Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 Full story: The Brussels Journal 215,082

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#183875 Jul 30, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Ramadan Kareem, MUQ
I must also appreciate the manner in which you are conducting your exchanges with our friend Seeker, who has still a long way to go in order to be able to understand Isaiah, who cannot be understood using Greek glasses.
The Greek language is the mother of all confusions and problems in Christianity and it is the sole reason for her inability to grasp the Hebrew Scriptures, which we find it very easy to grasp.
Salaams
BMZ
I Thank you for following it our little chit chat.

He started with big boasts that No One can stand in debate with him and runs away.

I took the challenge and started it slowly and one step at a time.


He is trying to "Jump the queue" and start his vehement condemnation of our prophet, but I will bring that subject, Inshallah at its proper time.

Thanks once again for your comments.

Salaam and Ramadan Kareem.
david

Saint Paul, MN

#183876 Jul 30, 2013
when you know or understand something that no one knows , you only get smarter and more powerful everyday. your ideas and plans are bigger than the one before. you discover the world,and your mentors or leaders are nothing but mear humans that you can control from the bag of your exclusive knollege. why am I saying this, nothing am just board so I am here for fun so back to my bulcrap ,
to get this wisdom that will make you smart , you need the fallowing
1. need a arabic or heberew or geez or akadian or sumarian aramaic or what ever that is lisan shem dictionary
2. you need a book about music for dumies
3. you need the books of moses the old testaments and or the new testaments .
4. a pen and papers , a calculator
why ? because what I will tell you is a false statement. for fun to f k with your mind. This false statement should be said or shall I say I will say it in a way that should almost make sense or could be true . So here is the false statements why you need the 4 requirements mentioned above to attain this wisdom whitch is false.

in the beginig god created the heavens and the earth ?

why heavens and not " earths " ? are we really alone? lol , is not mars an earth ? is there not other word to discribe that god made this particular singular "earth " and another verb for mars , because common sense says mars and the moon or an astroied are not part of heavens . they are rocks ,solid , is heaven solid ? so mars should be part of earth but the book said " earth" singular , mars the moon etc were forgoten and were counted as a non " earth" rock but a solid visible "heavens ". NOW DO YOU LIKE THIS FALSE STATMENTS AND QUESTIONS ? more ? ok .

BY WHITCH CAME FIRST OF THE DEED OF GOD , HE SKY'ED AND HE EARTH'ED

sky'ed is the heavens for they are not solid . earth'ed is the solid . skying and earthying refers to every thing meaning plural even right now in english let alon in a sematic language created by god. speaking of language of god here is another false statement I just pulled right out of my bulst bagg. There is a code in the bible . surprised ? why would not be one,I mean seriously its a book from god . and why someone writting a book thats going to be the one book would not put a code ? I would . any ways this code are numbers and what u need is the 4 mentioned above . I will not give you any other hint. because I am having fun being the only one to notice when some one dips into there bulsht bagg. what will you discover ? I dont know . you tell me . I would love to see how you will walk up to a muslim a christian or a jew and say " let me explain to you what your messenger is trying to tell you " because you will discover nothing. there is nothing. its just a book. because this is a false statment and I am writting it because I am board .

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#183877 Jul 30, 2013
david wrote:
when you know or understand something that no one knows , you only get smarter and more powerful everyday. your ideas and plans are bigger than the one before. you discover the world,and your mentors or leaders are nothing but mear humans that you can control from the bag of your exclusive knollege. why am I saying this, nothing am just board so I am here for fun so back to my bulcrap ,
to get this wisdom that will make you smart , you need the fallowing
1. need a arabic or heberew or geez or akadian or sumarian aramaic or what ever that is lisan shem dictionary
2. you need a book about music for dumies
3. you need the books of moses the old testaments and or the new testaments .
4. a pen and papers , a calculator
why ? because what I will tell you is a false statement. for fun to f k with your mind. This false statement should be said or shall I say I will say it in a way that should almost make sense or could be true . So here is the false statements why you need the 4 requirements mentioned above to attain this wisdom whitch is false.
in the beginig god created the heavens and the earth ?
why heavens and not " earths " ? are we really alone? lol , is not mars an earth ? is there not other word to discribe that god made this particular singular "earth " and another verb for mars , because common sense says mars and the moon or an astroied are not part of heavens . they are rocks ,solid , is heaven solid ? so mars should be part of earth but the book said " earth" singular , mars the moon etc were forgoten and were counted as a non " earth" rock but a solid visible "heavens ". NOW DO YOU LIKE THIS FALSE STATMENTS AND QUESTIONS ? more ? ok .
BY WHITCH CAME FIRST OF THE DEED OF GOD , HE SKY'ED AND HE EARTH'ED
sky'ed is the heavens for they are not solid . earth'ed is the solid . skying and earthying refers to every thing meaning plural even right now in english let alon in a sematic language created by god. speaking of language of god here is another false statement I just pulled right out of my bulst bagg. There is a code in the bible . surprised ? why would not be one,I mean seriously its a book from god . and why someone writting a book thats going to be the one book would not put a code ? I would . any ways this code are numbers and what u need is the 4 mentioned above . I will not give you any other hint. because I am having fun being the only one to notice when some one dips into there bulsht bagg. what will you discover ? I dont know . you tell me . I would love to see how you will walk up to a muslim a christian or a jew and say " let me explain to you what your messenger is trying to tell you " because you will discover nothing. there is nothing. its just a book. because this is a false statment and I am writting it because I am board .
Dictionaries and lexicons are aids. They are ostensibly written by those who know the subject. Some of us wonder about things beyond that which we can see, feel, and touch. We wonder how it is that the earth is the only known body with green plants and animals and things like these, including humans. Therefore, some of us look to God, or a Higher Power, unseen, for answers. I do not believe the earth and heavenly bodies just happened. I believe Someone caused them to be. Therefore, I also believe this Person or Creator is a superior being and knows more than we do.
david

Saint Paul, MN

#183878 Jul 30, 2013
CouldThisBeTrue wrote:
<quoted text>
Dictionaries and lexicons are aids. They are ostensibly written by those who know the subject. Some of us wonder about things beyond that which we can see, feel, and touch. We wonder how it is that the earth is the only known body with green plants and animals and things like these, including humans. Therefore, some of us look to God, or a Higher Power, unseen, for answers. I do not believe the earth and heavenly bodies just happened. I believe Someone caused them to be. Therefore, I also believe this Person or Creator is a superior being and knows more than we do.
I belive and love and Will do my best to walk with the one.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#183879 Jul 30, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Buford, find yourself a boy and roll into bed with him. Ha ha ha.
JOWL, if you'd simply start playing with your Hostile Vital Penis, you wouldn't be so obsessed with mine.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#183880 Jul 30, 2013
CouldThisBeTrue wrote:
<quoted text>
Dictionaries and lexicons are aids. They are ostensibly written by those who know the subject. Some of us wonder about things beyond that which we can see, feel, and touch. We wonder how it is that the earth is the only known body with green plants and animals and things like these, including humans.

Therefore, some of us look to God, or a Higher Power, unseen, for answers. I do not believe the earth and heavenly bodies just happened. I believe Someone caused them to be. Therefore, I also believe this Person or Creator is a superior being and knows more than we do.
Well said.

I use the same answer, when responding to atheists. Thanks

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#183881 Jul 31, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said.
I use the same answer, when responding to atheists. Thanks
Thank you. The Creator is bigger than we are.:-) God can lead us to the truth and faith, but, as the Bible says, not everyone has faith.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#183882 Jul 31, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
02. Now you are trying "reverse logic", instead of Jesus being prophesized, now you say "Nothing excludes him from being prophesized"!! So instead of "Qualifying, we work on Not being excluded"?
That is not a reversal of my logic at all. I have consistently said that that if there is something important that outright excludes the person, then there is no need to look further. That is the first thing we look at because if something excludes that person, there is no need to look any further. That logic has been plastered all over my posts repeatedly. If there is something important that outright excludes Jesus from being the person prophecized, then we throw Jesus out and say he cannot be that person prophecized. If there is not, THEN we further explore any similarities that he might have or might not have and we look at things such as the context of the verse and other things. This is proper logic, and if you do not agree, there is no need to continue the discussion.

Sorry if proper logic does not allow you to build your case, but logic is logic. All you want to do is to ignore a very important key factor of the prophecy that Muhammad fails on, and merely pay attention to where he MIGHT succeed. This is flawed logic, and I have wasted a TON of time in this discussion. You should have told me what you wanted to do up front and we both could have saved a lot of time, but you refused to do so, and I knew it would inevitably lead to this and I tried to tell you that time and time again, but you kept ignoring it and now we have both wasted a lot of time and it all could have easily been avoided. So, as I predicted I would be, I am now pissed off for wasting this time, and I shouldn't have kept wasting it because I knew where it was going to lead right from the beginning. So I guess it's my fault as well. There was nothing clever or even sound at all in your methodology and what you were trying to build and I don't know why you thought there was. Take some formal courses in logic and philosophy. They train people how to properly dissect an issue rather than attempt to skew the rules of logic.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#183884 Jul 31, 2013
david wrote:
<quoted text>
I belive and love and Will do my best to walk with the one.
rabbee: how many have said that before, when they didn't really? when i can tell by all the leaders in this world, this is not a G-Dly Nation or world. because of the evil and wicked leaders, you all deserve in your own hell.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#183885 Jul 31, 2013
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text>SalaamZ & Salutations O Comedic ONE! LOL! I really appreciate your sense of piousness.its one of your strong suites in light of your keen sensibilities and scholarly nature. The link was absolutely a lesson in laughter.The news person had no clue what to really ask,even though the master scholar literally gave her so many waypoints even a child with an open mind would have responded better!LOL! May ALLAH lead you to a fine bottle of Shiraz! lets say yr-1969!LOL! CheerZ
lol!

Skinner,

At home, we call Fox, the Comedy Central. When I get bored of CNN, BBC and others, I ask my family to switch to Comedy Central and Fox comes on.

Every presenter and every character on that channel is a clown, Rabbeen.

The best that I heard from Fox was this gem of a hypocrisy:

"If you observe any media bias, please alert Fox!" (Something like this)

1950-53 Shiraz would be lovely, because that is the time, when the US and the UK destroyed democracy in Iran.

She sounded more like Shamma!

Salaams
BMZ
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#183886 Jul 31, 2013
CouldThisBeTrue wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you. The Creator is bigger than we are.:-) God can lead us to the truth and faith, but, as the Bible says, not everyone has faith.
rabbee: every one has the same amount of faith, even if they misplace it wherever they want. and all of that, is in some form of lying. for this world does not worship, TheG-D of TheTorah here in IT again that i know. in the exact same again world and their grandmother, thrice again making all the same old mistakes and expecting different results. for the third time, the whole world is sunken even lower than the same again titanic.
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#183887 Jul 31, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
lol!
Skinner,
At home, we call Fox, the Comedy Central. When I get bored of CNN, BBC and others, I ask my family to switch to Comedy Central and Fox comes on.
Every presenter and every character on that channel is a clown, Rabbeen.
The best that I heard from Fox was this gem of a hypocrisy:
"If you observe any media bias, please alert Fox!" (Something like this)
1950-53 Shiraz would be lovely, because that is the time, when the US and the UK destroyed democracy in Iran.
She sounded more like Shamma!
Salaams
BMZ
Salaamz BaeraDaer BMZ. LOL! Tru that! They,re clowns alright,and probably one of the reasons I hate to watch the media circus. You mention 1950-53 vintage shiraz and with good reason.It explains a story My father was fond of telling from his point of view.He blamed the extremist muslim regime for extricateing the shiraz family and their lovely wines! LOL!Thus leaveing Lovely Iran a dry country!Sad really. Cheerz
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#183888 Jul 31, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
lol!
Skinner,
At home, we call Fox, the Comedy Central. When I get bored of CNN, BBC and others, I ask my family to switch to Comedy Central and Fox comes on.
Every presenter and every character on that channel is a clown, Rabbeen.
The best that I heard from Fox was this gem of a hypocrisy:
"If you observe any media bias, please alert Fox!" (Something like this)
1950-53 Shiraz would be lovely, because that is the time, when the US and the UK destroyed democracy in Iran.
She sounded more like Shamma!

Salaams
BMZ
rabbee: well maybe G-D thought, evil iran needed their evil help. or are you silly enough, to think G-D commanded this to happen because iran has ever been any good or innocent?

are you stupid enough to believe, that G-D is going to give this whole traitorous lying and all guilty world with any peace?

are you ignorant enough, to believe that G-D. is going to give this whole lying world, that helped the most subtle talking critter of the fields. to deceive their grandmother of all thrice again, here in the same story with any peace?

when the lack of peace in this delusional world, is commanded by G-D. just like all other, pestilence, plague and famine you all deserve worse for. when the problem with about seven billion problems, is that they cannot understand they are the problem against G-D here in TheTorah again.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#183889 Jul 31, 2013
what is wrong with, this whole evil and wicked lying world? that can't even figure out what happens next, after G-D has always had Adam put to death here in TheTorah.
where even all the hypocrites, who claim to know TheTorah don't believe their here in IT again from G-D.
G-D has Adam put to death, because you are all already gone brain dead with the subtle talking critters of the fields.
in this exact same old world again, where all the hypocrites. do not believe they are actually here, in the same story with adam and their grandmother again. because you all think that TheG-D WHO is, again giving only TheTorah is a liar.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#183890 Jul 31, 2013
since according to G-D, adam and his mate are here again. this means that Adam has previously been put to death, by the disbelief of this whole world. the only debate possible, is just who was this Adam? in this world that has never, believed in This Story of Adam, from G-D actually here in TheTorah. and this is why your hisstory, with the preferred subtle talking serpents keeps repeating. because you all don't really believe in G-D, while actually here in TheTorah Happening.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#183891 Jul 31, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
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This idiot continues to babble!
How old was BJ when his daddy killed him?
BJ's daddy could not save him either!
and this closet Christian worships BJ.
According to the Gospels the Nazarene's death was already planned, so his "heavenly father" didn't need to save him. What excuse do you have for the number one prophet Muhammad? LOL
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#183892 Jul 31, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: how many have said that before, when they didn't really? when i can tell by all the leaders in this world, this is not a G-Dly Nation or world.
Maybe when you stop drooling on your beard and clean the fleas out of it.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#183893 Jul 31, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I Thank you for following it our little chit chat.
He started with big boasts that No One can stand in debate with him and runs away.
I took the challenge and started it slowly and one step at a time.
You completed wasted my time. Your logic skills need a lot of work and I'm not waiting around until you get a proper education. Maybe we can try it again in 5 years or so.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
He is trying to "Jump the queue" and start his vehement condemnation of our prophet,
I'm not condemning Muhammad, I am merely saying that he cannot be the person mentioned in 18:18, and he himself never even said he was. Do you need for him to be propecised in 18:18 in order for you to believe he was a legitimate prophet?

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#183894 Jul 31, 2013
CouldThisBeTrue wrote:
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Buddha was neither a good or a bad person?
Good and bad, that're aspects of the ordinary and exteriorized consciousness, are relative and interchangeable terms that have no fixed definitions since what's good under one set of circumstances may be bad in another situation. And, besides, what good you did yesterday may turn out to be bad when applied today even under the same set of circumstances. Also, you may regret your "good" deed later when at the time it was performed you felt it was the best possible thing you could do. This indicates that the ordinary consciousness is ignorant and does not comprehend an event in its totality beginning with root causes that unfold as the cause begins manifesting as the effects. Many events of the distant past are still manifesting their results or effects till the present and adding to the complexity of the causation of a particular event are interventions from other fields of action including one's own deeds in the same line of causation that may pile up and begin altering the outcome.

All this is too complex for the ordinary deductive mind or mathematical formula to understand or predict with precision.
The play of the forces of consciousness, energy and matter are fluidic.

Good and bad can be visualized as the 2 tines or the 2 aspects of a unified field in which the opposites - good and bad - are so closely united that they are incapable as such of displaying their individual properties nor can they clash with each other for supremacy as they do when separated.

So, in the unified state we see neither of the dualism exhibited and being united a different set of phenomena or a different set of laws comes into play that is other than those that we observe when the good and the bad get separated from the unified state.
This unified state has ascending degrees and is the state of transcendence. From this supra-dual state, one perceives an event in a comprehensive manner with all the possible solutions and with all the possible outcomes arising in the awakened consciousness and so it becomes easy to catch hold of the entire causal chain of a particular event in terms of its precedents, root causes, past, present and future outcomes and possible interventions from the same or from other closely allied causal chains that may alter the outcome.

In the superior transcendental state, the contradictions get resolved into harmonies.

So, in the dual state, when good and bad are free to play and clash, we see murder, injustice, charity, kindness, fanaticism, and the like with all these actions/conditions/incidents being born of limited and flawed perceptions, ideas and attitudes.
CouldThisBeTrue wrote:
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And an auxiliary question is who sets the standards for what means goodness or badness?
No one has and no one can and if anyone claims that so and so god, prophet, thinker or scientist has set a standard of what constitutes goodness or badness within the spatio-temporal dualisms then it is an egoistical declaration and a rash conclusion that reek of ignorance about the true and complete mechanism of causation of nature and being. This is why the puerile teachings of the religions have been debunked and the prophets exposed as frauds, ignoramuses and savage egoists.

There's so much more to add....
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#183895 Jul 31, 2013
Seeker wrote:
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Maybe when you stop drooling on your beard and clean the fleas out of it.
rabbee: so this is the way, you talk to your jesus christ.

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