating funerary festivities as a norm. Flirting also with this idea in the question of the dead women marrying.
One should at least eat fish with the dead,'resurrected Jesus did so afterall. The transfiguration, rather then the transsubstantiation.(Also following greek ideas of three souls)
But resurrection is not as substantial as claimed. See last quote
And it caused confusion, about such trifles as last days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_p ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_ ...
various ideas

Jesus seemed to have been in the position held by some Pharisees, as illustrated by his response to a question regarding marriage at the resurrection (Matthew 22:23-32, Mark 12:18-27 and Luke 20:27-40).
In Acts of the Apostles, the Apostles and Paul of Tarsus argued in support of the doctrine: 4:2, 17:32, 23:6-8, 24:15, 24:21. In 1 Corinthians 15:13 Paul argues: "If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised." 2 Timothy 2:18 warns of some "who have wandered away from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some." Additional verses are Romans 8:11; 1 Corinthians 6:14; 15:12-13; 2 Corinthians 4:14; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2; Philippians 3:21; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-16; 2 Timothy 2:11; Hebrews 6:2.

According to the Summa Theologica, spiritual beings that have been restored to glorified bodies will have the following basic qualities:[citation needed]
Impassibility (immortal / painless)— immunity from death and pain
Subtility (permeability)— freedom from restraint by matter
Agility — obedience to spirit with relation to movement and space (the ability to move through space and time with the speed of thought)
Clarity — resplendent beauty of the soul manifested in the body (as when Jesus was transfigured on Mount Tabor)[19]

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#194941 Nov 11, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank him for what, all the suffering that he has bestowed upon mankind?
Aren't you supposed to say: certain writers ascribing events to a figment of imagination in the psychotic fiction that this figment rules them.

Most ancient cultures have some myths that explain death and disease as a scheme by the gods.
The flood was the break-off point of people living forever and the short life humans have now.
In judaism it got a moral significance. Humans taking the blame.
And uncoupled from it's former function as an allegory explaining why people die.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#194942 Nov 11, 2013
MAAT wrote:
That is apart from this glitch, which alas made the attempt fruitless, since it s unrelated and unsupported:
Jesus death on the cross and His resurrection from the dead gained victory over the enemies of God and brought salvation to the righteous people over Satan's attempt to destroy the soul of man.
rabbee: must of been an awful lot of enemies of G-D, in those days. for G-D to have Adam put to death on a tree, because there was nobody here in TheTorah then.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#194943 Nov 11, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
Maat, please write out your response because I am having a hard time opening up your link.
It is not the response but a link to the post you wrote.
rightclick on the link. Maybe a doubleclick is needed.

If you want to post a number: rightclick on the number (see above post),cntr c,
place cursorposition, cntr v.

My actual response was the quote starting with Avisenna/Ibn Sina.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#194944 Nov 11, 2013
what i even really weirder, is how could you have a holocaust? when there was nobody here in TheTorah, around the time adam and his mate arrived between 1944 and 1948.

and the korean and vietnam war, could not of happened with nobody here in TheTorah. they must of been the figment, of nobodies imagination here in TheTorah.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#194945 Nov 11, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
Aren't you supposed to say: certain writers ascribing events to a figment of imagination in the psychotic fiction that this figment rules them.
Most ancient cultures have some myths that explain death and disease as a scheme by the gods.
The flood was the break-off point of people living forever and the short life humans have now.
In judaism it got a moral significance. Humans taking the blame.
And uncoupled from it's former function as an allegory explaining why people die.
rabbee: humans here in, TheTorah where? i have not found any body yet, defined as humans here in TheTorah.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#194946 Nov 11, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank him for what, all the suffering that he has bestowed upon mankind?
rabbee: mankind where? when adam can't find, any body here in TheTorah again. lot of subtle taking critters, but their is nobody that can be described as mankind as described in TheTorah with G-D.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#194947 Nov 11, 2013
your all just making this too easy to spot all the subtle talking critters, not here in TheTorah again from HaShem G-D.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#194948 Nov 11, 2013
True Guidance and Light series (5)

The Promised Prophet of the Bible By: Munqidh Bin Mahmoud Assaqqar, PhD. Part-9

CH-3. THE EXPECTED KING

In 63, B.C.E. Jerusalem & Palestine were under occupation of the pagan Romans, to start a new period of torture, abuse and suffering for the children of Israel. The people who had waited long for a great savior to return the lost kingdom and the ruling power to them.

The children of Israel awaited the fulfillment of the prophecies given by Jacob, Moses and David and other prophets regarding the "expected prophet". They had no doubt in the "Victorious king and prophet" appearance, the prophet who will lead his followers to the glory of life and the happiness of the hereafter.

Therefore, when the great Jesus (PBUH) came, and when they saw the miracles that God allowed him to perform, many of them followed him (PBUH), hoping that he is the "victorious great prophet", the "savior prophet". This is a fact clearly understood by those who are acquainted with the sayings of the Jews who were contemporary with Jesus (PBUH).

The Holy Scriptures told us about some of those who awaited the "victorious expected king". Simeon was one of them, described by Luke "And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Spirit was upon him." (Luke: 2:25), Simeon was one of those who were awaiting salvation.

Nathaniel, who openly confessed to Jesus (PBUH) about his feelings and his thoughts, was one of them, "Nathaniel answered and said to him, Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel. Jesus answered and said to him, Because I said to you, I saw you under the fig tree, do you believe? You shall see greater things than these." (John: 1/49- 50)

When the rumors that Jesus (PBUH) was crucified spread, some of them were very sad because the salvation they hoped for had ended. When Jesus (PBUH)–disguised- appeared to two of the disciples
after resurrection they were surprised,

"And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that you have one to another, as you walk, and are sad? One of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Are you the only visitor in Jerusalem, and has not known the things that happened there in these days? And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done." (Luke: 24/17-21).

They were awaiting the salvation to come through him, as foretold in the scriptures of the Torah about the coming of the "victorious king" that will free his people, and lead them to victory. In the contrary, they just heard of his crucifixion.

(Contd.)
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#194949 Nov 11, 2013
The disciples said to Jesus (PBUH) after the resurrection, "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, will you at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, it is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father has put in his own power." (Acts: 1/6-7). He meant that it is not the time for the "expected king”.

Awad Samaan said: " those who examined the relationship between the disciples, apostles and Jesus PBUH), will find that they only considered him as a man…they were waiting for the messiah, but the messiah, according to the ideas inherited from their ancestors, was nothing more than an excellent messenger sent by God.1 (Christianity on the scale, by Muhammad Ezzat Al-Tahtawy,(27-29))

The people of Israel, who waited long for the coming of the "victorious great prophet", thought that John the Baptist was the expected messiah " And as the people were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he was the Christ, or not; " (Luke: 3/15).

These crowds, who were waiting for salvation, when they saw Jesus (PBUH), they said about him what they have said before about John the Baptist "And said unto the woman, now we believe, not because of your saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Savior of the world." (John: 4/42).

Andrews said to his brother Simon, "He first found his own brother Simon, and said unto him, we have found the Messiah, which is, being interpreted, the Christ." (John: 1/41). He, Andrews,- as the priest Al-Khodary said:- "By this sentence, he meant nothing more than what a pious Jew, who awaited the arrival of the messiah to save and free Israel from the foreign slavery then refresh the spiritual life ". 1 (History of the Christian ideology, by Priest Hanna Gerges Al-Khodary, PhD.(1/269)

(Contd.)

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