Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 230767 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#187205 Aug 31, 2013
why is there no mention, of all of you not here in TheTorah today? for this again, end of the sixth day. why are all you, nobodies here in IT again?

when i know G-D, can see all of you claiming to not be here in IT again. or THEY would not of came and told me, about all of you and your grandmother not here in IT again.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#187206 Aug 31, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Come on Mr. Seeker, why should you be so naïve? You know what prophesies are? Is there any mention of Jesus or Mary in your "famous" Isaiah 9:6 and Isaiah 14:7?
YHWH and God and Allah are one and the same thing. Mere change of language would not make them different, will it?
02. Only prophet that rose in Arabia after prophet Ishmael (according to my knowledge) was Our Prophet.
03. What Christians have done for Makkah or Jerusalem? What sort of comment is this?
04. What Romans did to Makkah or Jerusalem?
05. Makkah was waiting for its turn, till Jerusalem has had its drinks!!
This is very clearly mentioned in the prophesy itself.
Probably you did not read it with care.
Our prophet restored Makkah' and Kaaba' and rituals to the original "pure" state of the times of Abraham and Ishmael and removed all the deviations and corruptions made by Pagan Arabs.
He need not have to invent everything.
Your hate and bias is very clear in your post.
Yes the direction was changed from Jerusalem to Makkah as is mentioned in this prophesy itself.
It was a sign that Jews have been deposed from the position of Chosen race to a Rebellious Group and they shall end their life in it.
07. Why "frequented" has to specifically mentioned in the prophesy? You know that prophesies are never specific, but the idea of having a place of eternal glory, does include that it shall be frequented.
08. What that has to do with sanctity of Makkah. I do not know any Muslim who denies sanctity of Makkah or fights over it.
08. Ottoman never invaded Makkah, it became part of their Empire when they became Caliph and their rule was recognized by every one in the land.
There have been no invading of Makkah by any Non Muslim forces.
10. God speaks in general terms. It does not mean that God will NEVER be angry with Muslims.
And we can see it even in these days, despite most of Muslims showing lip service to Islam, it is still the fastest growing religion in the world.!!
Conclusion:
I thank you my dear brother for going in so minute details about this prophesy.
I hope that you could have done the same for the "Howlers" you made about Jesus in those Isaiah 9-6 and Isaiah 14:7.
And every one can see, how we bring form the same book of Isaiah prophesies which are much stringer, much clearer than they bring for Jesus.
But it is bias and way of thinking that people like you miss, when reading your own scriptures.
My Dear Brother, do you think, we have said our say on this prophesy and should move on to next?
Let people decide which side has more truth to their side.
Because we will never get any conclusion, because you are "programmed to deny and shall continue to deny till the cows come home"…
We should move to my next input? Should we?
rabbee: i see no writings or sayings, in TheTorah from Eeshmael. to lay claim he was a prophet either true or false. there is too little written in TheTorah, about Eeshmael to make that false claim.

two false religions butting heads together, are not going to determine the truth. if your books say Eeshmael was a true prophet, it is lying according to TheTorah.

being involved in any prophecy, does not make one a true prophet. and TheTorah is all true prophecy, of this world rejecting G-D here in IT.

and returning to a pure state, would have been to restore The-Laws of Moshe. and would not involve, making new sharia law. Gabreeeal would never, tell anyone that. i have met with Gabreeeal too many times to know, HE would never give anything contrary to TheLaw Given to Moshe. you won't even find the Noachide Laws, being contrary to what is given to Moshe.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#187207 Aug 31, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't talking about Banu Quraizah and other Jews. Those, who were killed, got what they deserved. So, there is no need to whine and rant about that. I was also not talking about what you junk you have written here.
I wanted to know why did you laugh like a kookaburra on a verse which you quoted and could not even understand?
Clueless Muslim,

Qur'an 69:38 "But nay! I swear that this is truly the word of an honored, illustrious, and noble Messenger; it is not the word of a poet, nor is it the word of a soothsayer."

What's not to laugh about? That desperate narcissist of a "prophet" of yours was always swearing by this, that, and the other thing in creation that what he was saying was not only true and binding, but also under penalty of eternal torment for the crime/sin of rejection of his testimony, even if he was re-presenting FABLES of the ancients, like the Sleepers of Ephesus (See: http://quran.com/18 )
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#187208 Aug 31, 2013
Qur'an 22:52 "Every Messenger or Prophet before you recited the message Satan cast into his recitation."

This is slander on multiple levels.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187209 Aug 31, 2013
El Cid wrote:
Qur'an 22:52 "Every Messenger or Prophet before you recited the message Satan cast into his recitation."
This is slander on multiple levels.
Why is that a slander?

Jesus had almost become a victim to Satan under Satan's cross examination. If God had not annulled Satan's suggestion "If you are the son of God........", Jesus would have said, "Oh, Yes! I am the son of God!"

There are many instances, where Satan prevailed over Jesus and Jesus made ridiculous and foolish statements. For his ridiculous statements under the influence of Satan, one has to read the gospels.

Satanic statements such as "Before Abraham was born, I am" and keeping quiet to Thomas' absurd remark, "My Lord. My God" plus dozens more.

David went after a man's wife. Who put that thought in? Was it God? It was Satan, who inspired David.

Satan definitely interfered with the past prophets. it was God, who annulled Satan's suggestion.

You must realize that after God Almighty, Satan is the 2nd most powerful entity.

Bryant

Windsor, CT

#187210 Aug 31, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, please!
The Quranic Arabic Corpus is for those, who are not well-grounded inArabic. Don't show that to me, please!
The words came from others. Qur'aan does not acll him The Messaih.
Qur'aan quotes those, who said that. I have already told you that Qur'aan calls him Rasul-ul-lah (Messenger of Allah).
In English, one mostly writes words separately. In Qur'aan, words are combined with an 'al', which is not a definite article, and acts as a conjunction.
For example, Allah, which can be written as Al-lah. Here Al is the definite article and Allah means The God.
In the Quranic Arabic Corpus, you presented, the words Qatalna in the third row and the word messiah in the fourth row are read together and 'al' is used to combine the two.
So, we read it as QATALAN-AL-MASEEH, which means "We killed messiah". You can't do that in scripturally poor languages English and Greek.
For example you cannot do killed-al-messiah kind of thing in English or Greek.
And then look at the words in row 8 and row 9. It says Rasul in row 8 and Allah in row 9, which we read together as Rasulallah or Rasulullah.
Allah does not say that Jesus was The Messiah. Allah says he was the son of Mary and the messenger of Allah. You can see 'son of Mary' written in rows 6 and 7.
Jews are expecting the Messiah to come, the King of Israel. They do not believe Jesus is the Messiah.

Are you saying that the author of the Qur'an did not look at Jesus of Nazareth as being the Messiah, the one Jews are still awaiting?

Is the Qur'an denying Jesus of Nazareth is that Messiah?

If so, do Muslims believe a Jewish Messiah is still to come?

Rambam's 13 Principles of Faith:

12. I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah. How long it takes, I will await His coming every day.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187211 Aug 31, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>Clueless Muslim,
Qur'an 69:38 "But nay! I swear that this is truly the word of an honored, illustrious, and noble Messenger; it is not the word of a poet, nor is it the word of a soothsayer."

What's not to laugh about? That desperate narcissist of a "prophet" of yours was always swearing by this, that, and the other thing in creation that what he was saying was not only true and binding, but also under penalty of eternal torment for the crime/sin of rejection of his testimony, even if he was re-presenting FABLES of the ancients, like the Sleepers of Ephesus (See: http://quran.com/18 )
Don't be stupid like an ignorant fool, Buford.

You can understand the verse by reading this example:

For example, we can say that the Bible is not the true word of God, it is not even full of the words of the noble messenger, who was sent to his people and it is nothing but a hocus pocus and a mishmash of stories written by men, soothsayers and liars.

We cannot say that for Qur'aan because it was revealed and Muhammad recited out exactly as it was revealed.

No Toms, Dicks and Harries in Qur'aan.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187212 Aug 31, 2013
Bryant wrote:
Jews are expecting the Messiah to come, the King of Israel. They do not believe Jesus is the Messiah.

Are you saying that the author of the Qur'an did not look at Jesus of Nazareth as being the Messiah, the one Jews are still awaiting?

Is the Qur'an denying Jesus of Nazareth is that Messiah?

If so, do Muslims believe a Jewish Messiah is still to come?

Rambam's 13 Principles of Faith:
12. I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah. How long it takes, I will await His coming every day.
No.

We have no place for a Messiah in Islam. We have not been foretold of a messiah. We have never been promised a messiah. We are neither Hebrews/Jews nor Christians.

We have the Prophet. Qur'aan tells us that Muhammad is the seal of the Prophets, which means there will be no more prophet after him.

Why do we need a messiah? What for?

The Jews can wait for their messiah and you can wait for yours. We have no problem with that.

We ain't waiting for one.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#187213 Aug 31, 2013
I found the quote below or the words of a rabbi interesting.

" ..the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:

a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.

b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and DEATH greater in measure than the other nations, in ORDER that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.

c) No ransom will be paid"
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187214 Aug 31, 2013
Bryant wrote:
<quoted text>
Jews are expecting the Messiah to come, the King of Israel. They do not believe Jesus is the Messiah.
Are you saying that the author of the Qur'an did not look at Jesus of Nazareth as being the Messiah, the one Jews are still awaiting?
Is the Qur'an denying Jesus of Nazareth is that Messiah?
If so, do Muslims believe a Jewish Messiah is still to come?
Rambam's 13 Principles of Faith:
12. I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah. How long it takes, I will await His coming every day.
A 2-in-1 question, Bryant

What good things did Jesus do as a messiah, besides the few miracles and did he sit on David's throne?
Alex WM

London, UK

#187215 Aug 31, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: TheTorah by no means, belongs to group of people. TheTorah is the history of the whole world and everything happening here in IT. you, the jews, and everyone else have misinterpreted, everything and everyone taking place here in IT again.
and G-D says you are in now way, doing good deeds, charity, and mercy, and alleged fellow human beings, offered to other g-ds. and G-D has already judged you all, and given this to me to tell you all. if you are not worshiping TheG-D i know, it is called idolatry. you worship the g-ds, of other stories.
and G-D already told you THEY are TWO in ONE G-D, with YH-VH, El-Shaddaee, and Elo-Heem. and THEY gave this IMAGE to THE ONE Adam, Who is Both HE And She in One-Flesh. G-D has already told you, THEY have a male child son named adam your eternal grandfather. With THEM as MATCHMAKER, For Him. in this world that has always, rebelled against this.
there are about seven billion nobodies here in TheTorah again. just like the two last times, you all and your grandmother were all not here in IT. as you are just thrice again, all making the same old mental mistakes. and all you have to do, is to claim your heritage here in TheTorah with G-D WHO is giving IT all again.
Thanks Rabbee.
Each one to his own scripture.
What you quote relates to your religious upbringing.
Chinese cannot be forced to pronounce thetorah and nor can the japanese.
thetorah is in the hands of a few who promote their names, race and tribe and it shall remain that way.
Otherwise, why should G-d force 7billion humans to use the language of one rce or tribe?
I simply will NEVER accept that man looks like G-d or that man is in the physical image of G-d.
Let's worship G-d instead of worrying about names.
Thanks.
Alex WM

London, UK

#187216 Aug 31, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>Clueless Muslim,
Qur'an 69:38 "But nay! I swear that this is truly the word of an honored, illustrious, and noble Messenger; it is not the word of a poet, nor is it the word of a soothsayer."
What's not to laugh about? That desperate narcissist of a "prophet" of yours was always swearing by this, that, and the other thing in creation that what he was saying was not only true and binding, but also under penalty of eternal torment for the crime/sin of rejection of his testimony, even if he was re-presenting FABLES of the ancients, like the Sleepers of Ephesus (See: http://quran.com/18 )
hey moron.
Can you give the name of real person who is even 1000miles close to the Holy Prophet?

Encyclopedia Britannica:

(About Muhammad) "... a mass of detail in the early sources shows that he was an honest and upright man who had gained the respect and loyalty of others who were likewise honest and upright men."
[Vol. 12]
Alex WM

London, UK

#187217 Aug 31, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus went to heaven in his glorified resurrected body.
Jesus lives eternally in the glorified body he was resurrected with.
That is the type of body we will also receive at the final last judgment.
You are ignorant of the teachings of Jesus.
lol...
Who saw Bj go to heaven?
Now comes the question....did this body have any clothes on?
Or was it the good old naked pagan again?
Alex WM

London, UK

#187218 Aug 31, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You are a dumb Muslim Alex.
You, like all Muslims live the pagan life of your pagan war lord Muhammad.
Close your eyes, Shamma...
Think of God.
Do you see a naked pagan on a pole showing his 6pack seductively?
Then you re worshipping SATAN.
Escape NOW.

Catholic confession...and sin:
Sinner: "Father I have sinned...blah...blah..."
Priest: "Do x y or z and you re forgiven".
Both Sinner and priest die eventually, confirming that both were simply sinners! No sin was forgiven...lol
Therefore, they are flogging a lie to the masses.
Alex WM

London, UK

#187219 Aug 31, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>Al_EX the Phallocentric,
Christians don't worship naked pagans.
Take your meds.
Buford the butteredbuttturdlciker...how are you today, low life?

"There is only One God.
Jesus is not God.
The Holy Spirit is not God."
Only ALLAH is God.(ie: The LORD GOD is the only God).

Satan has so blinded worshippers of naked pagans that, they are unaware that they are worshipping naked Pagans.

butteredbuttturdlicker..

Close your eyes,
Think of God.
Do you see a naked pagan on a pole showing his 6pack seductively?
Then you re worshipping SATAN.
Escape NOW.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#187220 Aug 31, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is that a slander?
Jesus had almost become a victim to Satan under Satan's cross examination. If God had not annulled Satan's suggestion "If you are the son of God........", Jesus would have said, "Oh, Yes! I am the son of God!"
There are many instances, where Satan prevailed over Jesus and Jesus made ridiculous and foolish statements. For his ridiculous statements under the influence of Satan, one has to read the gospels.
Satanic statements such as "Before Abraham was born, I am" and keeping quiet to Thomas' absurd remark, "My Lord. My God" plus dozens more.
David went after a man's wife. Who put that thought in? Was it God? It was Satan, who inspired David.
Satan definitely interfered with the past prophets. it was God, who annulled Satan's suggestion.
You must realize that after God Almighty, Satan is the 2nd most powerful entity.
Presumptuouss Fool of a Muslim,

Did Mohammad give any examples at all of Jesus uttering "satanic verses?" He gave NONE, but what do you do in defense of Mohammad's slander not just of past prophets but of God as well for being incompetent? You quote from John's Gospel, which you have already rejected as a forgery! Again, did David prophesy that Bathsheba was to be his, even though she was still married? No, he did not.

In short, you give idiots a bad name.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#187221 Aug 31, 2013
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Buford the butteredbuttturdlciker...how are you today, low life?
"There is only One God.
Jesus is not God.
The Holy Spirit is not God."
Only ALLAH is God.(ie: The LORD GOD is the only God).
Satan has so blinded worshippers of naked pagans that, they are unaware that they are worshipping naked Pagans.
butteredbuttturdlicker..
Close your eyes,
Think of God.
Do you see a naked pagan on a pole showing his 6pack seductively?
Then you re worshipping SATAN.
Escape NOW.
Dick Head,

Christians don't worship "naked Pagans."
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#187222 Aug 31, 2013
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
hey moron.
Can you give the name of real person who is even 1000miles close to the Holy Prophet?
Encyclopedia Britannica:
(About Muhammad) "... a mass of detail in the early sources shows that he was an honest and upright man who had gained the respect and loyalty of others who were likewise honest and upright men."
[Vol. 12]
Textbook Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

BukhariV1B7N1331 "The Prophet said,'I have been given five things which were not given to any one else before me. 1. Allah made me victorious by awe by His terrorizing my enemies. 2. The earth has been made for me. 3. Booty has been made lawful for me yet it was not lawful for anyone else before me. 4. I have been given the right of intercession. 5. Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have been sent to all mankind.'"

Bukhari:V4B52N270 "Allah's Messenger said,'Who is ready to kill Ashraf? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle.' Maslama got up saying,'Would you like me to kill him?' The Prophet proclaimed,'Yes.' Maslama said,'Then allow me to lie so that I will be able to deceive him.' Muhammad said,'You may do so.'"

Bukhari:V6B61N504 "Allah's Apostle said,'Every Prophet was given miracles because of which people believed, but what I have been given is Divine Inspiration which Allah has revealed to me. So I hope that my followers will outnumber the followers of the other Prophets.'"

Bukhari:V9B92N384 "Allah's Apostle said,'Whoever obeys me will enter Paradise, and whoever disobeys me will not enter it.'"

Qur'an 33:57 "Those who speak negatively of Allah and His Apostle shall be cursed."

Qur'an 4:114 "He who disobeys the Apostle after guidance has been revealed will burn in Hell."

And my all time favorite:

Tabari IX:8 "When the polytheists overwhelmed the Muslims, the Prophet got off his mount and started reciting verses in the rajaz meter:'I am the Prophet, it is no lie."
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187223 Aug 31, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>Presumptuouss Fool of a Muslim,
Did Mohammad give any examples at all of Jesus uttering "satanic verses?" He gave NONE, but what do you do in defense of Mohammad's slander not just of past prophets but of God as well for being incompetent? You quote from John's Gospel, which you have already rejected as a forgery! Again, did David prophesy that Bathsheba was to be his, even though she was still married? No, he did not.
In short, you give idiots a bad name.
No, Muhammad did not but through your Bible, I did provide some examples of Jesus making Satanic statements.

Muhammad honoured Jesus.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#187224 Aug 31, 2013
Alex WM wrote:
<quoted text>
lol...
Who saw Bj go to heaven?
Now comes the question....did this body have any clothes on?
Or was it the good old naked pagan again?
I believe I can throw some light on this, bro.

1. Nobody saw him going into heaven.

2. Nobody saw him coming back alive.

3. No, he did not have any clothes on because he had left them neatly folded in the tomb.

That is why he stopped Mary by telling her not to touch him, not to hold him and not to cling to him for the simple reason that he was naked.

"John 20:17 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

17 Jesus saith to her,`Be not touching me, for I have not yet ascended unto my Father; and be going on to my brethren, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and to your God.'"

"John 20:17 Worldwide English (New Testament)(WE)

17 Jesus said to her,'Do not hold me, because I have not yet gone up to my Father. But go to my brothers and tell them that I am going up to my Father. He is your Father also. I am going up to my God. He is your God also.'

John 20:17 New Living Translation (NLT)

17 “Don’t cling to me,” Jesus said,“for I haven’t yet ascended to the Father. But go find my brothers and tell them,‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

Salaams
BMZ

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