Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 230966 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#184081 Aug 1, 2013
"Michele Catalano was looking for information online about pressure cookers. Her husband, in the same time frame, was Googling backpacks. Wednesday morning, six men from a joint terrorism task force showed up at their house to see if they were terrorists. Which begs the question: How'd the government know what they were Googling?"

"Catalano (who is a professional writer) describes the tension of that visit.

[T]hey were peppering my husband with questions. Where is he from? Where are his parents from? They asked about me, where was I, where do I work, where do my parents live. Do you have any bombs, they asked. Do you own a pressure cooker? My husband said no, but we have a rice cooker. Can you make a bomb with that? My husband said no, my wife uses it to make quinoa. What the hell is quinoa, they asked....
Have you ever looked up how to make a pressure cooker bomb? My husband, ever the oppositional kind, asked them if they themselves weren’t curious as to how a pressure cooker bomb works, if they ever looked it up. Two of them admitted they did."

http://news.yahoo.com/google-pressure-cookers...

JFK warned YOU.

El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#184082 Aug 1, 2013
Qur'an 4:157-158 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise."

One major problem here is that "Allah" is presented as a deceiver of everyone involved in the "supposed" crucifixion of Jesus, assuming, of course, that "Allah" pulled off the switcheroo. The Romans, the Jews, the disciples, even Mary, the mother of Jesus -ALL were deceived by "Allah." Why?

Another problem here is that "rescued" Jesus -according to the Qur'an- NEVER tells his disciples or even his own mother that he is still alive, and that some poor schmuck got killed in his place, which means that Mary helped to bury a stranger that she thought was her son, c/o "Allah's" deception, while Jesus went along with it. Again, why?

Yet another problem, and the greatest, IMO, is that Muhammad's "revelation" via "Jibreel," makes Jesus a liar. In the Gospel record Jesus prophesied his own death and resurrection, but Muhammad denied that these fundamental truths of Christianity even occurred. Of course, Muslims argue that Christians corrupted their texts, that is, they INVENTED their religion, but it is far more likely that a six-centuries-removed pagan Arab got it wrong.

Again, Muhammad could easily have discovered what orthodox Christianity actually believed and taught -the Canon had been established centuries earlier- but he didn't care enough to fact check anything, not that it would have changed anything regarding his PERFECT REVELATION VIA "JIBREEL."

I've presented the above reflections to Muslims, and the reply has invariably been that their "prophet" -the last and best ever- could not possibly have been deceived or misinformed. After all, "Allah" would never have allowed it!
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#184083 Aug 1, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
Who circumcised god?
His heart was always pure and so there was and is no need to circumcise the foreskin of His Heart.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#184084 Aug 1, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, dear HughBe.
Please take good care of the young lad.
Good night
Rest well, BMZ. I shall never give up on Joel. I shall not stop until a beautiful young lady works on him.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#184085 Aug 1, 2013
El Cid wrote:
Qur'an 4:157-158 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise."
One major problem here is that "Allah" is presented as a deceiver of everyone involved in the "supposed" crucifixion of Jesus, assuming, of course, that "Allah" pulled off the switcheroo. The Romans, the Jews, the disciples, even Mary, the mother of Jesus -ALL were deceived by "Allah." Why?
Another problem here is that "rescued" Jesus -according to the Qur'an- NEVER tells his disciples or even his own mother that he is still alive, and that some poor schmuck got killed in his place, which means that Mary helped to bury a stranger that she thought was her son, c/o "Allah's" deception, while Jesus went along with it. Again, why?
Yet another problem, and the greatest, IMO, is that Muhammad's "revelation" via "Jibreel," makes Jesus a liar. In the Gospel record Jesus prophesied his own death and resurrection, but Muhammad denied that these fundamental truths of Christianity even occurred. Of course, Muslims argue that Christians corrupted their texts, that is, they INVENTED their religion, but it is far more likely that a six-centuries-removed pagan Arab got it wrong.
Again, Muhammad could easily have discovered what orthodox Christianity actually believed and taught -the Canon had been established centuries earlier- but he didn't care enough to fact check anything, not that it would have changed anything regarding his PERFECT REVELATION VIA "JIBREEL."
I've presented the above reflections to Muslims, and the reply has invariably been that their "prophet" -the last and best ever- could not possibly have been deceived or misinformed. After all, "Allah" would never have allowed it!
Sincere question, how are you Buford?
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#184086 Aug 1, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Rest well, BMZ. I shall never give up on Joel. I shall not stop until a beautiful young lady works on him.
Didn't you get the memo? Our MAN in Mumbai doesn't indulge in masturbatory exercises with anyone, male or female, because such vital force wasting indulgences hinder his quest for SUPRAMENTALIZATION, or so I surmise. Of course, ONE needs a Master to pull if off, SUPRAMENTALIZATION, that is, and HIS is currently BLACKBALLED for being an aura sucking SORCEROR.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#184087 Aug 1, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Sincere question, how are you Buford?
Compared to the rest of struggling humanity, I'm actually doing quite well.
MUQ

Lucknow, India

#184088 Aug 1, 2013
Seeker wrote:
01. If a prophecy says that a person will have green eyes, brown hair, will be six feet tall and will be born in Damascus, and we know for a fact the person was born in Tulsa Oklahoma, there is no need to look at the other qualities.

02. As I said, if there is a very specific element of any prophecy that Jesus CANNOT fit, then it isn't talking about Jesus. All you mention about the prophecies in Isaiah are the possible contexts of the verses.

03. There is only one place this conversation can go. If you want to make the case that "from among your brothers" in 18:18 does not mean fellow Jews, but rather from the descendants of Ishmael, then we can discuss that. But if it meant fellow Jews, then

I hope I have made myself as clear as possible because I'm getting tired of explaining the rules of basic logic.
Ans.

01. Do you not think my dear brother that you are getting a little sarcastic? We already agreed that Prophesies are not specific.

They only present a word picture of a future event that is going to happen many centuries after wards.

And we discuss these prophesies after many centuries have passed and we have lots and lots of hindsight.

The wordings in scripture are not that certain.

It is very possible for someone to give “undue importance” to some word mentioned in that prophesy and become “Dogmatic about it”.

02. If you would have given more evidences about Jesus’ prophesies from OT books, we would have analyzed these things in more detail.

03. But it seems my dear brother, that after burning your fingers with first two prophesies, you do not want to venture in that direction.

04. You want to bring Deut 18:18 as that is the ONLY prophesy about our prophet in OT and NT books. We will Inshallah i.e. God willing are going to discuss Deut 18:18 and I will prove (using you r own logic that it fulfills more about our prophet than Isaiah 9:6 and 7:14 point towards Jesus)….. but its time shall come on at a later stage of our discussion.

05. You know my dear Brother, I am trying your patience and we will move on to your “favorite issue”, what Bible says about our prophet!!

06. But my dear brother, do not start jumping from your seat, I will approach this problem slowly and in step by step way.

07. So my dear brother, let me ask you this simple question,

“do you agree that Bible books do prophesy on major world events that will take place till the last day?”

Let us start preparing for our “final approach to the topic”

PS:

I KNOW you are getting tired, but not of explaining rules of debates, but trying every trick in the book, NOT to mention any more prophesy about Jesus!!

Why don’t be honest with you, once in a while!!
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#184089 Aug 1, 2013
El Cid wrote:
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Compared to the rest of struggling humanity, I'm actually doing quite well.
Glad to know that you're well.

More good luck and greater happiness to you.

Now, some serious questions:

You're single and if I'm not mistaken you're 50 years old or so.

Don't you get bored or depressed living on your own?

How do you manage when you're ill?

How will you manage when you become so old that you could be confined to bed or to home?

Do you have close family or friends who would take care of you in your old age?

Do you pray or visit church?

Would you want a typical christian funeral?(burial is preferable to cremation).

When you're at home, how do you keep yourself busy - cooking, online surfing, etc?

Best Regards.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#184090 Aug 1, 2013
MUQ has the intelligence level of a retard. Deluded fanatic. LOL.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#184091 Aug 1, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, good at being a stupid lunatic. Why don't you actually be honest for a change and tell us all whether you believe a single thing this loon says or not. Do you think he is what he claims to be?
I do not believe in what Rabbee claims to be but I enjoy his posts, Seeker. His tongue is sharper than that of Jesus.

I enjoyed reading this also, when he wrote: "well you hold onto that thought, and $2.50 will still only get you a cup of coffee."

I literally called him a book worm living within theBook, who can't read what is written but he showed no signs of any irritation and instead enjoyed reading my remarks.

I like him for his wit and style. So, please be nice and kind to Rabbee.

I like it best when he calls Eve, Chaooah. It is Hauwa in Arabic.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#184092 Aug 1, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
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Are you suggesting that your yeshooah does not have any DNA from mereeam? Oh dear oh dear!
So yeshooah was not a Jewish boy?
No wonder the Jews tried to bump him off!
rabbee: yep
and technically, he was not the alleged jewish. but everyone on earth, got their alleged dna from Him. TheSon of G-D, cannot be the alleged as jewish. because The-Our-Son of G-D, does not make those kind of jewish* mistakes.

His only connection, is having an alleged as jewish surrogate mother. His father and mother brothers and sisters, were not his actual FATHER AND MOTHER, or brothers and sisters. they were all, His grandchildren. i am in this same situation, with G-D coming and making all this totally wild claims. claims about me being the grandfather, of this whole world here in TheTorah. and that me and this alleged woman as chaooah, had twice before given birth to this exact same world. with all the exact same grandchildren, all precisely again. so yeah i know this is hard to comprehend, or that G-D has that kind of Precision Power and Precision Authority.

but nobody knew the answer to His question, about who are my brothers and sisters but Him. nobody could even accept, WHO His MOTHER And FATHER really are according to scripture. because nobody could accept then, they were in scripture from G-D except Him. just like we are all here in, The Living Scripture from G-D even unto right now today.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#184093 Aug 1, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Glad to know that you're well.
More good luck and greater happiness to you.
Now, some serious questions:
You're single and if I'm not mistaken you're 50 years old or so.
Don't you get bored or depressed living on your own?
How do you manage when you're ill?
How will you manage when you become so old that you could be confined to bed or to home?
Do you have close family or friends who would take care of you in your old age?
Do you pray or visit church?
Would you want a typical christian funeral?(burial is preferable to cremation).
When you're at home, how do you keep yourself busy - cooking, online surfing, etc?
Best Regards.
You are one strange bird.

I get by as best I can, as do you.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#184094 Aug 2, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>

I get by as best I can, as do you.
Glad to know you get by.

I am in trouble because opf family history and that sorcerer and am finding it difficult to cope with the pressures. Besides, my nervous system is so sensitive due to the yogic experiences that're spontaneously continuing till now that I can't sit near most people without getting harmed by their forces or my relationships get all messed up due to a clash between the force in me and the one driving the other person. Then he's still trying to mess with me and his adverse force keeps attacking.

Anyway, I am hoping to make progress on all fronts despite the grave difficulties that most people will not understand.

Best Regards.

PS: Slip out of those torn chuddies (underwears).

BMZ wears his wife's chuddie on his head.

(smiles)
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#184096 Aug 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
It is very possible for someone to give “undue importance” to some word mentioned in that prophesy and become “Dogmatic about it”.
There are only three qualities mentioned in 18:18, and paying attention to one of the three is not being dogmatic at all, it is very important. Like I said, if you want to make the case that from among your brothers actually means descendants of Ishmael rather than fellow Jews, I would be more than happy to discuss that with you. If you merely want to ignore one of only three aspects, then there is no point in discussing this with you as that defies the rules of proper logic, and I won't discuss anything with someone who wishes to violate basic logic and twist it to meet their argument.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
02. If you would have given more evidences about Jesus’ prophesies from OT books, we would have analyzed these things in more detail.
I already told you that I did not enter this conversation with any intentions of having long discussions about whether Jesus was prophecized in the OT or not. Those can go on forever. The discussion that I thought I was entering was whether Muhammad was prophecized in 18:18, and that is a much shorter and easier discussion. You claimed that you want to talk about Jesus so that you can know what methods I use to decide whether a prophecy has come true or not. I have already clearly told you what methods that I use to decide about ANY prophecy about ANYBODY.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
03. But it seems my dear brother, that after burning your fingers with first two prophesies, you do not want to venture in that direction.
All that you did was to give vague reasons that say the context of the verses MIGHT disqualify him, but contexts can be vague and open to interpretation. There is nothing that says he must be born in a certain town, or at a certain time. If there was and Jesus did not match that, he would automatically be disqualified. If not, then there are certainly many similarities that we could look at. But again, I am not interested in having a long discussion about whether Jesus was prophecized or not, and this is NOT what I originally signed up for. You and I both know that this debate started because we were to discuss whether Muhammad was prophecized in the Bible or not, and now the discussion has turned into something that is unrecognizable as per the original objective.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
04. You want to bring Deut 18:18 as that is the ONLY prophesy about our prophet in OT and NT books. We will Inshallah i.e. God willing are going to discuss Deut 18:18 and I will prove (using you r own logic that it fulfills more about our prophet than Isaiah 9:6 and 7:14 point towards Jesus)….. but its time shall come on at a later stage of our discussion.
Ummmm. No it won't. Either we discuss what we were supposed to discuss in the first place, or the conversation ends. There is no such thing as a "most likely" comparison if a clear and key part of a prophecy is not met.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I KNOW you are getting tired, but not of explaining rules of debates, but trying every trick in the book, NOT to mention any more prophesy about Jesus!!
Why don’t be honest with you, once in a while!!
Are you kidding me? You talk about everything BUT the initial subject, I have allowed YOU to dictate where the conversation goes and in what order it goes, I have had the patience to at least entertain your tangent, but not forever, and now I am the one being dishonest? You know what? This conversation is pointless as your reasoning skills are sorely lacking. I can't even imagine how you came to the conclusion above and it leaves me with no confidence at all in the reasoning skills of the person that I am discussing this with. A complete waste of my time with someone who has a cross eyed sense of basic logic and reasoning.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#184097 Aug 2, 2013
RELIGION & LOW IQ:

1) The more religious the country, the dumber the population. Or, perhaps, the other way round: the dumber the population, the more religious the country.

2) Low IQ = inferiority complex = hatred of everything and everyone different and even mildly critical ... This is, unfortunately, particularly true for the followers of Islam.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#184098 Aug 2, 2013
SCIENCE EDUCATION, RATIONALISM & HIGH IQ:

People with Science/engineering, mathematics and economics degrees rank highest in average intelligence. If it's combined with critical/rational thinking, and not being brainwashed by religions, and living in one of the least religious/least irrational countries in the world (like the nations of Scandinavia), they should be doing the best.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#184101 Aug 2, 2013
NORDIC SUCCESS STORY:

"The Nordic region [...] has the world's highest taxes and most generous welfare benefits. And yet Sweden, Finland and Denmark (Norway's oil sets it apart) have delivered strong growth and low unemployment, and rank among the world's most competitive economies. Nordic companies are strong in technology and research and development. Their health-care and educational systems are much admired. And, unlike other European countries, most Nordic states run healthy budget and current-account surpluses. Sweden, whose 9m people make it by some way the biggest Nordic country, is a particular favourite. A year ago the Guardian, a British newspaper, said it was the most successful society the world had ever known.”

The Economist (2006 Sep 09) p29 article "The Swedish Model".
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#184104 Aug 2, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
SCIENCE EDUCATION, RATIONALISM & HIGH IQ:
People with Science/engineering, mathematics and economics degrees rank highest in average intelligence. If it's combined with critical/rational thinking, and not being brainwashed by religions, and living in one of the least religious/least irrational countries in the world (like the nations of Scandinavia), they should be doing the best.
rabbee: then you have only been brainwashed, by your relisions of science, engineering, mathematics, and economics without G-D religiously. they are no better than the filthy and disgusting than the presently jewish, protestant, catholic, buddahism, Hinduism, and muslim religions.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#184105 Aug 2, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
RELIGION & LOW IQ:
1) The more religious the country, the dumber the population. Or, perhaps, the other way round: the dumber the population, the more religious the country.
2) Low IQ = inferiority complex = hatred of everything and everyone different and even mildly critical ... This is, unfortunately, particularly true for the followers of Islam.
rabbee: well i am sure that if, any religious country. made up their own iq tests, you would be dumber than a rock. iq tests made up by atheists, is good for what? only for your, atheist quotient. iq test made up by heretics, is only good for measuring your heretics quotient. iq tests made up by either baptists, or catholics, are only good for your baptist or catholic quotient. iq tests made up by scientists, are only good to measure science quotient. all iq tests are relative, to the prejudice of the group that made them up.

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