Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 253562 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187386 Sep 2, 2013
El Cid wrote:
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Here's the complete passage, Arabic and all:
http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp... (for bmz, because he thought that the translation at http://quran.com/33/37 that I'd cited earlier was inadequate.)
http://quran.com/33/37 reads as follows:
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah ," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished."
Muslims believe that the above IS guidance for all mankind. I mean, haven't you ever needed to marry the ex-wife of your adopted son because Allah commanded you to do just that?
Exactly. Clearly this is about one specific situation and matter of Muhammad's. This does not belong in the Quran and belongs in the hadiths. But Muhammad was using the Quran he was creating to give him a fake authority to do the things he wanted to do, and that's the only reason why it needed to be in the Quran. Same thing as Sura 66 and other Suras as well.

How fishy can something possibly be? But Muslims are hypnotized, so they never consider this. They never really ask themselves why the Quran had to be revealed over 23 years and why often a Sura does not come up in advance of a situation, but instead comes up AFTER Muhammad was already in that position.

Heck, maybe I should try to do the same thing. Every time I'm in a spot where I need to do something, I could just write a chapter in my book and claim that God is allowing me to do what I want to do.

This is no different than what people like Jim Jones and David Koresh did.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#187387 Sep 2, 2013
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey ~El dickhead!
Stop cherry picking....and explain these stupid verses:
27 “You have heard the commandment that says,‘You must not commit adultery.’
28 But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
29 So if your eye—even your good eye—causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
30 And if your hand—even your stronger hand—causes you to sin (ARISING FROM LUST...ie: play with yourself?), cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
31 “You have heard the law that says,‘A man can divorce his wife by merely giving her a written notice of divorce.’
32 But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery.
Do you have a the ability to do a tafsir on the above, you uneducated wood chopper?
Can you find an equivalent verse advising women?
****31A “You have heard the law that says,‘A woman can divorce her husband by merely giving him a written notice of divorce.’
****32 But I say that a woman who divorces her husband, unless he has been unfaithful, causes him to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced man also commits adultery.
Do you even have the brains to deal with any of these? Nope.
How does it feel to not have any hands left?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187388 Sep 2, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously, it was a test of obedience, just as turning away from Jerusalem and toward The Cube when praying was a test of obedience.
LOL!!! That is what they tell themselves. God isn't sure whether they are loyal or not, so he needs to test them. And often in a huge way.
Alex WM

London, UK

#187389 Sep 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
Questions to Christians, excluding dear HughBe, a cognizant Christian
The word 'father' appears 660 times in the Old Testament.
How many times does the word Father appear in the Old Testament?
How many times does the word 'Father' appear in each gospel? Please name the gospels also.
Thanks
Have they responded properly yet, bro?
I may have missed it then!
Perhaps they are waiting to find out from you!
Salaams,
Alex
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187390 Sep 2, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, we let the Iraqis and Iranians kill each other with chemical weapons after the US sold those to Iraq and the Soviets sold them to Iran. But maybe we let them do that because they were killing each other in war and it was not a matter of the ruler gassing his own people. But we let Saddam gas his own people. But maybe we didn't know about that until it was too late.
Good boy!

In the current situation, the US regime should stay out and let them kill each other.

The good thing is that Asad is close to wiping off all terrorists, gangsters, murderers of Al-Qaedah and other terrorist groups.

Any attack by US regime to weaken Asad and Syrian Armed Forces, will weaken the government and later the US and other Western regimes will be dealing with terrorists, they hate most.

I agree with you. Actually both of us had agreed that we should let them kill each other. It is no point that the US regime kills more innocent civilians.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187391 Sep 2, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>How does it feel to not have any hands left?
If Philthy Phallics didn't have any hands left, what would he do with all of the Phallic symbols in his room? Wait, never mind. I know what he would do. He would be walking like John Wayne with his legs spread out almost like someone does when they crap their pants and don't want to get it on their legs.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187392 Sep 2, 2013
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey ~El dickhead!
Stop cherry picking....and explain these stupid verses:
27 “You have heard the commandment that says,‘You must not commit adultery.’
28 But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
29 So if your eye—even your good eye—causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
30 And if your hand—even your stronger hand—causes you to sin (ARISING FROM LUST...ie: play with yourself?), cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
31 “You have heard the law that says,‘A man can divorce his wife by merely giving her a written notice of divorce.’
32 But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery.
Do you have a the ability to do a tafsir on the above, you uneducated wood chopper?
Can you find an equivalent verse advising women?
****31A “You have heard the law that says,‘A woman can divorce her husband by merely giving him a written notice of divorce.’
****32 But I say that a woman who divorces her husband, unless he has been unfaithful, causes him to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced man also commits adultery.
Do you even have the brains to deal with any of these? Nope.
Bro,

Those were no commands from Jesus. He was a teacher. Note the words, "But I say....."

He simply suggested that the couples remain united instead instead of getting a divorce on the basis of petty quarrels or where a man found a prettier woman and wanted to get rid of his old wife, etc.

You know that back then, the Sons of God always went after Daughters of Men.(I have put it in the Christian style)

He agreed that if the wife were unfaithful or had committed adultery, the man could divorce her. He had no objection to that.

He left it at that and did not go into any further details of the subject as the Qur'aan does.

He forgot to address an important point. What if a man were unfaithful to his wife or what if the Sons of God were unfaithful to their wives? Being a male, he did not go into that.

Salaams
BMZ
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187393 Sep 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Good boy!
And curiously, you didn't quote the rest of my post.
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
It is no point that the US regime kills more innocent civilians.
You're right. Why should the US do that when Muslims themselves will do that? And even if they help0ed, people would only end up hating them even more. They always do because they have to. The US needs to be the number one excuse for all of their failures, so you don't expect people to drop that, do you?

I think that Obama has the crazy idea that if Syria becomes a democracy, they will stop shipping weapons to Hezbollah. Are you kidding me? Whoever takes over is going to be even worse. There will never be a reasonable, responsible democracy in the Middle East. They just don't think that way because Islam dominates every part of their mind. This is being proven all over the Middle East and the "Arab Spring" is a disaster.

People in the Middle East need to be ruled by dictators. Who would have thought that all of those years where people blamed the US for supporting Middle East dictators, that the US would end up being right for doing that? Maybe that's one of the few right decision they ever made about the Middle East, and now they aren't even doing that part right.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187394 Sep 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
The good thing is that Asad is close to wiping off all terrorists, gangsters, murderers of Al-Qaedah and other terrorist groups.
It would appear that the rebels have let people like this infiltrate them. There are stories of some of them eating the organs of dead soldiers. Maybe that's not true, but after watching what people like this did in Iraq, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187395 Sep 2, 2013
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Have they responded properly yet, bro?
I may have missed it then!
Perhaps they are waiting to find out from you!
Salaams,
Alex
Shamma tried a little but did not get my point.

My point was that the NT was filled up with the word Father aimlessly, and it flooded John.

A few times in other gospels and hardly a few times in the OT.

John's gospel was loaded with it unnecessarily. And that is where we see 'my Father','your Father''your father' from Jesus and 'our father', from the Jews.

When this 'My Father' went to the pagans, they thought it to be 'My father'.

That is how 'the Father in Heaven' was turned into his Father, which the pagans took to mean 'his father'. And that is how the father and son relationship came about and ended up as the Father and the Son.

So, if you ask a Christian the question "Was God Jesus' father', it perturbs the Christian and the reply would be "Yes, God was the Father of Jesus." The polemic Christian is unable to differentiate between the Father and father.

Salaams
BMZ
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#187396 Sep 2, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of YHVH.
The third person of Gods Holy Trinity
Jesus is the second person of Gods Holy Trinity "The Word of God"
"Father, Son, Holy Spirit".
rabbee: no different than on earth with, Father-Mother-Baby. and that is the correct order, in HEAVEN also. what is the absolute truth in HEAVEN, is also the absolute truth on earth.

just as sure as i believe, you do not want a bunch of screaming, destructive, and disrespectful, brats in your house either.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187397 Sep 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>The polemic Christian is unable to differentiate between the Father and father.
Salaams
BMZ
Except in the case of Jesus, he had no father.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187398 Sep 2, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
And curiously, you didn't quote the rest of my post.
<quoted text>
You're right. Why should the US do that when Muslims themselves will do that? And even if they help0ed, people would only end up hating them even more. They always do because they have to. The US needs to be the number one excuse for all of their failures, so you don't expect people to drop that, do you?
I think that Obama has the crazy idea that if Syria becomes a democracy, they will stop shipping weapons to Hezbollah. Are you kidding me? Whoever takes over is going to be even worse. There will never be a reasonable, responsible democracy in the Middle East. They just don't think that way because Islam dominates every part of their mind. This is being proven all over the Middle East and the "Arab Spring" is a disaster.
People in the Middle East need to be ruled by dictators. Who would have thought that all of those years where people blamed the US for supporting Middle East dictators, that the US would end up being right for doing that? Maybe that's one of the few right decision they ever made about the Middle East, and now they aren't even doing that part right.
I usually delete the absurd parts of a post. I do this with all.

Democracy Western style can never work in other parts of the world. Leaders of the Western regimes do not realize that.

I agree with you that dictators and despots can handle the ME and other Muslim countries well, if the US and other powerful regimes of Europe (the UK, France and Germany) do not boot-lick them and do not keep them in their pockets.

There is still time, so write to your Congressmen to humiliate Obama just as the Bristish MPs humiliated David Cameron.

There was great statement from Jonathan Eyal of the Straits Times, in his article. He wrote and I quote:

Quote from Jonathan Eyal in today's Straits Times:

"In years to come, it is inconceivable that any future Western leader would be able to commit forces for any foreign operation without a clear international mandate and/or explicit backing from national lawmakers.

The days when a British prime minister and an American president could sit on a park bench at the Camp David retreat and plan a war have ended."
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187399 Sep 2, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
It would appear that the rebels have let people like this infiltrate them. There are stories of some of them eating the organs of dead soldiers. Maybe that's not true, but after watching what people like this did in Iraq, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
And the US regime wants to support these kind of barbarian animals?

Seeker,

The clueless US officials do not even know that the Talebans have also infiltrated and are in.

So, it is imperative that Asad must win at all cost. Did you hear that now, it is not about regime change. If it is not, why not talk to the regime? Invite them for a coffee or go for a Qahwah and Sheesha. Making belligerent statements will not help.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187400 Sep 2, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
Except in the case of Jesus, he had no father.
I know that.

But you do understand that the Father was not his father. Right?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#187401 Sep 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I like this part of Matthew 19:10-12
"10 The disciples said to him,“If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”
11 Jesus replied,“Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”"
Quite an off-topic reply from Jesus here.
Looks like Jesus and his disciples were eunuchs. No wonder, they did not marry.
Anyway, Jesus definitely does not sound well-qualified and competent on the subject of divorce.
The main point was that if the wife were unfaithful, one could divorce his wife. Jesus agreed with that.
You live in sin, you have more than one wife.
Muhammad lived in sin.
http://creation.com/monogamy-bible-one-man-wo...
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#187402 Sep 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ruach HaKodesh IS NOT the Spirit of God or the Holy Spirit of God. It is not a thing at all.
Don't try to teach us Church's Hebrew For Christians.
rabbee: is this what your, quran says? if so it is a lie, for i have seen HER.

so you cannot convince me, that G-D is not BOTH FATHER/MOTHER of adam. as revealed in all The-Names of G-D. you can see this singular duality, always being given to Adam.

you just don't covet certain portions of TheTorah, and make up all the rest of your own somebody else's vain stuff.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#187403 Sep 2, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: no different than on earth with, Father-Mother-Baby. and that is the correct order, in HEAVEN also. what is the absolute truth in HEAVEN, is also the absolute truth on earth.
just as sure as i believe, you do not want a bunch of screaming, destructive, and disrespectful, brats in your house either.
When you find God let me know.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#187404 Sep 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I usually delete the absurd parts of a post. I do this with all.
Yes the absurd parts where I said that Muslims are never more in their glory than when they are fighting and how they live for that and it gives them meaning for their miserable lives. I don't think that's absurd at all and it gives them the chance to imitate their prophet and martrydom is the best thing for them. It's funny how people who claim to love martydom so much scream the loudest when someone tries to give them their wish. What's the problem with killing Muslims? That's what they claim they want. And when it's a Muslims killing another Muslim, there should be no problem at all. And even Muhammad himself used to threatened people by saying he will send against them a people who love death more than life. So it all sounds okay to me. There is full consent and Muhammad even put his rubber stamp of approval on it. So what would be the problem? Give em what they want. There isn't much value placed on life in Muslim culture anyway.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#187405 Sep 2, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I know that.
But you do understand that the Father was not his father. Right?
rabbee: Adam has THE-FATHER AND THE-MOTHER, and The Surrogate Mother as well. Merreeam is not Yeshooah's, actual Mother. this is how people materialize into the flesh, is through the womb of TheWoman. no flesh can enter into this world, without coming through the womb of the female. you all got here this way, as so did Yeshooah Adam. it takes flesh to create flesh, as G-D has arranged it and spirit to create spirit.

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