Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256266 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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#183335 Jul 22, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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What the hell are you talking about? You have no understanding of what a poster writes.
I think at some point in your life you have beaten your head too strong.
Seeker shouldn't throw stones if he doesn't want stones thrown back at him.

I don't accept good and evil mixed together to produce an apparent good that includes murdering innocent people for the cause of Muslim mob rule
We all have a human right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with out Muslim religious thugs and murderer's wanting to use their religious mob laws to rule the world..

Muslims refuse to debate their religion as a religious government in wanting to subdue all non-Muslims under their control.
This thread ask the question "Who is Allah"
Under Muslim religious laws Allah is the Muslim religious government representing God on earth, and all peoples are subject to the religious laws made by Muhammad their prophet.

And I for one do not accept Muhammad as having authority over my life.

This thread is not about Jesus Christ, its about the Muslim god called Allah.

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#183336 Jul 22, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't cause any strife that your yourself doesn't cause. Christians are not supposed to behave like Muslims and have an "us verses them" team sort of ethos. So Christians do not defend each other, whether they are right or wrong, just because they are Christians. That's what Muslims do, but that's not what Christians are supposed to do. Either one is right, or they are wrong, regardless of whether they are Christian or not, and I must say that your behavior embarrasses me. You make Christians look stupid and you confirm some of the negative stereotypes that people have for them.
Tell me what you believe is right and wrong in the teaching of Jesus Christ?
Are Christians suppose to have a blind eye to the evils of Muslims using Muhammad as the last prophet as an excuse to subdue and murder innocent people?

According to your beliefs Seeker, Christians are supposed to be willing allow Muslims to define good and evil to Christians according to their Muslim prophet Muhammad.
Well Seeker that is not what Christians are taught by the teachings of Jesus in the Gospels to do.

According to the teachings of Jesus Christ, liars, rapist, robbers, and murder's will not enter into the kingdom of God.

And again according to your beliefs Seeker it is wrong for Christians to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ to publicly rebuke those that do such things.

Of course you are not a Christian, yet your personal ego is ruffled by Christians acting like Christians in rebuking the evil Muslims live and commit under the command of their prophet Muhammad.

You are a beggar Seeker!
You beg to be accepted by Muslim as a self righteous idiot..
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#183337 Jul 22, 2013
uhuh wrote:
Jesus said: "After the Tribulation, the stars will fall from the sky" (Matt 24:29)
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Isaiah and other prophets said that the stars will cease to shine and become dark
only Jesus (god) said that they will FALL
fall down to where? down to earth? lol
Uhuh, clearly they will cease to shine because they will run out of fuel.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#183338 Jul 22, 2013
uhuh wrote:
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no I was talking about the "crowds" in the fictional gospels -- why did they want Jesus dead
the jews got rid of him like they got rid of other "false prophets", NOT because he claimed divinity
1. I want you to read your own words with care and understanding.
2. I want you to compare your own words i.e. the former and now the current ones.
3. I want you to accept my forgiveness for the nonsense that you have written.

Uhuh, previously---the JEWS in the FICTIONAL gospels accuse Jesus of claiming divinity learned real-life Jews know that Jesus did no such thing - it was Paul,'John' and the Church fathers who ascribe divinity to Jesus

Uhuh, currently---no I was talking about the "crowds" in the fictional gospels -- why did they want Jesus dead
the jews got rid of him like they got rid of other "false prophets", NOT because he claimed divinity

Hugh--- Was Paul, the Jew, the former Pharisee a "learned real-life Jew"? I ask because YOU have said that learned real Jews knew that Jesus did not claim divinity. You also said Paul, the Jew, the former Pharisee, the persecutor of Christinas did attributed divinity to Jesus. Get It?

Was Nicodemus, a pharisee and " a ruler of the Jews" a "learned real-life" Jew?

Did he kill Jesus?

What about Matthew the Tax collector and Jew, was he learned? Did he kill Jesus?

John 12:42 "Nevertheless among the CHIEF RULERS also MANY believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:"

Tell me, Uhuh, are the CHIEF RULERS LEARNED Jews? Note they are mentioned in the Gospels.

Learn this, Jesus your "little YHWH" was MURDERED by the Pharisees because they were Jealous of Him and they sought to protect their status as pharaohs over the children of Israel.

Finally, which one of your sages are one with God?

Which one of them came down from HEAVEN? Jesus said that He did.

Since: May 12

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#183339 Jul 22, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Seeker shouldn't throw stones if he doesn't want stones thrown back at him.
I don't accept good and evil mixed together to produce an apparent good that includes murdering innocent people for the cause of Muslim mob rule
We all have a human right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with out Muslim religious thugs and murderer's wanting to use their religious mob laws to rule the world..
Muslims refuse to debate their religion as a religious government in wanting to subdue all non-Muslims under their control.
This thread ask the question "Who is Allah"
Under Muslim religious laws Allah is the Muslim religious government representing God on earth, and all peoples are subject to the religious laws made by Muhammad their prophet.
And I for one do not accept Muhammad as having authority over my life.
This thread is not about Jesus Christ, its about the Muslim god called Allah.
What exactly he said that bother you?

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#183340 Jul 22, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
What exactly he said that bother you?
He insist I should be nice to Muslims, and suggest that it is wrong to tell them that lying, raping, robbery and murder is sin.
He gives me a sermon when I tell Muslims they are going to hell for Murdering non-Muslims.
He says Christians should not talk like that.
He buts in and takes BMZ off the hook, and tries to embaras me in front of BMZ.
He did that 4 or five times already, and it the last post he apologized to Bmz and in saying I won't mention Shamma's name, but He admitted he said He tries to correct me, but I only get more angered.
And I am angered at his stupidity.
He is right about that.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#183341 Jul 22, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
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Salaams, brother.
mr seeker does not answer anything accurately, honestly or completely.
He needs to properly answer my long outstanding questions although he finally managed to confess that Mark, Matt and Luke contain nothing direct from Jesus claiming divinity in any shape or form.
Hope he stops avoiding you.
He is struggling to even understand your very good questions, let alone tackle them.
We shall be able to extract a confession from mr. seeker, to that effect, fairly soon. I am also tightening his noose.
Salaams.
Alex, WM
Thank you brother for your comments.

I think it would be best if you leave Mr. Seeker and me alone. We are doing our discussion any way.

I see he is very busy with other people on this thread, but with me, he gives little time.

I am a slow person, I want things to be done in small steps, I have patience, Inshallah Allah will help me to finish this important discussion.

Salaam

MUQ
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#183342 Jul 22, 2013
Mr. Seeker

1. Please do not try to misunderstand me, I do not say that there are “No Prophesy about Jesus in OT books”.

2. What I am arguing is that people pinning any and every so called prophesy on the personality of Jesus.

3. Just slightest reference to some “future deliverer” for Israel, and any future event, or any scene depicting real and imaginary life of Jesus, and they hasten to conclusion that it is about Jesus. Even when the similarity is very superficial.

That is why so called prophesies about Jesus become in hundred and thousands.

4. The correct approach should be to carefully analyze these verses, check the context, and then see if it matches with the profile and mission of Jesus.

5. There are many prophesies made before first exile of Jews to Babylon and during the period of captivity.

6. Many of these prophesies were fulfilled when Jews returned from exile and reestablished their rule.

7. Some of these prophesies show “conflicting traits”, some are for a Powerful king ruling over nations, judging between nations and having all might and power.

8. Then there are some about some one suffering and meek and suffering every type of insults.

You can not put both of these prophesies on the same person.

9. That is where Christians have made their error and they are trying to put “contradictory qualities” on the same person.

10. When we will go to analyze prophesies in OT and NT book regarding our prophet, you will see that there is no such contradictions.

11. That is why I asked you to provide some clear cut prophesy about Jesus in OT books, so we can have no confusion.

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#183343 Jul 22, 2013
who="Shamma"
Seeker insist I should be nice to Muslims, and suggest that it is wrong to tell them that lying, raping, robbery and murder is sin.
He gives me a sermon when I tell Muslims they are going to hell for Murdering non-Muslims.
He says Christians should not talk like that.
He buts in and takes BMZ off the hook, and tries to embaras me in front of BMZ.
He did that 4 or five times already, and it the last post he apologized to Bmz and in saying I won't mention Shamma's name, but He admitted he said He tries to correct me, but I only get more angered.
And I am angered at his stupidity.
He is right about that.

Replied to BMZ:
Seeker wrote:
Well that was a really nice post. You do Muslims well when you do things like this. Very respectable. But now, I can't insult you anymore. LOL!!! Anyway, thanks. I'm never one to actually wish ill will on anyone, and sometimes it really upsets me to see others, who I will not mention by name, wishing that people here will go to hell and telling them that, and I have even corrected that person for doing so, but as expected, it only made them angrier. You know who I am talking about. Every religion has their "not so good" people.

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#183344 Jul 22, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
What exactly he said that bother you?
Seeker insist I should be nice to Muslims, and suggest that it is wrong to tell them that lying, raping, robbery and murder is sin.
He gives me a sermon when I tell Muslims they are going to hell for Murdering non-Muslims.
He says Christians should not talk like that.
He buts in and takes BMZ off the hook, and tries to embaras me in front of BMZ.
He did that 4 or five times already, and it the last post he apologized to Bmz and in saying I won't mention Shamma's name, but He admitted he said He tries to correct me, but I only get more angered.
And I am angered at his stupidity.
He is right about that.

Replied to BMZ:
Seeker wrote:
Well that was a really nice post. You do Muslims well when you do things like this. Very respectable. But now, I can't insult you anymore. LOL!!! Anyway, thanks. I'm never one to actually wish ill will on anyone, and sometimes it really upsets me to see others, who I will not mention by name, wishing that people here will go to hell and telling them that, and I have even corrected that person for doing so, but as expected, it only made them angrier. You know who I am talking about. Every religion has their "not so good" people.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#183345 Jul 22, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Seeker insist I should be nice to Muslims, and suggest that it is wrong to tell them that lying, raping, robbery and murder is sin.
He gives me a sermon when I tell Muslims they are going to hell for Murdering non-Muslims.
He says Christians should not talk like that.
He buts in and takes BMZ off the hook, and tries to embaras me in front of BMZ.
He did that 4 or five times already, and it the last post he apologized to Bmz and in saying I won't mention Shamma's name, but He admitted he said He tries to correct me, but I only get more angered.
And I am angered at his stupidity.
He is right about that.
Replied to BMZ:
Seeker wrote:
Well that was a really nice post. You do Muslims well when you do things like this. Very respectable. But now, I can't insult you anymore. LOL!!! Anyway, thanks. I'm never one to actually wish ill will on anyone, and sometimes it really upsets me to see others, who I will not mention by name, wishing that people here will go to hell and telling them that, and I have even corrected that person for doing so, but as expected, it only made them angrier. You know who I am talking about. Every religion has their "not so good" people.
Seeker was trying to educate you. He was saying something exactly similar to what Jesus said:

"What comes out of a person is what defiles them. For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”"

So, what you write against us, keeps on defiling you! And you present yourself as a defiled person.
bmz

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#183346 Jul 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Hey idiot,

Did these so-called Hebrew prophets know about black holes?

Were they aware that the sun is also a star?

Did they know the stars shine due to thermonuclear fusion involving hydrogen and helium?
So, they were as ignorant as Jesus, right?

If you must condemn one, condemn the others as well. This is fair-mindedness and the sign of good breeding.

Ok, filthy idiot?
How come your post did not show any sign of good breeding?
bmz

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#183347 Jul 22, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>He insist I should be nice to Muslims, and suggest that it is wrong to tell them that lying, raping, robbery and murder is sin.
He gives me a sermon when I tell Muslims they are going to hell for Murdering non-Muslims.
He says Christians should not talk like that.
He buts in and takes BMZ off the hook, and tries to embaras me in front of BMZ.
He did that 4 or five times already, and it the last post he apologized to Bmz and in saying I won't mention Shamma's name, but He admitted he said He tries to correct me, but I only get more angered.
And I am angered at his stupidity.
He is right about that.
Mommy! Mommy! Seeker is bugging me.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#183348 Jul 23, 2013
SB wrote:
I think Christians observe Sunday because it was the day Jesus allegedly rose from the dead.

Most Christians don't even know they don't keep the Sabbath.
Ans.

My point was that it was not Jesus who fixed Sunday as Sabbath day for Christians.

It was they who picked it up, so as to be "separate" from Jews.

In case of Muslims, Friday was fixed as "day of Assembly" and not as Day of Sabbath.

Allah Knows Best.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#183349 Jul 23, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Tell me what you believe is right and wrong in the teaching of Jesus Christ?
Are Christians suppose to have a blind eye to the evils of Muslims using Muhammad as the last prophet as an excuse to subdue and murder innocent people?
According to your beliefs Seeker, Christians are supposed to be willing allow Muslims to define good and evil to Christians according to their Muslim prophet Muhammad.
It's just like stephano said, either you haven't read any of my posts or you simply can't understand them.
Shamma wrote:
Well Seeker that is not what Christians are taught by the teachings of Jesus in the Gospels to do.
According to the teachings of Jesus Christ, liars, rapist, robbers, and murder's will not enter into the kingdom of God.
And Muslims are not the only people who fit these categories. In fact, there was no Islam nor any Muhammad when Jesus spoke his words.
Shamma wrote:
And again according to your beliefs Seeker it is wrong for Christians to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ to publicly rebuke those that do such things.
Maybe it's wrong to be completely stupid in how you do that. Did you ever think of that? Of course not.
Shamma wrote:
Of course you are not a Christian, yet your personal ego is ruffled by Christians acting like Christians in rebuking the evil Muslims live and commit under the command of their prophet Muhammad.
People from all religions do bad things. The question is whether their scriptures themselves cause them to do these things or not or whether it's just them as a person. you make it sound like evil and murder was not invented until Islam came along. Why don't you spend more time of the specifics of the scriptures rather than calling all Muslims evil murderers? They aren't evil murderers just because they are Muslims. You are nothing but a bigoted moron who can't see people themselves, only the categories that they fit into for you. By why am I even bothering to say this to an angry brick head?
Shamma wrote:
You are a beggar Seeker!
You beg to be accepted by Muslim as a self righteous idiot..
I don't think that anyone with half a brain would say that I am begging to be accepted by anybody here. Not even fellow Christians, if they are an idiot like yourself, let alone Muslims. You are a complete embarrassment to any decent, thinking Christian.
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#183350 Jul 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
YOU have said that real-life Jews know that Jesus did not claim divinity.
Paul, the Jew, the former Pharisee a learned real-life Jew did attribute divinity to Jesus.
Nicodemus, a Pharisee and "a ruler of the Jews", a learned real-life Jew did not kill Jesus.
Matthew the tax collector and Jew also did not kill Jesus.
John 12:42 "Nevertheless among the CHIEF RULERS also MANY believed in him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue"
Jesus said that He came down from HEAVEN and He is one with God.
the characters in the gospels may be historical
but their account in the narrative is mostly made up FICTION (especially in the Gospel coming out of the john)
Jesus the Jew did not claim divinity
uhuh

Jumilla, Spain

#183351 Jul 23, 2013
the Evyonim/Ebionites were Jews, contemporaries with Paul
they claimed that they were taught by the real apostles of Jesus (in contrast with the authors of the NT books who IMPERSONATE as the apostles)
they saw Paul as "an impostor who was the son of a Greek mother and a Greek father"
they had this sermon from Peter, in which he said that Paul was "the man who is my enemy... preaching lawlessness... an apostle sent by the Evil One"
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#183352 Jul 23, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Muslims refuse to debate their religion as a religious government in wanting to subdue all non-Muslims under their control.

This thread ask the question "Who is Allah"

And I for one do not accept Muhammad as having authority over my life.
This thread is not about Jesus Christ, its about the Muslim god called Allah.
Now, you lying just like the pagans. Christians should not lie and behave like the pagans. We debate with you, we explain but you do not.

Jesus told you that what you eat, goes down into the sewers but in your case, it comes out through your mouth. You need to think hard about that. Jesus was not talking about food or shit but was teaching how to talk nicely. Why Christians like you cannot do that?

Every time we explain, you write rubbish.

Moses, Jesus and Muhammad have no authority over anybody's life. The LORD Almighty Allah ha the authority and is the Authority.

Allah is the Owner and the Master of the most obedient slaves Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. When you discuss Allah, the LORD Almighty God, all names will naturally spring up because you will start the rubbish that Jesus is God and we will show that the poor carpenter and part-time shepherd was not.

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#183353 Jul 23, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Seeker was trying to educate you. He was saying something exactly similar to what Jesus said:
"What comes out of a person is what defiles them. For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”"
So, what you write against us, keeps on defiling you! And you present yourself as a defiled person.
I am already educated in the Muslim religious government.
Muslims have the mind and heart of evil wild savage dogs.
Muslims use savagery to intimidate non-Muslims into fear of them.
Ne nice to Muslims or they will use savagery in killing you.
"Don't speak the truth to Muslims".
For Muslims are savagery sensitive on hearing the truth, for they go wild like wild savage dogs and want to kill you.
Muhammad said "I laugh when I kill my enemies".
and who did Muhammad considered his enemies?
Any one that reject Muhammad as prophet.
And it still is this way in our modern day.
Muhammad made his religion into being Gods religious government with the power of God to judge all non-Muslims on earth guilty of sin for rejecting Muhammad as prophet.

That is evil and Satanic, and that insanity fills the minds of Muhammad's followers.


bmz

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#183354 Jul 23, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>I am already educated in the Muslim religious government.
Muslims have the mind and heart of evil wild savage dogs.
Muslims use savagery to intimidate non-Muslims into fear of them.
Ne nice to Muslims or they will use savagery in killing you.
"Don't speak the truth to Muslims".
For Muslims are savagery sensitive on hearing the truth, for they go wild like wild savage dogs and want to kill you.
Muhammad said "I laugh when I kill my enemies".
and who did Muhammad considered his enemies?
Any one that reject Muhammad as prophet.
And it still is this way in our modern day.
Muhammad made his religion into being Gods religious government with the power of God to judge all non-Muslims on earth guilty of sin for rejecting Muhammad as prophet.
That is evil and Satanic, and that insanity fills the minds of Muhammad's followers.
Why are Christian polemicists so crude and gross, Shamma? Has it got something to do with the Church and her presbyters or the books?

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