Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256484 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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JOEL THUMBS UP

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#176740 May 18, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Jesus, the Christ, the ONLY true Jewish Messiah.

Keep these words in mind because there shall NEVER be another messiah apart from FRAUDS. I am guaranteeing you this.
How do you know?

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#176741 May 18, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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The sum total of ALL of the goodness of HUMANITY is less than the worst thing that Jesus ever did.
So, Jesus is imperfect!

What is the worst thing that Jesus did while on earth?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#176742 May 18, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Thanks for quoting the translation of the verses of Qur'aan. Quite true.
I would just like to clarify 158 and 159 above.
156 simply means Allah took him away. That is what it means in Arabic.
Took him away to where? Allah taking him away sure seems like it means that Allah took him to him. So I think the translator did a good job.
bmz wrote:
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Jesus did not ascend into heavens from the cross. Right?
According to the Gospels, that happened after he was resurrected.
bmz wrote:
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It can also mean Allah granted him a high stature.
Took him away means he was granted a high status? They have words for high status in Arabic.
bmz wrote:
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There is nothing in the verse to show that he was bodily lifted up.
Well, it's highly unlikely that took him away means granted him high status. As I said, there are words in Arabic for high status, but we don't find those words in the verse.
bmz wrote:
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159 is talking about the wrong belief of Christians that Jesus was killed on the cross. And every Christian will believe in the wrong story even till his last breath. In other words, every Christian will die believing that Jesus was killed, but on the Day of Resurrection, Jesus will testify against them and deny that he was killed on the cross.
It actually says both the Jews and Christians believe that the Jews crucified him.
bmz wrote:
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Please note from the translation, "and on the day of resurrection he (Isa) shall be a witness against them." which you provided, it is quite clear that HE SHALL BE A WITNESS AGAINST THEM
Sure, according to Muhammad. How was Muhammad ever supposed to follow someone up who was crucified and then resurrected? So it's no wonder that he had to do whatever he could to get rid of that idea.
bmz wrote:
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(CHRISTIANS), and not a witness FOR them. So, on that Day, Isa will say that he was NOT killed.
Thanks for giving me the chance to explain 4:159, which many do not understand.
That is what 159 means.
Not exactly. It meant that both the Jews and Christians believed he was crucified. The Jews boasted about causing it, and the Christians believed in it and used it as the basis for their faith and religion. So Allah allowed them to be deceived and therefore a giant religion was created because of this deception, and it took Allah 600 years to clear this up. Hmmmm..... But then again, what else could Muhammad do? there was no way he could follow up a feat of being resurrected, so the whole story had to be altered so that he could be a prophet.

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#176743 May 18, 2013
Seeker wrote:
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Well, first you claim the Hebrew scriptures are corrupted and are therefore to be thrown out, and then you write your own, new account of God, and claim that this was the God that the real, uncorrupted scriptures talked about. And then you wipe out Judaism and Christianity, rewrite everything, and there you have it. Pretty simple.
Show me where Christian teachings say the Old Testament is corrupted?

Christianity claims Jeremiah as the New Testament Covenant prophesied in the Old Testament.

So it is obvious that you are ignorant.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#176744 May 18, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Not that.
I was telling Shamma, the ignorant fool that he should read Qur'aan. If he had really read Qur'aan, he would not have asked me to provide back up.
If you have read Qur'aan, then you know that it talks mostly about Moses and Bani Israel.
Yeah, and it even gets some of the stories wrong. That caused even further suspicion among the Jews.

I remember the hadith where Muhammad and his army were ready to sack a very small Jewish city. Gee, they must have been a REAL threat to him. So the city leaders, knowing he could easily overrun them, made a very fair deal with him. They offered to have their Rabbis meet with Muhammad the next day and question him, and if he could answer correctly and with wisdom, they said he could rule over them without a drop of bloodshed. Sounds like a good idea to me for both sides. Who wouldn't want that?

But, of course, that night, out comes mister conspiracy theory again. Suddenly, the Rabbis were plotting to kill him and would try the next day. So there was no meeting the next day and instead he sacked the city. Now, assuming Muhammad didn't just make this conspiracy up himself to avoid answering questions he knew he couldn't, why wouldn't he meet with them anyway? Surely he had a much bigger army by far and could bring all of the protection he could ever need. You would think he would be eager to prove to these Rabbis who he really was. But apparently not, because he knew he wouldn't be able to answer their questions because he knew that he was not being guided and that he was not as well studied as these Rabbis were.

Jesus faced the Rabbis and answered their questions in amazing ways they never expected that made them out to be the hypocrites that they were. But Muhammad would never do this. Hmmmmmm......

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#176745 May 18, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Not that.
I was telling Shamma, the ignorant fool that he should read Qur'aan. If he had really read Qur'aan, he would not have asked me to provide back up.
If you have read Qur'aan, then you know that it talks mostly about Moses and Bani Israel.
You dumb ass Muslim.
The scripture seeker posted from the Quran shows the corruptness of the Quran and its falsehoods.

You got suckered into now having to defend those corrupt scriptures in the Quran as being "Fully" in support of the God of the Israelite's and Moses.

Now show your proof that the Quran supports the God of the Israelite's and Moses.

First of all there was no book sent down to Moses.
God himself spoke and inter acted with Moses face to face.

So that alone eliminates the Quran from being the word of God.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#176746 May 18, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Show me where Christian teachings say the Old Testament is corrupted?
Christianity claims Jeremiah as the New Testament Covenant prophesied in the Old Testament.
So it is obvious that you are ignorant.
You don't read posts very well. Go back to my answer and look at the last sentence of your post that I was replying to and see if you can figure out what I was really saying. If you can't, then that's fine, I'll spell it out for you if need be.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#176747 May 18, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: there is no point, in debating someone who has never even read TheTorah Scroll. and i already gave to you the scripture yesterday, that describes both distinct events.
No you didn't, but that's okay, we're done. I have my answer.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#176748 May 18, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
and i would like to know, how i can give scripture of adam and eve?
when there ain't no woman by that name, mentioned in TheTorah. now matter where you got that delusion from, when it ain't even in TheTorah.
and the last time i checked, any dictionary. the word eve, don't even mean all birth, wide birth, or broad birth. so it ain't even logical, for adam to call sarah faye ann carney that.
and doesn't even explain, how i could confuse the carney gal as a circus performer. like i need, some bearded lady in my life.
when i try to avoid women, who have everything a man could want. like a beard, mustache, and mussels.
What are you reading? The scripture says, "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. Genesis 3:20. That was after eating from the tree. "Eve" means life or living. Prior to this, she was called "Woman" Genesis 2:23.
uhuh

Madrid, Spain

#176749 May 18, 2013
Seeker wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G ospel_in_Islam
"Many Western scholars believe that the Injil was written by Jesus' hand.*
*Historical Dictionary of Prophets in Islam and Judaism, B.M. Wheeler"
lol funniest wiki quote ever

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#176750 May 18, 2013
Seeker wrote:
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You don't read posts very well. Go back to my answer and look at the last sentence of your post that I was replying to and see if you can figure out what I was really saying. If you can't, then that's fine, I'll spell it out for you if need be.
No problem, what you posted from the Quran now forces BMZ to prove the Quran scripture is not corrupted.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#176751 May 18, 2013
Seeker wrote:
Took him away to where? Allah taking him away sure seems like it means that Allah took him to him. So I think the translator did a good job.
Took him to safety. Where else?
Seeker wrote:
to the Gospels, that happened after he was resurrected.
You can't trust the gospels. Do all gospels say that he was lifted into heavens bodily? John left him on the road.
Seeker wrote:
him away means he was granted a high status? They have words for high status in Arabic.


Did I write status? Do you think only unscriptural Greek and English have that word?
Seeker wrote:
, it's highly unlikely that took him away means granted him high status. As I said, there are words in Arabic for high status, but we don't find those words in the verse.
You don't find the words for a high stature in the Arabic verse or some translations? Amazing!
What does "Exalted" mean to you?
Seeker wrote:
actually says both the Jews and Christians believe that the Jews crucified him.
No, it says what I wrote. Jesus will deny the Christians, who die believing the lie that he was killed, on the Day of Resurrection. That is what it means.

He will be a witness AGAINST Christians, who died believing that he was killed.
uhuh

Madrid, Spain

#176752 May 18, 2013
Seeker wrote:
7:157
"Those who follow the unlettered prophet, whom they find maktuban with them in the Taurat and the Injil"
"maktuban" can mean either "written" or "decreed"
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#176753 May 18, 2013
Seeker wrote:
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You don't read posts very well. Go back to my answer and look at the last sentence of your post that I was replying to and see if you can figure out what I was really saying. If you can't, then that's fine, I'll spell it out for you if need be.
Don't waste your time on Shamma. Neither does he read and understand well nor does he write well.
uhuh

Madrid, Spain

#176754 May 18, 2013
interesting that Quran mentions the "unrolled parchment" (52:3) on which the Torah was written (mastur)
but nowhere it mentions any parchment on which the Injil was written
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#176755 May 18, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry Susan, you are making up your own interpretation contrary to Gods teaching of what is meant to die.
After Adam disobeyed God the gates of heaven were closed to man.
The consequence of disobeying God and his commandments is separation from God.
That is the meaning of what God meant when he told Adam you will surely die.
The penalty for sin is being separated from God, meaning a spiritual death, to die.
That is Gods own commandment given to us.
So it is obvious you are on the wrong side of Scripture.
If what you're saying is true then for the approximately 4000 years before Jesus people who died went to hell. I have to disagree. Abel went to heaven when he was murdered and Enoch was taken by God into heaven because he "walked with God". Genesis 5:24. Your belief that Jesus is the only way to heaven is just wrong. Only the righteous who keep the covenant of life go to heaven. You believe only Christians go to heaven and that is a dangerous belief.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#176756 May 18, 2013
susanblange wrote:
You believe only Christians go to heaven and that is a dangerous belief.
It is not dangerous, Susan. It is a ridiculous and absurd belief.

Thanks for the note.

Good night

Since: Apr 11

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#176757 May 18, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>If what you're saying is true then for the approximately 4000 years before Jesus people who died went to hell. I have to disagree. Abel went to heaven when he was murdered and Enoch was taken by God into heaven because he "walked with God". Genesis 5:24. Your belief that Jesus is the only way to heaven is just wrong. Only the righteous who keep the covenant of life go to heaven. You believe only Christians go to heaven and that is a dangerous belief.
You are wrong Susan.
The Old Testament teaches life after death, and that all people went to a place of conscious existence called Sheol. The wicked were there (Psalm 9:17; 31:17; 49:14; Isaiah 5:14), and so were the righteous (Genesis 37:35; Job 14:13; Psalm 6:5; 16:10; 88:3; Isaiah 38:10).

The New Testament equivalent of Sheol is Hades. Prior to Christ’s resurrection, Luke 16:19-31 shows Hades to be divided into two realms: a place of comfort where Lazarus was and a place of torment where the rich man was. The word hell in verse 23 is not “Gehenna”(place of eternal torment) but “Hades”(place of the dead). Lazarus’s place of comfort is elsewhere called Paradise (Luke 23:43). Between these two districts of Hades is “a great gulf fixed”(Luke 16:26).

Jesus is described as having descended into Hades after His death (Acts 2:27, 31; cf. Ephesians 4:9). At the resurrection of Jesus Christ, it seems that the believers in Hades (i.e., the occupants of Paradise) were moved to another location. Now, Paradise is above rather than below (2 Corinthians 12:2-4).

Today, when a believer dies, he is “present with the Lord”(2 Corinthians 5:6-9). When an unbeliever dies, he follows the Old Testament unbelievers to Hades. At the final judgment, Hades will be emptied before the Great White Throne, where its occupants will be judged prior to entering the lake of fire (Revelation 20:13-15).

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#176758 May 18, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Don't waste your time on Shamma. Neither does he read and understand well nor does he write well.
Run Muslim run.
You have run away Muslim.
Where is your proof that the Quran "fully supports the God of the Israelite's and Moses?

Where is your proof that God commands all other religions to be destroyed by the sword of Muhammad and his Muslim followers?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#176759 May 18, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>What are you reading? The scripture says, "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. Genesis 3:20. That was after eating from the tree. "Eve" means life or living. Prior to this, she was called "Woman" Genesis 2:23.
rabbee: i am reading from, TheTorah Scroll in eevreet. i got it, right here. i am not even using, the fraudulent alleged jewish bible or tanach. that has all the suspiciously sounding, christian names and titles in it. somebody took advantage, of your ignorance of TheTorah Scroll.

and not it does not say, that adam called his wife eve. it says that adam, called his wife chaooah because she is the mother of all living. and you know isn't it a funny coincidence, that the word chaooah actually means, all birth, wide birth or broad birth.

how do you get eve from the eevreet letters from chet vav(with the special oo vowel mark) hey? eve can't be a translation, cause it does not mean all birth. it cannot be, a transliteration either. and there is no v sound, with the vav with the special oo vowel mark. and please note that the word chaooah is syllable balanced, with one consonant for every phonetic vowel sound.

and their ain't no chapter and verse numbers in TheTorah Scroll. that is one of first of many things, indicating something is wrong with IT. and you can even explain how to get moses, out of mem sheen. more or less, noah out of noon chet.

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