Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 230652 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#176009 May 13, 2013
Alex 123 WM wrote:
<quoted text>
it does
Salaams
No, it doesn't, fake bro.

Salaams

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#176010 May 13, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Shamma---God takes no consulting from man.
HughBe---Did Frijoles state or imply such a thing?
No.
Just ask if I believed what I posted.
And I replied Absolutely.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#176011 May 13, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't go into commentaries because most of the commentaries are absurd. Commentaries by ignorant and confused fools led the Church to come up with the New Testament.
I already gave you an example that if you behave like an ape or a pig, I will say, "Ok, be despised as apes and pigs! However, you will not turn into a snorting pig or an ape.
There is nothing more anti-Jewish than the gospels and the book of Acts.
When Jesus was calling the Jews 'Brood of vipers and snakes', did the Jews become vipers or snakes or was he addressing a gathering of vipers and snakes.
The maximum anti-Jewish filth is in your own gospels.
I am referring to "Jesus said this and the Jews said that" kind of shit!
LMAO!
No. The Jews remained human beings.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#176012 May 13, 2013
do not give me with your, purely mental contrivances. of you or muhammeds, not being here in TheTorah.

when i only accept proof from G-D, about us all here in TheTorah.

G-D already gave to you all, the history of this world against HIM for seven days. and still you all, make up your own alleged as legal history without or against HIM.

your making all the same mistakes as the last two previous Torot times. is not going to convice G-D to change any of it. making all the same mistakes, is not going to get any of us TheGanEden Story ending. your lying, only enables more to lie evenn more.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#176013 May 13, 2013
christian lies, jewish lies, agnostic lies, athiest lies, and muslem lies, shall never be in agreement of peace. muslems, christians, and jews, are not even at peace with themselves against G-D. the only things, lying not true to G-D does. is create hell and death differences, between groups of liars. because none of you, are really ONE Flesh with G-D. do not be prould of your being different, than G-D is HOLY. and i have been told, by the totally undevine. that i have no divinity, according their their own mental image in undevine magic.
Round And Round It Goes

Hurricane, WV

#176014 May 13, 2013
Q. How do you know that Mohammad is a true prophet?
A. It says so in the Qur'an.
Q. How do you know that the Qur'an is true?
A. Mohammad said it is.
Q. Where did Mohammad say that the Qur'an is true?
A. In the Qur'an.
Q. What does this prove?
A. It proves that you're a blaspheming infidel.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#176015 May 13, 2013
there is got to be, somthing wrong. when even all the birds of the same feather, are not all squawking together.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#176016 May 13, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
there is got to be, somthing wrong. when even all the birds of the same feather, are not all squawking together.
May be busy, Rabbee. Buford just squawked.

Salaams
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#176017 May 13, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
God already decided for Himself.
What man must do to enter in Gods Kingdom.
Read this carefully MUQ.
Because its your choice to go to heaven or hell.
And up till now MUQ you have chosen to go to hell.
God is Almighty, ruler and judge of all things.
God gave His command and that command must be obeyed.
God put man in the garden to tend to it.
..
We can discuss all this, but what about your proof that God spoke with Abraham and Moses?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#176018 May 13, 2013
Proofs that Gospel of Barnabas is 15th Century forgery- Part-4

Bryant- 21

The Italian poet Dante lived about the time of the composition of the Gospel of Barnabas (1265-1321) and it is interesting to notice a number of quotations from Dante's works in the Gospel of Barnabas There are many and they can hardly be regarded as coincidences. The Gospel of Barnabas quotes Jesus as saying to Peter: "Know ye therefore, that hell is one, yet hath seven centres one below another. Hence, even as sin is of seven kinds, for as seven gates of hell has Satan generated it: So are seven punishments therein." (Chapter 135a).

This is exactly what Dante says in Cantos V, VI, etc. of his "Inferno".…These few indications are sufficient evidence that the writer of the Gospel of Barnabas must have been acquainted with the writings of Dante and consequently must have I lived after Dante, or else been a contemporary of his.

MUQ:

1. This is another of the strange accusation that has been manufactured in your brain.

2. Why is it not possible for Dante to have taken this idea from GOB and used it in his works?

3, How are you SURE that GOB copied it form Dante and not Vice Versa?

4. Then some one adding some notes and explanation while translating or copying cannot be ruled out.

5. My point is that, have you used the same standard to judge other OT and NT books also? Why use one standard for GOB and another for other Gospels and Biblical books?

6. If you use same standards for all books, all of them would turn out to be forgeries!!

7. Do you know what is a forgery? It does not mean writing a new document, it also means unauthorized editing , adding or removing some words etc.

Bryant- 22

“In Chapter 145 of the Gospel of Barnabas Pharisees date back as far as the time of Elijah and there were supposed to have been 17,000. In fact, history first knows about Pharisees seven centuries later, in the period between 135-104 B.C.

MUQ:

1. How does it proves that GOB is 15th century forgery?

Bryant- 23

“In Chapter 82 mention is made of the "Years of the Jubilee, which now cometh every 100 years." The Year of Jubilee, according to the Old Testament, was every 50th year (after seven times seven years). The origin of this faulty information is as follows: In the year A.D. 1300 Pope Boniface the VIII instituted the Jubilee as a centenary event. Owing to its financial success, however, Pope Clement VI reversed Boniface's decision and celebrated the next Jubilee in 1350. This was thus the only time that the Year of Jubilee was intended as a centenary occasion - it never was in practice.(Gairdner, page 19).“

MUQ:

1. This is the “most important proof” which you have mentioned for accusing GOB to be a 15th Century forgery!!

2. Is it not possible that some one while editing this book had added that explanatory note? There are numerous such examples of editing, explanatory notes in almost all books of OT and NT.

3. If I start giving examples, it will become a long list, not suitable for this thread.

4. If you want we can have a separate discussion on each types of mistakes and interpolations in OT and NT books.
bmzipperhead

Hurricane, WV

#176019 May 13, 2013
I'm a genius! I mean, it isn't just that all of my ass-kissing employees say that I am. I have other, better PROOF! I mean, it says so in the Qur'aan.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#176020 May 13, 2013
bmzipperhead wrote:
I'm a genius! I mean, it isn't just that all of my ass-kissing employees say that I am. I have other, better PROOF! I mean, it says so in the Qur'aan.
I like this frequent change of nick. Very nice.

The proof is in the pudding, Buford. You can't find it in the NTpudding.

No prophet or messenger of God came with a letter of appointment. They managed to convince people with the message given by God and a few of them worked wonders, only when God's power was working behind them.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#176021 May 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
We can discuss all this, but what about your proof that God spoke with Abraham and Moses?
Shamma will never answer. Good approach, MUQ

Salaams
BMZ
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#176022 May 13, 2013
@ Shamma

Please read this and don't miss it:

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

Thanks
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#176023 May 13, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
May be busy, Rabbee. Buford just squawked.
Salaams
rabbee: the danger of paying too much attention, to that which is not true to G-D. squaking at the birds of a different feather. shall only help, keep you away from what is true to G-D.
PRAKASH MISHRA

Ashburn, VA

#176024 May 13, 2013
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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#176025 May 14, 2013
Round wrote:
Q. How do you know that Mohammad is a true prophet?

A. It says so in the Quran.

Q. How do you know that the Quran is true?

A. Mohammad said it is.

Q. Where did Mohammad say that the Quran is true?

A. In the Quran.

Q. What does this prove?

A. It proves that you're a blaspheming infidel.
Ans.

It is not good to ask the Question and then answer yourself and then draw your own conclusion.

It is "etiquette" to ask question and then wait for answer and then comment if something is not clear.

So I will answer in short your questions and wait for your queries.

Q1. How do you know that Mohammad is a true prophet?

A. Because he fulfills "all the criterion" that are required in a True Prophet of God..

Q2. How do you know that the Quran is true?

A. Because Quran challenges whole human kind to produce a book like it, or at least 10 chapter like it and even one chapter like it.

And past 1400 years, no one is able to do any of these things.

And the info present in Quran, was not possible for any human to know 1400 years back, so its source if not any human, but the Creator of this Universe.

Q3. Where did Mohammad say that the Quran is true?

A. This is spurious question in light of the answer given there.

Q4. What does this prove?

A. It proves that our prophet is a True Prophet of God and Quran is a Revelation from Lord, Master and Creator of this Universe.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#176026 May 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Shamma will never answer. Good approach, MUQ
Salaams
BMZ
Shamma did the same thing when made a claim that Bible is Word of God and Quran is not.

I asked for proof that Bible is Word of God and there was no reply...just talking of this and that and no proofs.

These people do not know the difference between a Claim and a Proof.

I think it has to do with their belief in Trinity. When some one starts believing in some thing so weird and so illogical and so unreasonable as Trinity, he looses all sense of claims and proofs and what they mean etc.

Salaam

MUQ

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#176027 May 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Proofs that Gospel of Barnabas is 15th Century forgery- Part-4
Bryant- 21
The Italian poet Dante lived about the time of the composition of the Gospel of Barnabas (1265-1321) and it is interesting to notice a number of quotations from Dante's works in the Gospel of Barnabas There are many and they can hardly be regarded as coincidences. The Gospel of Barnabas quotes Jesus as saying to Peter: "Know ye therefore, that hell is one, yet hath seven centres one below another. Hence, even as sin is of seven kinds, for as seven gates of hell has Satan generated it: So are seven punishments therein." (Chapter 135a).
This is exactly what Dante says in Cantos V, VI, etc. of his "Inferno".…These few indications are sufficient evidence that the writer of the Gospel of Barnabas must have been acquainted with the writings of Dante and consequently must have I lived after Dante, or else been a contemporary of his.
Hello MUQ,

Here some food for thought, you need. What you have given is just a little part of the similarity between Dante's work and GOB, although there are things that Dante have invented about Hell and curiosly GOB reported as they are truth. So now I'll give a larger part of it.

"The Italian poet Dante lived about the time of the composition of the G.o.B.(1265-1321) and it is interesting to notice a number of quotations from Dante's works in the G.o.B. There are many and they can hardly be regarded as coincidences. The G.o.B. quotes Jesus as saying to Peter: "Know ye therefore, that hell is one, yet hath seven centres one below another. Hence, even as sin is of seven kinds, for as seven gates of hell has Satan generated it: So are seven punishments therein." (Chapter 135a). This is exactly what Dante says in Cantos V, VI, etc. of his "Inferno". Again "Barnabas" says that God, having created the human senses, condemned them "to hell and to intolerable snow and ice" (Chapter 106, which corresponds with Cantos XXVIII and III of the "Inferno"). The description of human sins and their returning at the end like a river to Satan, who is their source, is another indirect quotation from Dante's description of the rivers of hell. Similarly, the passages about the believers going to hell, not to be tortured, but to see the unbelievers in their torments, recalls to mind Dante's picture of the same. The differentiation between degrees of glory, and the absence of all feuds and jealousies in heaven, are taken entirely from Dante's "Paradise", Canto III. But still stronger evidence that "Barnabas" quotes directly or indirectly from Dante is his description of the "Geography of Heaven". There "Barnabas" agrees with Dante and contradicts even the Qur'an itself. The Qur'an (Sura 2:29) says that the heavens are seven in number, while "Barnabas" gives the number as nine (Chapter 178a)(Gairdner, pages 19-21). These few indications are sufficient evidence that the writer of the G.o.B. must have been acquainted with the writings of Dante and consequently must have I lived after Dante, or else been a contemporary of his."
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-judas-gospel-...

The difference between what I reported compared with yours is that I gave the entire version of it showing exactly who copied from who, while your version only reports a similarity followed by three dots, that hide all the rest, and gives the conclusion, then arrive you to try to tell us that it could be that Dante copied from GOB.

Good job at deceiving yourself.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#176028 May 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
A. Because he fulfills "all the criterion" that are required in a True Prophet of God..
Can you tell me WHO, WHERE and WHEN set all the criterion from which we can establish who is the true prophet of god and who is not?
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>A. Because Quran challenges whole human kind to produce a book like it, or at least 10 chapter like it and even one chapter like it.
And past 1400 years, no one is able to do any of these things.
And the info present in Quran, was not possible for any human to know 1400 years back, so its source if not any human, but the Creator of this Universe.
You know, according to any mon his or her son is the most beautiful son ever born in this world. No matter which son you show to them, they won't never accept another as more beautiful of their own son. You Muslims are the same, no matter that out there, there are books better off than Quran you still BELIEVE Quran is the best book ever.

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