Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256358 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Reverend Jones

Kansas City, MO

#189068 Sep 15, 2013
Sucker wrote:
You would be wise to take your own advice.
You retarded kokksûcker sonovabîtch would be wise to do society a favor and jump from a bridge.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#189069 Sep 15, 2013
It's very interesting to watch Jimmie tap dance after his own twisted logic and ideas have painted himself into a corner. It is interesting to watch what a "supposed" special prophet of God is willing to do when he finds himself in a situation like this.

It is interesting to watch a special Prophet of God become evasive, and sometimes even downright dishonest. The guy is even willing to lie about people seeing him glow blue if he thinks that it will get people to believe his claims. So what does that say right there? Nothing more than what everybody already knew about him anyway.

I would actually just leave him alone if he didn't trash everybody else and say that everybody in the world is wrong except for him. Even I don't say that, for as critical as I can sometimes be. That's the annoying part. Nobody pays any attention to him in the real world, so he has to bring a twisted bullhorn to topix and spout off his delusional rants to a captive audience.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#189071 Sep 15, 2013
Reverend Jones wrote:
<quoted text>
You retarded kokksûcker sonovabîtch would be wise to do society a favor and jump from a bridge.
Beat it TommyTurd two toofs. It's a nice day in Pittsfield. Shouldn't you be making your rounds in your ice cream truck selling your sinister popsicle to little kids?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#189072 Sep 15, 2013
Reverend Jones wrote:
<quoted text>
You retarded kokksûcker sonovabîtch would be wise to do society a favor and jump from a bridge.
Just when one thinks it can't get any worse, here comes the biggest pathetic, lying disgrace on this entire forum. And that really says a lot when we are talking about this forum.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#189073 Sep 15, 2013
Jinn wrote:
<quoted text>
Err ... no thanks ... Sucker ...
You've really been pretty lucky that whoever's ip address you are using hasn't rebooted his computer yet. You are sure getting a lot of miles out of the phony Kansas City address.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#189074 Sep 15, 2013
Using phony ip address proxies and multiple sock puppet characters that all talk to each other has to be the most pathetic, dishonest thing that one could possibly do here.

Tommy, even Muslims don't do that. They might twist the Quran into what they need it to be or do a lot of tap dancing, but even they don't resort to behavior as shameful as yours. Not even Alex (Phallics), who lies about being a former priest and has a fetish for penis is as shameful as you are.

You clearly take the cake.
Alex WM

London, UK

#189075 Sep 15, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>My "nasty remark" to Eric concerned his own accusation that I wasn't letting him practice his faith, while your over-the-top smear of me is typical Al-EX bullshit.
This is what you said, dear bigoted antisemitic pagan:
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>Damnit, Jew, I never said that you can't practice your faith as you wish.
Can't not see the bigotry there?
Pathetic butboy.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#189076 Sep 15, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen, ignorant fool
Come and stay here in Singapore. And see how the death sentence has reduced crimes here.
It's kind hard to establish if the low rate of crime in Singapore is due by the death penalty, since the Singapore's laws are full of strict laws plus education through campaign against crime, etc. I'd say the sum of all that have reduced the crime rate.
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>The crime rate is high in the West because death punishment is not given.
You already failed to prove that is the death penalty that has decreased the crime in your country. To get another point I would suggest you to look at U.S.A. There are States that have death sentences and other who don't. Is crime rate significally lower in the countries with death sentence in U.S.A.?
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>The problem is that you have more sympathy for the killer but no sympathy for the one killed by the wretched killer. 
LOL

Me or you?

According to Singapore laws and to yourself a man who has killed lots of people, raped and/or favored the raping, stolen and/or favored the stealing, cheated lots of people, would be sentenced to death or not?

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#189077 Sep 15, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
My take on it is that taking the Lord's name in vain means using his name for one's own personal desires or gains. It is quite possible that this refers the most to people like TV Evangelists who use God's name to make a lot of money. If you think of what the word vain means, this could make a lot of sense.
What vain means is pretty subjective some may agree with what you said some others may take a more extremist view after a rationalization over that commandment. The latters are the Jews who thought that the name of their lord is too holy that an human being is not worth of pronouncing for any whatsoever reason, hence they avoid to put vowels when they write its name or to avoid to pronounce its name at all, they started to use nouns like hashem (the name), adonai (our lord) etc.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#189078 Sep 15, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
What vain means is pretty subjective some may agree with what you said some others may take a more extremist view after a rationalization over that commandment. The latters are the Jews who thought that the name of their lord is too holy that an human being is not worth of pronouncing for any whatsoever reason, hence they avoid to put vowels when they write its name or to avoid to pronounce its name at all, they started to use nouns like hashem (the name), adonai (our lord) etc.
Your statement about not even uttering God's name brings up a very interesting point. There are Eastern and/or Mystic concepts that say the word is not the thing. And it refers to people using words so much and categorizing things, that things that are actually unique are not seen for their uniqueness and instead are seen in terms of their category or the word that one has for it. Transcendentalism also says something similar, where a tree is not really a tree or a tree is not really the concept we have for it, and it's existence and essence is actually something completely independent of our ideas for it. Krishnamurti had an interesting thing to say when he said the moment the child learns the name of the bird, that child will never see that bird again. Despite similarities that things have, everything is actually unique and there are no two identical creatures in nature. So the child will not see that unique bird, he will see his preconceived category for it based on the word he has for it.

So words can be helpful, but they can also throw you off the track, especially if we are talking about an abstract notion such as God. So what was alarmingly interesting about the Jewish concept for God is that God did not give them a name for him, as that would then lead them to have false notions for God or to put God into some sort of category. God identified himself in the most core way that one can by simply calling himself "I am". So if the whole thing is made up and fictional, I found this to be alarmingly wise for the author to choose God as not giving himself a name. It's things like this that make me think twice before I say that the whole thing is nothing but a fairy tale, as you might believe. I wouldn't see an author who is simply making things up being this wise and deep.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#189079 Sep 15, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
That did not answer how your ideas clearly contradict the Torah. Now you are being evasive, which is a minor form of dishonesty. Again, criticizing me is going to do nothing to solve the problem of your ideas clearly contradicting what is written clearly in the Torah. God clearly promised to never repeat the same actions he took in the story of Noah. Either you are wrong, or the Torah is false, but you can't have it both ways. And sweeping it under the rug and hiding this fact by criticizing me is not going to solve the problem.
rabbee: i do not have to answer to any of you, refusing to answer to G-D here in TheTorah. i do not answer, to demons i talk at. the very same demonic mistakes, shall always result in the same precise reply from G-D. G-D is not about to change what happens here in TheTorah, to appease your ignorance and stupidity.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#189081 Sep 15, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
You would be wise to take your own advice.
rabbee: i already have advice from G-D, why would i want my own from you or anyone else? i already gave up, my own advice from this worlds grandmother in 1994. when i decided that G-D'S advice, was better than any of her's or yours.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#189082 Sep 15, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said God is wrong or a delusional lunatic. That would be crazy for me to say. I am clearly saying that YOU are a lunatic, not God. Whether God is a lunatic or you are a lunatic are two completely different situations. Don't try to make them into one.
rabbee: hey! i am only giving to you, the same advice G-D came and gave to me. so you are actually calling G-D and THEIR advice as stupid and loony to you. your making the same mistake i and your grandmother of all did except for your blasphemy, when G-D came to tell me about this all. and thank G-D i was never stupid enough, to blaspheme RUACH HAKODESH as you did.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#189083 Sep 15, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Shamma,
I know that God is not the president of a state. Address the points in the following post and try to refute, if you can. Read my post again.
I would like to comment on those two absurd verses.
John1:1 is a 15th Century forgery.
Wycliffe did the FIRST translation in English in the late 14th Century and this is how he translated John 1:1
"In the bigynnyng was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word."
This means that in the beginning it was only God and God was the only word.
End of the silly word Word!
Now, I wish to comment on John 8:24, in which I find the words 'would die in your sins" extremely absurd.
The Jews believed in God, the prophets, the books, etc., so how could they die in sins if they did not believe that Jesus was the messiah.
The translation "die in your sins", which the Church likes, preferred and promoted is therefore ridiculous and absurd!
This false translation churned out by the Bible Mills has always bothered me. The correct message is given by the following translation only and all the rest are incorrect and rubbish:
"John 8:24 Worldwide English (New Testament)(WE)
24 That is why I said, "You will die doing wrong things." If you do not believe that I am who I said I am, then you will die doing wrong things.'"
Look at this funny translation, which also gives a better picture:
"Yochanan 8:24-25 Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB)
24 I said, therefore, to you that you will go to your mavet in your averos (sins), for if you do not have emunah (faith) that Ani Hu [YESHAYAH 41:4; SHEMOT 3:14-16], you will die in your chatta’im."
It shows THE ABSURD GREEK word 'AVEROS' for SINS and also shows the correct HEBREW word "CHATTA'IM" for doing wrong or mistakes.
You can see how the Church Mills distorted by looking at the absurdities.
End of the story and I can tell you that you will die in your sins if you do not believe in my post above!
Your choice.
You are a dumb ass Muslim!
You are the one that needs to be concerned for your sins.
You blasphemy God in your ignorance by following your desert bandit prophet Muhammad.
This link explains Adam and Eve from scripture of the Quran.
I assure you that you have misrepresented the Quran in your posting.
This link examines the Quran on the matter of Adam and Eve.
Study this link:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/Shar...
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#189084 Sep 15, 2013
Seeker wrote:
It's very interesting to watch Jimmie tap dance after his own twisted logic and ideas have painted himself into a corner. It is interesting to watch what a "supposed" special prophet of God is willing to do when he finds himself in a situation like this.
It is interesting to watch a special Prophet of God become evasive, and sometimes even downright dishonest. The guy is even willing to lie about people seeing him glow blue if he thinks that it will get people to believe his claims. So what does that say right there? Nothing more than what everybody already knew about him anyway.
I would actually just leave him alone if he didn't trash everybody else and say that everybody in the world is wrong except for him. Even I don't say that, for as critical as I can sometimes be. That's the annoying part. Nobody pays any attention to him in the real world, so he has to bring a twisted bullhorn to topix and spout off his delusional rants to a captive audience.
rabbee: you who painted yourself into a corner blaspheming, THE HOLY SPIRIT. is accusing somebody else, of what? call me loony all you want, but i am not that stupid.

rant and rave all you want, you have already lost it.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#189085 Sep 15, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
It's kind hard to establish if the low rate of crime in Singapore is due by the death penalty, since the Singapore's laws are full of strict laws plus education through campaign against crime, etc. I'd say the sum of all that have reduced the crime rate.
<quoted text>
You already failed to prove that is the death penalty that has decreased the crime in your country. To get another point I would suggest you to look at U.S.A. There are States that have death sentences and other who don't. Is crime rate significally lower in the countries with death sentence in U.S.A.?
<quoted text>
LOL
Me or you?
According to Singapore laws and to yourself a man who has killed lots of people, raped and/or favored the raping, stolen and/or favored the stealing, cheated lots of people, would be sentenced to death or not?
Stefano,

Talking to you is really like talking to a fool! We are not counting numbers.

The point is that if you prescribe the death penalty for murderers and drug dealers/traffickers/pusher, the crimes will surely reduce and will be less. People will think a hundred times before doing that.

In your countries, they know they will not be given death sentence. So, they will continue. And if caught, they know they will spend time in jail and can even be released on good behavior.

The drug dealers are no more active here. We have already hanged many of different nationalities, who were involved in drug trafficking. Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand are also doing the same.

And nobody carries fire arms here. If one does and gets caught, he is sent to reside with Jesus.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#189086 Sep 15, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are a dumb ass Muslim!
You are the one that needs to be concerned for your sins.
You blasphemy God in your ignorance by following your desert bandit prophet Muhammad.
This link explains Adam and Eve from scripture of the Quran.
I assure you that you have misrepresented the Quran in your posting.
This link examines the Quran on the matter of Adam and Eve.
Study this link:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/Shar...
Off topic like a true Christian apologist. I wrote this:

"I know that God is not the president of a state. Address the points in the following post and try to refute, if you can. Read my post again.

I would like to comment on those two absurd verses.

John1:1 is a 15th Century forgery.

Wycliffe did the FIRST translation in English in the late 14th Century and this is how he translated John 1:1

"In the bigynnyng was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word."

This means that in the beginning it was only God and God was the only word.

End of the silly word Word!

Now, I wish to comment on John 8:24, in which I find the words 'would die in your sins" extremely absurd.

The Jews believed in God, the prophets, the books, etc., so how could they die in sins if they did not believe that Jesus was the messiah.

The translation "die in your sins", which the Church likes, preferred and promoted is therefore ridiculous and absurd!

This false translation churned out by the Bible Mills has always bothered me. The correct message is given by the following translation only and all the rest are incorrect and rubbish:

"John 8:24 Worldwide English (New Testament)(WE)

24 That is why I said, "You will die doing wrong things." If you do not believe that I am who I said I am, then you will die doing wrong things.'"

Look at this funny translation, which also gives a better picture:

"Yochanan 8:24-25 Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB)

24 I said, therefore, to you that you will go to your mavet in your averos (sins), for if you do not have emunah (faith) that Ani Hu [YESHAYAH 41:4; SHEMOT 3:14-16], you will die in your chatta’im."

It shows THE ABSURD GREEK word 'AVEROS' for SINS and also shows the correct HEBREW word "CHATTA'IM" for doing wrong or mistakes.

You can see how the Church Mills distorted by looking at the absurdities.

End of the story and I can tell you that you will die in your sins if you do not believe in my post above!

Your choice."

Q: How can you expect the Greeks to have the concept of Sin, when they were not given any Scripture, nor was a prophet sent to them and neither a scripture was given?

What is the actual word that the scripturally very poor language Greek used in the NT for Sin? Do you even know? It is AMARTIA.

Another point is that the Church maintains the lies through most of the translations. Truth comes only through some modern daring translators. 
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#189087 Sep 15, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
What vain means is pretty subjective some may agree with what you said some others may take a more extremist view after a rationalization over that commandment. The latters are the Jews who thought that the name of their lord is too holy that an human being is not worth of pronouncing for any whatsoever reason, hence they avoid to put vowels when they write its name or to avoid to pronounce its name at all, they started to use nouns like hashem (the name), adonai (our lord) etc.
rabbee: invoking TheName of G-D, when you are not really on The-Side of G-D - is all vanity. even Abe Lincoln, knew this. with all the G-D is on our side, oh now HE isn't cause G-D is on our side stuff. while the atheist claim, there is no G-D on our side.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#189088 Sep 15, 2013
Adam

The Man of Dust, the Man from Heaven

The Fall of Adam and Eve in the Qur’an

Convincing atheists, humanists, evolutionists, naturalists and agnostics of the authenticity of the Biblical story of Adam and Eve is no easy task, but fortunately in Muslim evangelism the issue is not in dispute. The Qur’an describes both the creation of Adam and Eve as well as their transgression and fall in very similar terms to those found in the Bible and Muslims not only recognise the story but even regard Adam as one of the great prophets of God. The narrative, like so many of the brief biographical records of the Old Testament prophets and patriarchs, is very sketchy in the Qur’an and lacking in detail, but it is sufficient to establish much common ground between Christians and Muslims on the subject.

Adam was created from an ‘alaq, a clot of blood (Surah 96:2), and was taught the nature of all things (Surah 2:31). Both he and his wife Eve were placed in al-Jannat, the Garden, and told to eat freely of all the bountiful fruits therein save one tree which they were not to approach lest they ran into harm and wrongdoing (Surah 7:35). When Allah commanded all the angels of heaven to bow down to Adam they did except Iblis, the Devil, who refused to do so. When challenged on his disobedience he replied that he would not bow down to a creature moulded from mud and clay (Surah 15:29-33). For this he was cast out of heaven and became ash-Shaytaan, Satan the Devil. He then appeared to them to tempt them into sin and unbelief. The narrative continues:

Then Satan whispered an evil suggestion to them, to show them clearly their shame that had been hidden from them and said, "Your Lord has only forbidden you this tree lest you should become angels or such beings as live for ever." And he swore to them both: "Surely I am a sincere adviser to you." Surah 7:20-21

The Qur’an does not say how Eve was created, nor does it point out that it was Eve alone who was tempted by the devil. The story, however, compares with the Biblical record in all its essentials, especially their fall which is recorded in the following passage:

Then Satan made them slip from it, and caused them to depart from the state they were in. And We said "Get Down, all of you with enmity towards each other. On the earth there will be a dwelling place for you for a time." Surah 2:36

Adam, however, relented towards his Lord who thereafter taught him words of inspiration. The command to "Get down!" is repeated in verse 38 where Allah commands "all of you," meaning the whole human race, to leave the Garden with the promise that when guidance comes from Allah, those who follow it will have nothing to fear. The Qur’an follows the Bible in declaring that Adam and Eve fell by eating of the forbidden tree. Yusuf Ali, the well-known Muslim translator of the Qur’an, says in a footnote to this passage that as the plural of the Arabic word habata, meaning to fall down, is used in the verse quoted, "evidently Adam is a type of all mankind" while Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, another Muslim translator, says the same: "Here the command is in the plural, as addressed to Adam’s race." The word for "all of you" in Surah 2:38 is jamii’aa, an Arabic word defined in Kassis’ A Concordance of the Qur’an, as "a host, a congregation, all, together, altogether" (p.595). Not only, therefore, does the Qur’an clearly teach the fall of Adam but it also, like the Bible, implicates the whole human race in his act of disobedience and its consequences.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#189089 Sep 15, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
It's kind hard to establish if the low rate of crime in Singapore is due by the death penalty, since the Singapore's laws are full of strict laws plus education through campaign against crime, etc. I'd say the sum of all that have reduced the crime rate.
<quoted text>
You already failed to prove that is the death penalty that has decreased the crime in your country. To get another point I would suggest you to look at U.S.A. There are States that have death sentences and other who don't. Is crime rate significally lower in the countries with death sentence in U.S.A.?
<quoted text>
LOL
Me or you?
According to Singapore laws and to yourself a man who has killed lots of people, raped and/or favored the raping, stolen and/or favored the stealing, cheated lots of people, would be sentenced to death or not?
rabbee: the best way to change, your crime statistics. is to make, some murder legal.

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